Anonymous wrote:Hope the kids don't inherit the alcoholism

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Anonymous wrote:How is he not permanently cancelled for this hazing incident? Thanks to the poster who brought that up. I’ve never heard of it and it’s truly horrific. He should be in jail.

Great question

I was always icked out that this story is out there and Tina Fey put him on her show

His case was investigated and he was cleared.

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Anonymous wrote:How is he not permanently cancelled for this hazing incident? Thanks to the poster who brought that up. I’ve never heard of it and it’s truly horrific. He should be in jail.

Great question

I was always icked out that this story is out there and Tina Fey put him on her show

Anonymous wrote:How is he not permanently cancelled for this hazing incident? Thanks to the poster who brought that up. I’ve never heard of it and it’s truly horrific. He should be in jail.

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Anonymous wrote:It was his ex, Jennifer Westfeldt, who didn't want kids. He did: https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/jon-hamm-jennifer-westfeldt-why-they-split-201599/

Westfeldt likes her life as a working actor and director, she's passionate about her artistic projects, and she has no particular desire to have children. I think people sometimes get this wrong because she made a movie with Adam Scott (Friends with Kids) where she played a woman who wants kids enough that she has a baby with her best friend. But it was fiction, and a role. She doesn't want kids.

So Hamm saying he wants kids with his younger girlfriend now is in keeping with what he said his priorities were when he and Westfeldt split. You'll notice Westfeldt is still happily childless even though she could have adopted or done IVF with a sperm donor since their split. She didn't. She doesn't want kids.

I do hope Hamm deals with his drinking problem and any other issues before he has children with anyone. I have a soft spot for him because I think his drinking issues are largely driven by the way he went from virtual unknown actor nearing middle age to super hot leading man, while starring on an AMC television show. It's an unusual path and his work and income has never quite matched up with his public perception as a Clooney-esque figure. I think he's struggle to adjust to fame and there is a part of him who wishes he still had Westfeldt's semi-obscurity -- she gets to just make little movies and do theater or television projects while living a largely normal life (albeit a great one). Hamm left that behind and is now too recognizable and high profile to have that. Plus their breakup meant he also lost the most stabilizing influence in his life. I'm glad he's found someone new and seems to be happy with her.

Hamm/Westfeldt have long been one of my favorite actor couples and I wish them both nothing but the best.

Well that changes the narrative quite a bit. He wants kids, she didn’t, he stayed with her for 18 years despite this and his rising stardom. If he always hopes to have kids and can now achieve that good for him

My sense is that when he was younger, earlier in their relationship, he was less interested in kids. That changed as he got older. I think they actually stayed together for quite a while after that shift happened for him because they'd been together for so long and he didn't want to leave her. He's talked in interviews about how she was his family and as someone who didn't have much family at all growing up, it wasn't something he could take lightly. I think for a time he tried to convince himself that he could be happy just the two of them.

I don't get the hate for him in this thread. He had a sad, neglectful childhood, he was a devoted boyfriend for 18 years (I don't remember any rumors of cheating on either side?), he has struggled with alcohol abuse which is not surprising given his history, and now he's in what appears to be a solid relationship with someone who seems to share his desire for children.

He seems like a good guy who struggles with inner demons. I think people have a hard time separating him from Don Draper and while they do have some things in common, they are very much not the same person. Hamm seems like someone who is very straightforward (not living some deceptive double life) and honest about what he wants and needs. That doesn't mean he's a perfect person with no weaknesses, but he's not a liar and a cheat like Draper was.

Anonymous wrote:He has a dark side, never thought well of him after reading about his role in a horrifying hazing incident:
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/jon-hamm-downplays-college-hazing-incident-mans-pants-lit-fire-calling-bummer-thing-175643026.html

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Anonymous wrote:It was his ex, Jennifer Westfeldt, who didn't want kids. He did: https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/jon-hamm-jennifer-westfeldt-why-they-split-201599/

Westfeldt likes her life as a working actor and director, she's passionate about her artistic projects, and she has no particular desire to have children. I think people sometimes get this wrong because she made a movie with Adam Scott (Friends with Kids) where she played a woman who wants kids enough that she has a baby with her best friend. But it was fiction, and a role. She doesn't want kids.

So Hamm saying he wants kids with his younger girlfriend now is in keeping with what he said his priorities were when he and Westfeldt split. You'll notice Westfeldt is still happily childless even though she could have adopted or done IVF with a sperm donor since their split. She didn't. She doesn't want kids.

I do hope Hamm deals with his drinking problem and any other issues before he has children with anyone. I have a soft spot for him because I think his drinking issues are largely driven by the way he went from virtual unknown actor nearing middle age to super hot leading man, while starring on an AMC television show. It's an unusual path and his work and income has never quite matched up with his public perception as a Clooney-esque figure. I think he's struggle to adjust to fame and there is a part of him who wishes he still had Westfeldt's semi-obscurity -- she gets to just make little movies and do theater or television projects while living a largely normal life (albeit a great one). Hamm left that behind and is now too recognizable and high profile to have that. Plus their breakup meant he also lost the most stabilizing influence in his life. I'm glad he's found someone new and seems to be happy with her.

Hamm/Westfeldt have long been one of my favorite actor couples and I wish them both nothing but the best.

Well that changes the narrative quite a bit. He wants kids, she didn’t, he stayed with her for 18 years despite this and his rising stardom. If he always hopes to have kids and can now achieve that good for him

My sense is that when he was younger, earlier in their relationship, he was less interested in kids. That changed as he got older. I think they actually stayed together for quite a while after that shift happened for him because they'd been together for so long and he didn't want to leave her. He's talked in interviews about how she was his family and as someone who didn't have much family at all growing up, it wasn't something he could take lightly. I think for a time he tried to convince himself that he could be happy just the two of them.

I don't get the hate for him in this thread. He had a sad, neglectful childhood, he was a devoted boyfriend for 18 years (I don't remember any rumors of cheating on either side?), he has struggled with alcohol abuse which is not surprising given his history, and now he's in what appears to be a solid relationship with someone who seems to share his desire for children.

He seems like a good guy who struggles with inner demons. I think people have a hard time separating him from Don Draper and while they do have some things in common, they are very much not the same person. Hamm seems like someone who is very straightforward (not living some deceptive double life) and honest about what he wants and needs. That doesn't mean he's a perfect person with no weaknesses, but he's not a liar and a cheat like Draper was.

Anonymous wrote:Jon Hamm is evil. I remember this hazing incident as a student at UT. This incident is what led the university to eventually close the chapter of Sigma Nu fraternity.

Here's the list of his abuses detailed by his victim in the lawsuit:

Hamm hooked the claw of a hammer underneath his testicles and pulled him around the room 'for at least a minute'.

Hamm spanked Sanders repeatedly with a paddle. 'I'm hurting bad, I mean being hit right where the kidney is, it's killing me'

Hamm and another fraternity member then lifted Sanders up by his underwear, pulling it back and forth in a sawing motion. 'I don't know how far underwear stretches, I don't know how far I was off the ground,' he recalled.

'I was hurting really bad and I remember I was looking up at the ceiling and I was gritting my teeth and squinting my eyes ... it was sawing and it was hurting.'

Sanders told investigators how Hamm then led him to 'the pit' where he ordered him to do press-ups and pushed his face into the ground. The distraught pledge felt someone, possibly Hamm, standing on his back.

Hamm is then supposed to have set fire to Sanders' pants and refused to let him pat the flames down, instead making him blow them out.

The victim suffered nerve damage to his ribs, kidney spasms and a lineal spinal fracture. He almost lost his kidney.

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Anonymous wrote:He's probably gay like Leo and just wants people to think he's normal.

Aren’t gay people “normal” too?

Meaning heteronormative...

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Anonymous wrote:He's probably gay like Leo and just wants people to think he's normal.

Aren’t gay people “normal” too?