Anonymous
Post 09/30/2022 06:15     Subject: Does it kind of suck to be an out of state student?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is OP. For those saying kids should want to get out of their own bubble, that’s exactly why my kid wants to go to a flagship in another state BUT we keep hearing that what ends up happening, unfortunately, is that people end up sorting by their home regions anyway.

We’ve heard Wisconsin is like this too where there are the NY and northeast dorms and mini social scenes. Some of the OOS kids probably want to mix it up with more students from Wisconsin but it’s more difficult than you’d think.


Wisconsin is definitely like this, but, as a Wisconsinite, it's not the locals making it difficult. The "coastie" kids come from NY/NJ/DC, live in their own private dorms because the public ones aren't good enough for them, and therefore self-segregate. There's also the issue that they have a lot more money than the Wisconsin kids -- so they wear better clothes, have nice cars, and just are in a completely different socioeconomic strata than your average in-state kid. They only hang out with themselves, join their own frats/sororities, go to separate bars than others, and generally look down at the "Sconnie" kids with disdain. So yes, there was, at least when I was in college there 12+ years ago, a big divide--- maybe it's changed since then.

That said, I did make friends with a few East and West Coast kids -- but they were the ones who lived in the university dorms like the rest of us. They still had loads more money than most Wisconsin kids, but personality-wise, they were very different from the other OOS kids.

This sounds kind of awful. I wonder if MI is the same way, as the difference between in-state and OOS tuition alone is like $40K.
Anonymous
Post 09/30/2022 05:39     Subject: Does it kind of suck to be an out of state student?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is OP. For those saying kids should want to get out of their own bubble, that’s exactly why my kid wants to go to a flagship in another state BUT we keep hearing that what ends up happening, unfortunately, is that people end up sorting by their home regions anyway.

We’ve heard Wisconsin is like this too where there are the NY and northeast dorms and mini social scenes. Some of the OOS kids probably want to mix it up with more students from Wisconsin but it’s more difficult than you’d think.


Wisconsin is definitely like this, but, as a Wisconsinite, it's not the locals making it difficult. The "coastie" kids come from NY/NJ/DC, live in their own private dorms because the public ones aren't good enough for them, and therefore self-segregate. There's also the issue that they have a lot more money than the Wisconsin kids -- so they wear better clothes, have nice cars, and just are in a completely different socioeconomic strata than your average in-state kid. They only hang out with themselves, join their own frats/sororities, go to separate bars than others, and generally look down at the "Sconnie" kids with disdain. So yes, there was, at least when I was in college there 12+ years ago, a big divide--- maybe it's changed since then.

That said, I did make friends with a few East and West Coast kids -- but they were the ones who lived in the university dorms like the rest of us. They still had loads more money than most Wisconsin kids, but personality-wise, they were very different from the other OOS kids.


This is OP. Thanks for sharing this. I had not meant to imply it was the in-state kids’ fault! This division is exactly what my DC wants to avoid. It would be great to know what other schools are like this.
Anonymous
Post 09/30/2022 05:30     Subject: Does it kind of suck to be an out of state student?
I mean….Texas.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2022 23:54     Subject: Does it kind of suck to be an out of state student?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Texas was very Texas-centric. Really tough for my out of state niece to fit in and find a group.


I’ve heard this too. You kind of have to just give in to country music, belt buckles and boots.

(Not a state school but I wonder how much Rice is like this.)


I highly doubt Rice is like this. I went to SMU and NEVER wore boots or listened to country music. Very few of my friends there did either. Lots of Texans, but plenty of out-of-staters like me.


It’s now a thing for the girls to wear cowboy boots with cute dresses to football games, but it’s definitely a fashion thing, not a real cowboy thing.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2022 23:48     Subject: Does it kind of suck to be an out of state student?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Texas was very Texas-centric. Really tough for my out of state niece to fit in and find a group.


I’ve heard this too. You kind of have to just give in to country music, belt buckles and boots.

(Not a state school but I wonder how much Rice is like this.)


If pp was referring to UT Austin, that makes sense, since 90% of the student body is from Texas (by law). My DC goes to a private school in Texas and about half the student body is from OOS. Their friends are from NY, CA, Midwest.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2022 23:12     Subject: Does it kind of suck to be an out of state student?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is OP. For those saying kids should want to get out of their own bubble, that’s exactly why my kid wants to go to a flagship in another state BUT we keep hearing that what ends up happening, unfortunately, is that people end up sorting by their home regions anyway.

We’ve heard Wisconsin is like this too where there are the NY and northeast dorms and mini social scenes. Some of the OOS kids probably want to mix it up with more students from Wisconsin but it’s more difficult than you’d think.


Wisconsin is definitely like this, but, as a Wisconsinite, it's not the locals making it difficult. The "coastie" kids come from NY/NJ/DC, live in their own private dorms because the public ones aren't good enough for them, and therefore self-segregate. There's also the issue that they have a lot more money than the Wisconsin kids -- so they wear better clothes, have nice cars, and just are in a completely different socioeconomic strata than your average in-state kid. They only hang out with themselves, join their own frats/sororities, go to separate bars than others, and generally look down at the "Sconnie" kids with disdain. So yes, there was, at least when I was in college there 12+ years ago, a big divide--- maybe it's changed since then.

That said, I did make friends with a few East and West Coast kids -- but they were the ones who lived in the university dorms like the rest of us. They still had loads more money than most Wisconsin kids, but personality-wise, they were very different from the other OOS kids.

It has not changed at all.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2022 23:01     Subject: Re:Does it kind of suck to be an out of state student?
Kids from other states are not very different from kids from Virginia. Maybe your kid is just socially inept.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2022 22:59     Subject: Does it kind of suck to be an out of state student?
Anonymous wrote:This is OP. For those saying kids should want to get out of their own bubble, that’s exactly why my kid wants to go to a flagship in another state BUT we keep hearing that what ends up happening, unfortunately, is that people end up sorting by their home regions anyway.

We’ve heard Wisconsin is like this too where there are the NY and northeast dorms and mini social scenes. Some of the OOS kids probably want to mix it up with more students from Wisconsin but it’s more difficult than you’d think.


Wisconsin is definitely like this, but, as a Wisconsinite, it's not the locals making it difficult. The "coastie" kids come from NY/NJ/DC, live in their own private dorms because the public ones aren't good enough for them, and therefore self-segregate. There's also the issue that they have a lot more money than the Wisconsin kids -- so they wear better clothes, have nice cars, and just are in a completely different socioeconomic strata than your average in-state kid. They only hang out with themselves, join their own frats/sororities, go to separate bars than others, and generally look down at the "Sconnie" kids with disdain. So yes, there was, at least when I was in college there 12+ years ago, a big divide--- maybe it's changed since then.

That said, I did make friends with a few East and West Coast kids -- but they were the ones who lived in the university dorms like the rest of us. They still had loads more money than most Wisconsin kids, but personality-wise, they were very different from the other OOS kids.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2022 22:44     Subject: Does it kind of suck to be an out of state student?
My DC is at a popular in-state VA university and has tons of OOS friends. Several are going to be coming home w/DC for fall break (our home). There doesn't seem to be any issue with OOS and IS kids being friends.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2022 22:26     Subject: Does it kind of suck to be an out of state student?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Texas was very Texas-centric. Really tough for my out of state niece to fit in and find a group.


I’ve heard this too. You kind of have to just give in to country music, belt buckles and boots.

(Not a state school but I wonder how much Rice is like this.)


I highly doubt Rice is like this. I went to SMU and NEVER wore boots or listened to country music. Very few of my friends there did either. Lots of Texans, but plenty of out-of-staters like me.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2022 20:56     Subject: Re:Does it kind of suck to be an out of state student?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Certain frats won’t take kids from OOS.


In this day and age, who on earth wants to get into a frat or sorority?!?!



Kids who end up pulling way more than you did in college, geed.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2022 20:53     Subject: Re:Does it kind of suck to be an out of state student?
OP: I think that you may have intended the thread title to read:

"Does it kind of suck to be an out of state student at a public state school ?"

Private schools tend to be quite diverse from a geographical standpoint.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2022 20:43     Subject: Does it kind of suck to be an out of state student?
My DD is a college senior and goes to school on the west coast. All of her old friends that attended VA schools are all still hanging out together- lived with each other for all 4 years and will graduate and live together in Arlington or DC. Very much a continuation of high school cliques. My DD has pretty much lost touch with all of them... I'm not criticizing the ones who hang with thier local friends- it actually seems nice- they have friends for life. My DD has new friends at school but who knows where DD and the rest will all end up after graduating.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2022 20:40     Subject: Re:Does it kind of suck to be an out of state student?
Both my kids attended OOS flagships and had no trouble meeting and socializing with in-state and other OOS kids. Lucky for us and them we weren’t worrying about such trivia.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2022 20:37     Subject: Does it kind of suck to be an out of state student?
Anonymous wrote:Texas was very Texas-centric. Really tough for my out of state niece to fit in and find a group.


I’ve heard this too. You kind of have to just give in to country music, belt buckles and boots.

(Not a state school but I wonder how much Rice is like this.)