Anonymous
10/20/2022 22:21
Subject: Americans using their ancestry to gain European citizenship - 40% of Americans eligible
Spouse did it for German citizenship for himself and our kids, via a Jewish grandparent (rest of the family killed in the Holocaust). He had to collect a bunch of paperwork but it was all doable. Took about 2 years from start to finish.
Anonymous
10/20/2022 22:19
Subject: Americans using their ancestry to gain European citizenship - 40% of Americans eligible
Anonymous wrote:I’m eligible for Italy. We started collecting all the paperwork but paused after we hit a snag in getting my ancestor’s Italian birth certificate. Original records were apparently lost in a fire and don’t know if I can still get it without that.
Before you hit the snag, how hard was it to do? I’m realizing I need to start the process myself. I’m very interested in this and my elderly parents were going to start gathering documents as a hobby but never got around to it. My great grandparents came here from Italy and never became American citizens. I need to start researching how to find records.
Anonymous
10/20/2022 22:18
Subject: Americans using their ancestry to gain European citizenship - 40% of Americans eligible
Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t transfer to spouses
It does for Italy. Wife and kids (through her bloodlines) were eligible, and I got to hitch a ride.
Anonymous
10/20/2022 22:18
Subject: Americans using their ancestry to gain European citizenship - 40% of Americans eligible
Anonymous wrote:My parents and siblings were born in Croatia.i never applied for citizenship. What would yhe benefit be?
an eu member state passport.
there's a lot of Brazilians who have bought Portuguese citizenship- enough that there has been a backlash but they need he money and the population growth as does Spain. the ladino thing is separate from having Spanish ancestors.
Anonymous
10/20/2022 22:15
Subject: Americans using their ancestry to gain European citizenship - 40% of Americans eligible
Anonymous wrote:My parents and siblings were born in Croatia.i never applied for citizenship. What would yhe benefit be?
Benefit would be EU passport. Can live and work in EU, kids attend some EU universities for low cost. Downside could be taxes.
Anonymous
10/20/2022 22:14
Subject: Americans using their ancestry to gain European citizenship - 40% of Americans eligible
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Croatia has no limit on the number of generations removed as long as you can document lineage (including any transition from Croatian to Americanized spelling). They also recently got rid of their Croatian language requirement as well. EU country!
Are there any guidelines on for people who are 1/2 or 1/4 Croatian, for example? How watered down can you be?
It looks like you can be pretty watered down- great-grandparents okay
Anonymous
10/20/2022 22:10
Subject: Americans using their ancestry to gain European citizenship - 40% of Americans eligible
My parents and siblings were born in Croatia.i never applied for citizenship. What would yhe benefit be?
Anonymous
10/20/2022 22:08
Subject: Americans using their ancestry to gain European citizenship - 40% of Americans eligible
Anonymous wrote:Croatia has no limit on the number of generations removed as long as you can document lineage (including any transition from Croatian to Americanized spelling). They also recently got rid of their Croatian language requirement as well. EU country!
Are there any guidelines on for people who are 1/2 or 1/4 Croatian, for example? How watered down can you be?
Anonymous
10/20/2022 22:06
Subject: Americans using their ancestry to gain European citizenship - 40% of Americans eligible
My ancestors all came over pre 1800 so I’m foreclosed. Oh well.
Anonymous
10/20/2022 22:03
Subject: Americans using their ancestry to gain European citizenship - 40% of Americans eligible
Anonymous wrote:I’m eligible for Italy. We started collecting all the paperwork but paused after we hit a snag in getting my ancestor’s Italian birth certificate. Original records were apparently lost in a fire and don’t know if I can still get it without that.
I have already had my appt with my consulate and am in the 2 year wait. Do you read the facebook group for dual citizenship? It is so helpful. Do you know if the secondary copy of the record book was also lost? I had a lost MC in my line, but I found the microfilm of the secondary copy at the courthouse (the mormons digitized a lot of these books on familysearch.org) and present those unofficial records with the letters from my commune about the destroyed records and they accepted this. Good luck!
Anonymous
10/20/2022 21:32
Subject: Re:Americans using their ancestry to gain European citizenship - 40% of Americans eligible
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Around 2015 Spain extended citizenship to Sephardic Jews as a 'reparations' gesture (in between quotes because I doubt its sincerity, especially as it was conceived during an economic crisis), then started denying the majority even with great documentation. Guess they decided they didn't want that many poor Latin Americans and others living in Spain.
That has nothing to do with “poor Latin Americans,” who are entitled to Spanish citizenship by descent if their family heritage is Spanish, if the parents, or grandparents were Spanish.
This is outlined in Article 11 of the Spanish Constitution, which refers to Spanish nationality and the provisions which exist on applying through jus sanguinis.
You can obtain Spanish citizenship by descent if:
Your mother or father is a Spanish national
Both your parents were born in Spain
You were adopted by Spanish a national prior to your 18th birthday
You have Spanish grandparents
Yeah, you have no idea what you're talking about. Most Latin Americans do not have Spanish parents or grandparents. They've been independent nations for over 200 years now. And there are articles talking about the number of eligible Venezuelans seeking Spanish citizenship based on Sephardic surnames and lineage who were denied, because they weren't the rich people Spain was looking to attract. But don't read anything about the topic and make yourself look like a fool.
Anonymous
10/20/2022 21:31
Subject: Re:Americans using their ancestry to gain European citizenship - 40% of Americans eligible
lol I guarantee Belarus and Russia aren't going to give Jews citizenship.
Anonymous
10/20/2022 21:31
Subject: Americans using their ancestry to gain European citizenship - 40% of Americans eligible
We just started the process for Slovakia. My grandmother was born in Slovakia, and I and my children all qualify. Slovakia passed the law less than a year ago.
Anonymous
10/20/2022 21:24
Subject: Re:Americans using their ancestry to gain European citizenship - 40% of Americans eligible
Anonymous wrote:Around 2015 Spain extended citizenship to Sephardic Jews as a 'reparations' gesture (in between quotes because I doubt its sincerity, especially as it was conceived during an economic crisis), then started denying the majority even with great documentation. Guess they decided they didn't want that many poor Latin Americans and others living in Spain.
That has nothing to do with “poor Latin Americans,” who are entitled to Spanish citizenship by descent if their family heritage is Spanish, if the parents, or grandparents were Spanish.
This is outlined in Article 11 of the Spanish Constitution, which refers to Spanish nationality and the provisions which exist on applying through jus sanguinis.
You can obtain Spanish citizenship by descent if:
Your mother or father is a Spanish national
Both your parents were born in Spain
You were adopted by Spanish a national prior to your 18th birthday
You have Spanish grandparents
Anonymous
10/20/2022 21:18
Subject: Americans using their ancestry to gain European citizenship - 40% of Americans eligible
I’m eligible for Italy. We started collecting all the paperwork but paused after we hit a snag in getting my ancestor’s Italian birth certificate. Original records were apparently lost in a fire and don’t know if I can still get it without that.