Anonymous
Post 09/23/2022 19:50     Subject: Re:How many kids per class in the NW elementary schools?
No offense, but if small class size is important to you--look at independent schools. It's all about small class size.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2022 19:05     Subject: Re:How many kids per class in the NW elementary schools?
At Hearst, my kid’s K class was 14 students + 2 teachers last year, but that was due to an unusual combo of factors. Everyone loved it, but I don’t think the classes are usually that small. 1st grade class is 21 or 22 this year, I believe.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2022 14:35     Subject: How many kids per class in the NW elementary schools?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Title 1 schools tend to have less kids per class. The trick is to find one on the cusp of flipping to non-title 1 status.
My kid is at one, now in 4th grade, never had more than 18 kids per class since PK 3. But lots of UMC families filling out the lower grades, so test score and fundraising going up every year.


Ew “the trick”


No ew factor at all. It makes a difference to have some UMC families to raise money for field trips (teachers should not have to write grants to pay for a bus for a field trip), we are one month into school and I have already spent $200 buying supplies for my kids three teachers that will be used for every single kid in the class. And I am happy to do that. As I tell my kid, if you are in a position to help,then you should help.


So you use the community while it is convenient for you so you can have small class sizes, and then abandon it by MS. This is why we have overcrowding at one MS, people think there is only one "acceptable" hs, and the city segregates after 5th grade. I stand by my ew.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2022 11:41     Subject: How many kids per class in the NW elementary schools?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Title 1 schools tend to have less kids per class. The trick is to find one on the cusp of flipping to non-title 1 status.
My kid is at one, now in 4th grade, never had more than 18 kids per class since PK 3. But lots of UMC families filling out the lower grades, so test score and fundraising going up every year.


Ew “the trick”


No ew factor at all. It makes a difference to have some UMC families to raise money for field trips (teachers should not have to write grants to pay for a bus for a field trip), we are one month into school and I have already spent $200 buying supplies for my kids three teachers that will be used for every single kid in the class. And I am happy to do that. As I tell my kid, if you are in a position to help,then you should help.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2022 01:28     Subject: How many kids per class in the NW elementary schools?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree you want to be EOTP for small class sizes. Often with an aide. Find a school with a good administration and you’ll have excellent teachers who stay for years and years.


I don’t think op wants to be EOTP, she wants Deal or Hardy feeders. Maybe Shepherd?


I’d be curious what the class sizes are like at Shepherd and Bancroft. EOTP Deal feeders. I would guess larger like WOTP schools.


Shepherd 1st grade 19
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2022 22:29     Subject: Re:How many kids per class in the NW elementary schools?
Anonymous wrote:We are on our 5th year at Mann (combined across two kiddos). Never had more than 20/ class.


We’ve typically had 22 or 23 in a class at Mann, though fewer last year.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2022 22:07     Subject: How many kids per class in the NW elementary schools?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Title 1 schools tend to have less kids per class. The trick is to find one on the cusp of flipping to non-title 1 status.
My kid is at one, now in 4th grade, never had more than 18 kids per class since PK 3. But lots of UMC families filling out the lower grades, so test score and fundraising going up every year.


Do you just make things up??? This isn't true.


Yeah? You sure about that?
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2022 21:38     Subject: How many kids per class in the NW elementary schools?
Anonymous wrote:Title 1 schools tend to have less kids per class. The trick is to find one on the cusp of flipping to non-title 1 status.
My kid is at one, now in 4th grade, never had more than 18 kids per class since PK 3. But lots of UMC families filling out the lower grades, so test score and fundraising going up every year.


Do you just make things up??? This isn't true.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2022 21:05     Subject: Re:How many kids per class in the NW elementary schools?
4th grade Garrison elementary 20 kids came from NYC was 32
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2022 09:45     Subject: How many kids per class in the NW elementary schools?
Just because there is a debate on another thread on this topic… teachers like small class size but no evidence it improves student outcomes - and likely redirects needed funds from reforms that do make a difference in student outcomes.

https://www.chalkbeat.org/2022/6/10/23162544/class-size-research?_amp=true
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2022 09:39     Subject: Re:How many kids per class in the NW elementary schools?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Murch 1st grade 28. Not happy about it.


I’m afraid that those who chose not to begin Kindergarten in the fall of 2020 created an extra large K class the following year across the country. That cohort is now in 1st grade. So you won’t be able to fairly predict next years 1st grade class size by looking at this year’s.


This. A lot of people held off that fall, so I'd expect that cohort to be oversized.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2022 09:33     Subject: Re:How many kids per class in the NW elementary schools?
We are on our 5th year at Mann (combined across two kiddos). Never had more than 20/ class.
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2022 22:36     Subject: How many kids per class in the NW elementary schools?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:having experienced small class sizes EOTP and big class sizes WOTP I would take wotp any day. I found the quality if the teachers and having a less challenging student body more important to a good school experience.

The best teachers my children had were at a title 1 elementary school. They dealt with trauma, food insecurity, behavior and taught. The easy jobs are WOTP elementary schools. You just need to show up.


😂 You are misinformed.


Sure, it’s equally challenging to teach at Murch and Raymond.


I’ll take your word for it, assuming you’ve taught at both (I choose to let your sarcasm be lost on me). The Misinformed PP has CLEARLY never taught at ANY elementary school if they truly believe all you have to do is show up. The number of inappropriately critical emails our staff has received from parents this year (who really don’t know what they’re talking about yet are extremely harsh and belittling) does tend to lead an experienced and committed teacher to start phoning it in however. It’s just not worth all the crap thrown our way…


I think PPs are differentiating the teaching from the parent management. Both are challenging, but require different skill sets.
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2022 22:34     Subject: How many kids per class in the NW elementary schools?
Anonymous wrote:Eaton 1st grade has 18; well one of the classes. There are three and the highest has 19


That’s a nice change! The 1st grade classes were 25, 25, and 26 when we were there, and that was typical.
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2022 22:28     Subject: How many kids per class in the NW elementary schools?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:having experienced small class sizes EOTP and big class sizes WOTP I would take wotp any day. I found the quality if the teachers and having a less challenging student body more important to a good school experience.

The best teachers my children had were at a title 1 elementary school. They dealt with trauma, food insecurity, behavior and taught. The easy jobs are WOTP elementary schools. You just need to show up.


😂 You are misinformed.


Sure, it’s equally challenging to teach at Murch and Raymond.


I’ll take your word for it, assuming you’ve taught at both (I choose to let your sarcasm be lost on me). The Misinformed PP has CLEARLY never taught at ANY elementary school if they truly believe all you have to do is show up. The number of inappropriately critical emails our staff has received from parents this year (who really don’t know what they’re talking about yet are extremely harsh and belittling) does tend to lead an experienced and committed teacher to start phoning it in however. It’s just not worth all the crap thrown our way…