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Anonymous wrote:How come people aren't talking more about this...looks like it was 6pm. Is this normal? I am often in that area with my kids at that time.

Because then people will have to realize that voting for the council and county exec who are allowing this to happen was the wrong thing and they would never admit that.

The county council has nothing to do with this. You sound insane.

DP

Are you saying that local politicians have no influence over crime? I disagree. Crime can increase or decrease as a direct result of public policies that are out in place by our local politicians.

You do truly get what you vote for.

If you look at the data on this it’s largely untrue. Policies matter but in general crime goes up or down because of bigger factors. County councils don’t cause huge policy changes that can affect crime. I do think unofficial police strikes can, but that’s not policy.

Moral in the police is low, and they are having trouble recruiting. That is largely due to council policies of "defund the police", or "police are bad".

Then they’re crybabies and we needed to reform the force anyway.

They aren't. They don't want to proactively engage because they have no support from politicians, even when the police do exactly the right thing. It's not worth being vilified and having your family targeted by the crazy activists when you get zero support from county leadership. And without proactive policing, crime does increase. There are decades of studies backing that up.

While there is always room for improvement in every police department, there is no identified need for reform in MCPD. It is a CALEA accredited agency -- the polar opposite of someone under a consent decree like Baltimore. That's who needs reform.

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Anonymous wrote:How come people aren't talking more about this...looks like it was 6pm. Is this normal? I am often in that area with my kids at that time.

Time to move to Florida.

People robbed at gun point outside Apple Store in Miami
https://www.google.com/amp/s/wsvn.com/news/local/miami-dade/couple-robbed-at-gunpoint-behind-lincoln-road-apple-store/amp/

Smash and grab at Apple Store in Jacksonville
https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/crime/2017/05/17/jacksonville-s-apple-store-victim-pricey-smash-and-grab-burglary/15755384007/

$500K iPhone theft ring based out of Ft Lauderdale mall
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/miami/news/police-bust-500k-iphone-theft-ring-operating-in-mall-apple-store/

Thieves go where the valuables are.

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Anonymous wrote:How come people aren't talking more about this...looks like it was 6pm. Is this normal? I am often in that area with my kids at that time.

Because then people will have to realize that voting for the council and county exec who are allowing this to happen was the wrong thing and they would never admit that.

The county council has nothing to do with this. You sound insane.

The CE and Council cut 25 police officer positions just for sh*ts and giggles. There was no reason to do so. But "defund the police" was all the rage. Jawando in particular thinks a smaller leaner police force is what we need, because he has absolutely no clue how policing works. The Council has enacted something like 20 different police reform requirements that weren't really needed, which has completely paralyzed the department as they try to implement them with inadequate funding and staffing. And that leaves exactly zero time to be innovative or forward thinking like they used to be. And surrounding jurisdictions are passing us by with much better, more efficient crime control methods.

Look, even DC's crime is down overall. Ours is not.
https://mpdc.dc.gov/node/197622

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But the criminals won’t get punished anyway, so who cares. Why would Apple bother going through all that.

My neighbor works for Costco. They rarely go after these kinds of thefts.

I guess it's not the theft that really worries me, but the gun. How can we be harder on gun usage?

More cops on the streets. They've already recovered a record number this year.

And when they are caught, clear and immediate consequences. Not ROR and waiting a year or more for a trial that will likely be nolle prossed.

More gun safety laws don't work. We are strict as it is, and the violence we are talking about here is committed with illegal guns.

Anonymous wrote:How come people aren't talking more about this...looks like it was 6pm. Is this normal? I am often in that area with my kids at that time.

There was a shooting with injury at the Flagship Carwash up on Hungerford yesterday around 6pm. Then another shooting at Pike and Rose about 9pm yesterday.

If you look at Data Montgomery, there have been 20 shootings in October alone.

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Anonymous wrote:How come people aren't talking more about this...looks like it was 6pm. Is this normal? I am often in that area with my kids at that time.

Because then people will have to realize that voting for the council and county exec who are allowing this to happen was the wrong thing and they would never admit that.

The county council has nothing to do with this. You sound insane.

DP

Are you saying that local politicians have no influence over crime? I disagree. Crime can increase or decrease as a direct result of public policies that are out in place by our local politicians.

You do truly get what you vote for.

If you look at the data on this it’s largely untrue. Policies matter but in general crime goes up or down because of bigger factors. County councils don’t cause huge policy changes that can affect crime. I do think unofficial police strikes can, but that’s not policy.

Moral in the police is low, and they are having trouble recruiting. That is largely due to council policies of "defund the police", or "police are bad".

Then they’re crybabies and we needed to reform the force anyway.

ok, will you be the first to volunteer? If you get robbed, will you be calling the "crybabies" police, or the progressive county council?

How would you like to work for an organization where another organization that directly impacts your funding hates you?

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Anonymous wrote:How come people aren't talking more about this...looks like it was 6pm. Is this normal? I am often in that area with my kids at that time.

Because then people will have to realize that voting for the council and county exec who are allowing this to happen was the wrong thing and they would never admit that.

The county council has nothing to do with this. You sound insane.

DP

Are you saying that local politicians have no influence over crime? I disagree. Crime can increase or decrease as a direct result of public policies that are out in place by our local politicians.

You do truly get what you vote for.

If you look at the data on this it’s largely untrue. Policies matter but in general crime goes up or down because of bigger factors. County councils don’t cause huge policy changes that can affect crime. I do think unofficial police strikes can, but that’s not policy.

Moral in the police is low, and they are having trouble recruiting. That is largely due to council policies of "defund the police", or "police are bad".

Cops don't stop crime they only respond to it.

yes , and when criminals know that there aren't many cops out there, and that the laws are soft on crime, it emboldens them. Not rocket science.

Anonymous wrote:I honestly think more kids should be taken away from their parents and raised in foster care. Or parents should be jailed/fined for bad parenting. Most of these criminals are teens.

No one wants these kids. Do you think there are people lining up to be foster parents for juvenile delinquents? Are you one?

Anonymous wrote:If everyone is alive aren’t we moving in the right direction?

Maybe if the criminals are shot they would be deterred?

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Anonymous wrote:How come people aren't talking more about this...looks like it was 6pm. Is this normal? I am often in that area with my kids at that time.

Because then people will have to realize that voting for the council and county exec who are allowing this to happen was the wrong thing and they would never admit that.

The county council has nothing to do with this. You sound insane.

DP

Are you saying that local politicians have no influence over crime? I disagree. Crime can increase or decrease as a direct result of public policies that are out in place by our local politicians.

You do truly get what you vote for.

If you look at the data on this it’s largely untrue. Policies matter but in general crime goes up or down because of bigger factors. County councils don’t cause huge policy changes that can affect crime. I do think unofficial police strikes can, but that’s not policy.

Moral in the police is low, and they are having trouble recruiting. That is largely due to council policies of "defund the police", or "police are bad".

The last police academy class had 12 people. more than twice that retired or left in the 6 months leading up to that class starting. they can't fill the classes. the liability of being a police officer is not worth it and many left to join the fire department and many retired but many also left for other jurisdictions.

I honestly think more kids should be taken away from their parents and raised in foster care. Or parents should be jailed/fined for bad parenting. Most of these criminals are teens.

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Anonymous wrote:How come people aren't talking more about this...looks like it was 6pm. Is this normal? I am often in that area with my kids at that time.

Because then people will have to realize that voting for the council and county exec who are allowing this to happen was the wrong thing and they would never admit that.

The county council has nothing to do with this. You sound insane.

Really? who approves the police budget? who approves the police chief? who approves and created the new police advisory commission? the transparency legislation?

Cal me insane but at least i know what I am talking about.

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Anonymous wrote:How come people aren't talking more about this...looks like it was 6pm. Is this normal? I am often in that area with my kids at that time.

Because then people will have to realize that voting for the council and county exec who are allowing this to happen was the wrong thing and they would never admit that.

The county council has nothing to do with this. You sound insane.

DP

Are you saying that local politicians have no influence over crime? I disagree. Crime can increase or decrease as a direct result of public policies that are out in place by our local politicians.

You do truly get what you vote for.

People who have food, housing and opportunity do not commit crime. When you have those things there is less crime. Yes I am saying our council has not negatively affected these things beyond what has happened with a global pandemic and inflations caused by corporate greed.

Criminals in jail also tend to not commit armed robbery

But the criminals won’t get punished anyway, so who cares. Why would Apple bother going through all that.

My neighbor works for Costco. They rarely go after these kinds of thefts.

I guess it's not the theft that really worries me, but the gun. How can we be harder on gun usage?

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Anonymous wrote:How come people aren't talking more about this...looks like it was 6pm. Is this normal? I am often in that area with my kids at that time.

Because then people will have to realize that voting for the council and county exec who are allowing this to happen was the wrong thing and they would never admit that.

The county council has nothing to do with this. You sound insane.

DP

Are you saying that local politicians have no influence over crime? I disagree. Crime can increase or decrease as a direct result of public policies that are out in place by our local politicians.

You do truly get what you vote for.

People who have food, housing and opportunity do not commit crime. When you have those things there is less crime. Yes I am saying our council has not negatively affected these things beyond what has happened with a global pandemic and inflations caused by corporate greed.

lol this is a good one, so give them jobs and they wont commit crimes? how about give them prison