Anonymous
Post 09/14/2022 16:48     Subject: Re:S/O - Arlington Magazine 2022 acceptances
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The numbers are, at best, mildly cringe inducing.


I think the schools failed to get complete decision data. There's no way the "accepted" numbers are right. I suspect that magazine will publish a note saying some of the "accepted" numbers were incomplete due to students not reporting outcomes.

The schools know how many transcripts they sent to each college for applications. They don't know the outcomes unless the school is sending a final transcript because the student is attending that college. These data are not right.

Come on now! Every year the numbers are terrible and every year we got the same excuse from Arlington parents.


Not an Arlington parent, but I KNOW some of those schools don't exclude anyone (or almost) and yet the report is showing that 50% of thier applicants (or less) were accepted?????????? No way. Didn't happen. Those stats are just wrong.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2022 16:23     Subject: Re:S/O - Arlington Magazine 2022 acceptances
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The numbers are, at best, mildly cringe inducing.


I think the schools failed to get complete decision data. There's no way the "accepted" numbers are right. I suspect that magazine will publish a note saying some of the "accepted" numbers were incomplete due to students not reporting outcomes.

The schools know how many transcripts they sent to each college for applications. They don't know the outcomes unless the school is sending a final transcript because the student is attending that college. These data are not right.

Come on now! Every year the numbers are terrible and every year we got the same excuse from Arlington parents.


But why do you think the numbers are terrible? If you are expecting APS to have the same college admissions environment as an exclusive private school or a magnet school, then your expectations are completely out of whack. Given the low acceptance rates to elite schools I would expect just a handful of students to be getting into those and that's pretty much the case.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2022 16:18     Subject: Re:S/O - Arlington Magazine 2022 acceptances
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The numbers are, at best, mildly cringe inducing.


I think the schools failed to get complete decision data. There's no way the "accepted" numbers are right. I suspect that magazine will publish a note saying some of the "accepted" numbers were incomplete due to students not reporting outcomes.

The schools know how many transcripts they sent to each college for applications. They don't know the outcomes unless the school is sending a final transcript because the student is attending that college. These data are not right.

Come on now! Every year the numbers are terrible and every year we got the same excuse from Arlington parents.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2022 16:07     Subject: Re:S/O - Arlington Magazine 2022 acceptances
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The numbers are, at best, mildly cringe inducing.


Why? Do people really not understand the state of college admissions? At what non-magnet/not exclusively high income public school do tons of students get into super-selective colleges? Pubic school students mostly go to their public universities.

Even if my kids was a super star, we can mostly afford in state schools with a HHI just above 200k and 529s. Not everyone is well off. Why is this so damn hard for DCUM to understand. We could never afford Georgetown like schools.


Same my kids applied/are applying to in-state publics + OOS/privates that give merit aid.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2022 15:34     Subject: Re:S/O - Arlington Magazine 2022 acceptances
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The numbers are, at best, mildly cringe inducing.


Why? Do people really not understand the state of college admissions? At what non-magnet/not exclusively high income public school do tons of students get into super-selective colleges? Pubic school students mostly go to their public universities.

Even if my kids was a super star, we can mostly afford in state schools with a HHI just above 200k and 529s. Not everyone is well off. Why is this so damn hard for DCUM to understand. We could never afford Georgetown like schools.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2022 15:22     Subject: S/O - Arlington Magazine 2022 acceptances
Anonymous wrote:This is why people pay for top privates.
The DC Big3 privates (this year) sent 20% to the Ivy League and another 20% to other top 20 universities and another 20% to top 20 liberal arts colleges and another 20% to universities ranked 20-50..


And these same people who can afford top privates can also pay full tuition for these T20 schools. This is a big reason why their percentages are higher. And, legacies. For families in the middle, who don't qualify for need-based aid, the price tag isn't affordable or worth it.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2022 14:56     Subject: Re:S/O - Arlington Magazine 2022 acceptances
Anonymous wrote:The numbers are, at best, mildly cringe inducing.


I think the schools failed to get complete decision data. There's no way the "accepted" numbers are right. I suspect that magazine will publish a note saying some of the "accepted" numbers were incomplete due to students not reporting outcomes.

The schools know how many transcripts they sent to each college for applications. They don't know the outcomes unless the school is sending a final transcript because the student is attending that college. These data are not right.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2022 14:25     Subject: S/O - Arlington Magazine 2022 acceptances
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow, it is crazy to compare these acceptance rates to the MoCo schools. So much lower.


Part of this may be how good the school is about following up with students on acceptances. The school knows how many applied because it gets that data from Naviance. But students have to submit their acceptances. My son was totally lazy and never did (except for the school he actually attended). Maybe MCPS is better about the follow up?


Agreed. My kid just started at Brown, and her high school doesn't show her as an acceptance. I think she put it into Naviance, but I don't know for sure.


Glad to hear. I was shocked when I saw zero across the board.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2022 13:51     Subject: S/O - Arlington Magazine 2022 acceptances
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow, it is crazy to compare these acceptance rates to the MoCo schools. So much lower.


Part of this may be how good the school is about following up with students on acceptances. The school knows how many applied because it gets that data from Naviance. But students have to submit their acceptances. My son was totally lazy and never did (except for the school he actually attended). Maybe MCPS is better about the follow up?


Agreed. My kid just started at Brown, and her high school doesn't show her as an acceptance. I think she put it into Naviance, but I don't know for sure.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2022 13:05     Subject: S/O - Arlington Magazine 2022 acceptances
Anonymous wrote:Wow, it is crazy to compare these acceptance rates to the MoCo schools. So much lower.


Part of this may be how good the school is about following up with students on acceptances. The school knows how many applied because it gets that data from Naviance. But students have to submit their acceptances. My son was totally lazy and never did (except for the school he actually attended). Maybe MCPS is better about the follow up?
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2022 12:47     Subject: S/O - Arlington Magazine 2022 acceptances
Anonymous wrote:Where are the college counselors in all of this? One small example: I went to one of the 5Cs in Claremont, and no one applied to the ones that are easiest to get into (Pitzer & Scripps (all-women so granted a more limited pool)).

Any college counselor worth his or her salt should know that if you like the town and campus feel, you’d likely be happy at any of the schools. So why only apply to the most prestigious ones?

How many other examples are there?


Public high schools offer very little in personalized college counseling.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2022 12:28     Subject: S/O - Arlington Magazine 2022 acceptances
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is why people pay for top privates.
The DC Big3 privates (this year) sent 20% to the Ivy League and another 20% to other top 20 universities and another 20% to top 20 liberal arts colleges and another 20% to universities ranked 20-50..


Correlation is not causation. People who can send their kids to the Big 3 also tend to be those who have an edge for these universities. The big publics, even in Arlington, educate the population as a whole as a matter of right, not just a subsection as a matter of privilege. There's value in elite private education, but there is immense social value in public education that has nothing to do with college admissions.


This is why we send our kids to the public school. We can afford a private, but we are all in on public education. One kid just started at an Ivy, and another one is a senior. I wouldn't change a thing. Over and above just the cost savings, I am so grateful to have quality public education in Virginia.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2022 12:24     Subject: S/O - Arlington Magazine 2022 acceptances
Anonymous wrote:This is why people pay for top privates.
The DC Big3 privates (this year) sent 20% to the Ivy League and another 20% to other top 20 universities and another 20% to top 20 liberal arts colleges and another 20% to universities ranked 20-50..


Correlation is not causation. People who can send their kids to the Big 3 also tend to be those who have an edge for these universities. The big publics, even in Arlington, educate the population as a whole as a matter of right, not just a subsection as a matter of privilege. There's value in elite private education, but there is immense social value in public education that has nothing to do with college admissions.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2022 12:00     Subject: S/O - Arlington Magazine 2022 acceptances
Where are the college counselors in all of this? One small example: I went to one of the 5Cs in Claremont, and no one applied to the ones that are easiest to get into (Pitzer & Scripps (all-women so granted a more limited pool)).

Any college counselor worth his or her salt should know that if you like the town and campus feel, you’d likely be happy at any of the schools. So why only apply to the most prestigious ones?

How many other examples are there?
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2022 11:53     Subject: S/O - Arlington Magazine 2022 acceptances
Anonymous wrote:Seeing only 5 accepted to DC's favorite school is so hard to digest.


Might be the University of Chicago.