Anonymous
Post 10/10/2022 17:55     Subject: Only 5% of women suffer from a Physiologically Insufficient Milk Supply — NIH
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have had physical low milk supply with both my babies and made myself crazy trying to up my supply. I worked so hard and it didn’t fix me. So much of the messaging about milk supply feels a bit like gaslighting to me. I already felt inadequate and stuff like this didn’t help.


Narrator: she doesn't actually know what this term means.


saying “it’s all in your head sweetie - your body will make what the baby needs!” is gaslighting.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2022 17:18     Subject: Re:Only 5% of women suffer from a Physiologically Insufficient Milk Supply — NIH
Anonymous wrote:I don't believe it. A lot of moms are obese and obesity is a leading cause of milk production problems.


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Anonymous
Post 10/10/2022 15:04     Subject: Re:Only 5% of women suffer from a Physiologically Insufficient Milk Supply — NIH
I don't believe it. A lot of moms are obese and obesity is a leading cause of milk production problems.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2022 15:01     Subject: Only 5% of women suffer from a Physiologically Insufficient Milk Supply — NIH
Anonymous wrote:“Only” 5%, well that’s still millions and millions of newborns across the world isn’t it? And that doesn’t include BABIES who have difficulty nursing even when mom is able to make plenty of milk, so those moms turn to pumping which isn’t as efficient generally and supply goes down. Anyway, can’t believe it’s 2022 and women are still getting pissy about how other moms/parents choose to feed their babies.


This! My son had difficulty sucking. He had trouble sucking from a straw as well. He ended up needing speech therapy. I am still so mad I was completely dissuaded from using ANY formula. I cried and was so depressed the first four months until I finally started supplementing with formula. My son then started gaining weight and going up the growth curve from less than 5% on the growth curve for weight.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2022 14:54     Subject: Re:Only 5% of women suffer from a Physiologically Insufficient Milk Supply — NIH
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So is the purpose of this post just to make women who might already be struggling to breastfeed feel worse? “Oh, this one study suggests that your struggles to feed your child might all be your fault because they’re in your head.”


+1 how about women who are slow to let down or have nipples that make latching difficult/painful. Sure, if they pumped for an hour they may provide sufficient milk for their child, but at what physical and psychological cost.



As someone who had breastfeeding problems about 2 months in I’m supremely grateful for this kind of research. It allowed me to work with my doctor’s and LC’s to actually pinpoint what was going on and fix it. You really have to despise women to oppose women-focused medical research.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2022 14:48     Subject: Re:Only 5% of women suffer from a Physiologically Insufficient Milk Supply — NIH
Anonymous wrote:So is the purpose of this post just to make women who might already be struggling to breastfeed feel worse? “Oh, this one study suggests that your struggles to feed your child might all be your fault because they’re in your head.”


+1 how about women who are slow to let down or have nipples that make latching difficult/painful. Sure, if they pumped for an hour they may provide sufficient milk for their child, but at what physical and psychological cost.

Anonymous
Post 10/10/2022 14:48     Subject: Re:Only 5% of women suffer from a Physiologically Insufficient Milk Supply — NIH
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I find it odd that many women here apparently feel that saying problems like breastfeeding can by psychological is a “diss.” It’s not. Breastfeeding is a HUGELY psychological phenomenon that only occurs in a woman’s body when the amygdala functions appropriately. Even just “thinking” about breastfeeding being hard can trigger cortisol levels that interfere with the oxytocin in your brain. It is psychological. Saying that it is doesn’t mean it’s not “real” - but it’s often not a physical issue like someone who broke both legs and can’t walk. Very very different functions.


But what you are describing as a “psychological” phenomenon is actually a *physical* process, i.e., cortisol levels impacting milk production. That’s physical. It’s at a different physical level than broken bones, molecular instead of mechanical, but physical nonetheless. It’s hard to argue otherwise.


No. It’s not hard to argue if you took 9th grade science class. If you break out in hives every time you give a work presentation you work on managing stress and anxiety. A prescription for retinoid cream will do nothing. Just because there’s a physical reaction (lack of milk) doesn’t mean the root of the problem is physical.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2022 14:42     Subject: Only 5% of women suffer from a Physiologically Insufficient Milk Supply — NIH
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have had physical low milk supply with both my babies and made myself crazy trying to up my supply. I worked so hard and it didn’t fix me. So much of the messaging about milk supply feels a bit like gaslighting to me. I already felt inadequate and stuff like this didn’t help.


Narrator: she doesn't actually know what this term means.


Nope, that was my experience and is indeed the correct word.


Yes, the NIH’s goal in researching and publishing studies is only to manipulate you and make you crazy. Just you! So crazy right. Science is only science as long as it doesn’t make you feel bad.

Lady, you live in conspiracy crazy town.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2022 14:27     Subject: Only 5% of women suffer from a Physiologically Insufficient Milk Supply — NIH
There’s nothing wrong with acknowledging the role of stress, anxiety and depression in hampering a bountiful milk supply IF the solutions proposed are not for mom to TRY HARDER.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2022 12:46     Subject: Only 5% of women suffer from a Physiologically Insufficient Milk Supply — NIH
Anonymous wrote:I absolutely believe this. The amount of women that do not get sufficient pre or post natal nursing prep/support is ASTOUNDING.

I know so many women that thought they'd just give birth, pop baby on the breast, and nurse. It is so much more than that. The simple facts that are not common knowledge is shocking- supply/demand, that milk comes from multiple ducts, the amount of milk a newborn needs, etc.

This is absolutely not a knock at moms- it's a broken system.



Are these the same women who get all of their labor and deliver information from "knocked up?"

There is no lack of support or information if you are looking for it, especially if you live in dc or deliver in a DC hospital. There is information and resources, literally raining down on you from every direction- your doctors, the women around you, at the hospital, in the media, on Instagram, you name it. . I feel like you have to be willfully obtuse or in a coma not to get the message.





Anonymous
Post 10/10/2022 12:20     Subject: Only 5% of women suffer from a Physiologically Insufficient Milk Supply — NIH
“Only” 5%, well that’s still millions and millions of newborns across the world isn’t it? And that doesn’t include BABIES who have difficulty nursing even when mom is able to make plenty of milk, so those moms turn to pumping which isn’t as efficient generally and supply goes down. Anyway, can’t believe it’s 2022 and women are still getting pissy about how other moms/parents choose to feed their babies.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2022 12:15     Subject: Re:Only 5% of women suffer from a Physiologically Insufficient Milk Supply — NIH
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is there a link to this “study”.

I guess mine was psychological. My dad died the day before my son was born and my boobs did not produce milk. Le leche was on it right away. Nothing. I kind of feel it’s disingenuous to say it wasn’t physiological.


Why did you put study in quotes?


NP . I’m assuming because OP didn’t bother to link to it so PP is suggesting OP is just making it up.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2022 11:50     Subject: Re:Only 5% of women suffer from a Physiologically Insufficient Milk Supply — NIH
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interesting
Well, I’m part of the 5%. Only ever transferred one ounce during weighted feeds and only ever pumped one ounce.


Same. One ounce when I was lucky…


Me too. It just did not work and I wish someone had told me that sooner.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2022 11:36     Subject: Re:Only 5% of women suffer from a Physiologically Insufficient Milk Supply — NIH
Anonymous wrote:Interesting
Well, I’m part of the 5%. Only ever transferred one ounce during weighted feeds and only ever pumped one ounce.


Same. One ounce when I was lucky…
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2022 11:26     Subject: Only 5% of women suffer from a Physiologically Insufficient Milk Supply — NIH
I absolutely believe this. The amount of women that do not get sufficient pre or post natal nursing prep/support is ASTOUNDING.

I know so many women that thought they'd just give birth, pop baby on the breast, and nurse. It is so much more than that. The simple facts that are not common knowledge is shocking- supply/demand, that milk comes from multiple ducts, the amount of milk a newborn needs, etc.

This is absolutely not a knock at moms- it's a broken system.