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Anonymous wrote:It's not just the military. This article on a leaked Oath Keeper membership roster caught my eye yesterday. The leak showed that these types of folks are also "law enforcement officers and first responders, veterans and military members, elected officials and government employees, religious and business leaders, teachers and others."


https://patch.com/virginia/arlington-va/oath-keepers-leaked-membership-roster-shows-1-091-virginia-members

VIRGINIA — Members of the Oath Keepers militia group, one of the extremist groups federal prosecutors say figured prominently in the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol, include people in prominent positions in Virginia, according to leaked membership data.

The data, collected by the Distributed Denial of Secrets and presented Tuesday in a report by the Anti-Defamation League Center on Extremism, shows many of the 38,000 members are law enforcement officers and first responders, veterans and military members, elected officials and government employees, religious and business leaders, teachers and others.

There are 1,091 Oath Keepers members in Virginia, according to the report. Among them are:

Elected officials: 1
Law enforcement: 6
Military: 15
First responders: 3
Total in these four professions: 25

Break that down to remove the 1 elected official, and there are a total of 24 out of 1,091 Oath Keepers who are in law enforcement, military, and first responders, around 2%. What are the professions of the other 98%?

Whenever people start accusing and attacking the military for being white supremist and extremists, there's never any proof. It's like when there are stories that white Christians are a national terrorist threat to the U.S. There's never any proof.

We don’t need any proof, it’s common knowledge. Do you need proof that’s it’s daylight at 11am? Do you need proof the ground is wet if it’s raining? Do you need proof trump is a Russian asset? No. There are some things that everyone just knows. No proof is needed.

Spoken like a true believer in communism.

Anonymous wrote:Great, and we were paying this guy's salary. And the guns he was trained on.

One clue to this whole cancer is when first responders were refusing to get COVID shots. Come on, they respond to old people who are very sick, and they think it is fine to go into homes unvaccinated.

Trump dolts. (So the racism is to be expected....)

Are you a doctor? Do you have all the medical information about the people that refused to get a medical procedure done to them. I thought people around here were for medical freedom or something. I mean if they were allergic what right do you have to tell them they have to get a vaccination?

We had COVID in the US late 2019 verified by donated blood. We didn't get massive death rates until the FDA/CDC said we had no treatments and told people to go home and die around March of 2020. Of course these numbers were later reduced because they showed errors that many didn't die from COVID but only had it. This is the stuff that happens when you give extra money out and don't track where it goes, you get false numbers. Then Big Pharma came out with shot that was bragged to be "safe and effective" that leads to issues like this:

The cumulative incidence of retinal vascular occlusion was significantly higher in the vaccinated cohort compared to the unvaccinated cohort, 2 years and 12 weeks after vaccination.

Then they never tested the vaccine for transmission so your entire argument is on the false MSM and our own Gov for telling lies that the virus just "stops" after being vaccinated. It was so widely believed that the hospitals didn't even start testing fully vaccinated people for covid until the social media crowd with proud postings of their vaccination cards came down with COVID symptoms, say it ain't so.

On that note if it hadn't been for Trump you would not have your precious vaccine to cling to.

Back to the guns topic.

Nice race baiting, you probably don't think much about headlines like this:

"Detective in killing of Kenner handyman: Suspect said they wanted to 'kill white person' "

There are evil people all over but you make it out to be one side. Just shows how brainwashed this country is.

Anonymous wrote:The Anti-Defamation League Center on Extremism pored over more than 38,000 names on leaked Oath Keepers membership lists and identified more than 370 people it believes currently work in law enforcement agencies — including as police chiefs and sheriffs — and more than 100 people who are currently members of the military.

470 ÷ 38000 = 0.012368421052632 = 1.2368421052632%

1%

That's out of 38,000 total names. How many of those 38,000 names was ADL actually able to research, uniquely identify, and verify their status? That number is likely much smaller than 38,000. The percentage is likely much higher. Especially since Oath Keepers specifically touted itself as being military and law enforcement, and continues to do so even today.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not just the military. This article on a leaked Oath Keeper membership roster caught my eye yesterday. The leak showed that these types of folks are also "law enforcement officers and first responders, veterans and military members, elected officials and government employees, religious and business leaders, teachers and others."


https://patch.com/virginia/arlington-va/oath-keepers-leaked-membership-roster-shows-1-091-virginia-members

VIRGINIA — Members of the Oath Keepers militia group, one of the extremist groups federal prosecutors say figured prominently in the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol, include people in prominent positions in Virginia, according to leaked membership data.

The data, collected by the Distributed Denial of Secrets and presented Tuesday in a report by the Anti-Defamation League Center on Extremism, shows many of the 38,000 members are law enforcement officers and first responders, veterans and military members, elected officials and government employees, religious and business leaders, teachers and others.

There are 1,091 Oath Keepers members in Virginia, according to the report. Among them are:

Elected officials: 1
Law enforcement: 6
Military: 15
First responders: 3
Total in these four professions: 25

Break that down to remove the 1 elected official, and there are a total of 24 out of 1,091 Oath Keepers who are in law enforcement, military, and first responders, around 2%. What are the professions of the other 98%?

Whenever people start accusing and attacking the military for being white supremist and extremists, there's never any proof. It's like when there are stories that white Christians are a national terrorist threat to the U.S. There's never any proof.

We don’t need any proof, it’s common knowledge. Do you need proof that’s it’s daylight at 11am? Do you need proof the ground is wet if it’s raining? Do you need proof trump is a Russian asset? No. There are some things that everyone just knows. No proof is needed.

Anonymous wrote:I thought it was an acknowledged problem that there were a ton of white supremacists in the military?

Known and acknowledged by every informed person in America, except for racist MAGAs who still for some weird reason think they can deny it or have plausible deniability - when they don't.

The Anti-Defamation League Center on Extremism pored over more than 38,000 names on leaked Oath Keepers membership lists and identified more than 370 people it believes currently work in law enforcement agencies — including as police chiefs and sheriffs — and more than 100 people who are currently members of the military.

470 ÷ 38000 = 0.012368421052632 = 1.2368421052632%

1%

Anonymous wrote:It's not just the military. This article on a leaked Oath Keeper membership roster caught my eye yesterday. The leak showed that these types of folks are also "law enforcement officers and first responders, veterans and military members, elected officials and government employees, religious and business leaders, teachers and others."


https://patch.com/virginia/arlington-va/oath-keepers-leaked-membership-roster-shows-1-091-virginia-members

VIRGINIA — Members of the Oath Keepers militia group, one of the extremist groups federal prosecutors say figured prominently in the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol, include people in prominent positions in Virginia, according to leaked membership data.

The data, collected by the Distributed Denial of Secrets and presented Tuesday in a report by the Anti-Defamation League Center on Extremism, shows many of the 38,000 members are law enforcement officers and first responders, veterans and military members, elected officials and government employees, religious and business leaders, teachers and others.

There are 1,091 Oath Keepers members in Virginia, according to the report. Among them are:

Elected officials: 1
Law enforcement: 6
Military: 15
First responders: 3
Total in these four professions: 25

Break that down to remove the 1 elected official, and there are a total of 24 out of 1,091 Oath Keepers who are in law enforcement, military, and first responders, around 2%. What are the professions of the other 98%?

Whenever people start accusing and attacking the military for being white supremist and extremists, there's never any proof. It's like when there are stories that white Christians are a national terrorist threat to the U.S. There's never any proof.

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A former soldier who is federally charged with lying in his application for a security clearance said he enlisted in the Army so he’d be “more proficient in killing” Black people, prosecutors allege.

Killian M. Ryan, who was stationed at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, held the rank of specialist and served in the Army until Aug. 26, a spokesperson with the XVIII Airborne Corps said in a statement Thursday.

Ryan “was separated from the Army for serious misconduct,” the statement said.

An affidavit filed Aug. 25 in U.S. District Court for Eastern North Carolina alleges that Ryan had online ties to people whose social media accounts were “associated with racially motivated extremism.”

The affidavit, written by a Fayetteville police officer on the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force, also alleges that Ryan posted his motivation for joining the Army on an Instagram account. "I serve for combat experience so I'm more proficient in killing n------," he is alleged to have said. Ryan also had five Instagram accounts in which he communicated with extremists who were motivated by racial animus, the affidavit said.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/soldier-dismissed-army-allegedly-said-enlisted-become-proficient-killi-rcna46900

Wonder how many more there are? Looks like he was actually already in the Airborne Corps.


Looks like he was only found out because of other problems.

A former paratrooper who allegedly enlisted in the army to become more proficient at killing Black people was given top security clearance despite ties to white supremacist organizations and Nazi ideology.

Killian Ryan was arrested on 26 August and charged with making a false statement on his army application for the secret security clearance, and then discharged on the same day for multiple drink-driving violations.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/sep/08/us-military-killian-ryan-racism-social-media

Bet he would not have been discovered without the DWIs.

He lied. He was discharged for serious misconduct. The Army took care of the problem.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not just the military. This article on a leaked Oath Keeper membership roster caught my eye yesterday. The leak showed that these types of folks are also "law enforcement officers and first responders, veterans and military members, elected officials and government employees, religious and business leaders, teachers and others."


https://patch.com/virginia/arlington-va/oath-keepers-leaked-membership-roster-shows-1-091-virginia-members

VIRGINIA — Members of the Oath Keepers militia group, one of the extremist groups federal prosecutors say figured prominently in the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol, include people in prominent positions in Virginia, according to leaked membership data.

The data, collected by the Distributed Denial of Secrets and presented Tuesday in a report by the Anti-Defamation League Center on Extremism, shows many of the 38,000 members are law enforcement officers and first responders, veterans and military members, elected officials and government employees, religious and business leaders, teachers and others.

Rub-a-dub-dub,
Three men in a tub,
And who do you think they be?
The butcher, the baker, the candlestick maker,
And all of them out to sea.

Tinker, tailor,
soldier, sailor,
rich man, poor man,
beggarman, thief.

Anonymous wrote:It's not just the military. This article on a leaked Oath Keeper membership roster caught my eye yesterday. The leak showed that these types of folks are also "law enforcement officers and first responders, veterans and military members, elected officials and government employees, religious and business leaders, teachers and others."


https://patch.com/virginia/arlington-va/oath-keepers-leaked-membership-roster-shows-1-091-virginia-members

VIRGINIA — Members of the Oath Keepers militia group, one of the extremist groups federal prosecutors say figured prominently in the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol, include people in prominent positions in Virginia, according to leaked membership data.

The data, collected by the Distributed Denial of Secrets and presented Tuesday in a report by the Anti-Defamation League Center on Extremism, shows many of the 38,000 members are law enforcement officers and first responders, veterans and military members, elected officials and government employees, religious and business leaders, teachers and others.

Rub-a-dub-dub,
Three men in a tub,
And who do you think they be?
The butcher, the baker, the candlestick maker,
And all of them out to sea.

Anonymous wrote:I thought it was an acknowledged problem that there were a ton of white supremacists in the military?

I’d estimate that probably 75% of white males in the military are probably just like this man, and even more if they’re from the south. The entire military really needs to just do a blanket purge of all white men, and just start over from scratch.

The threshold for getting into the military for white men should be incredibly high, and involve an examination of their entire life and every acquaintance or friend they’ve ever had to be certain they haven’t been radicalized.

We have enough people in this country to raise a military that doesn’t depend on white males. Reinstate the draft, if necessary, but find some way to have an army without white men.

A Fort Bragg soldier, found with white supremacist literature and paraphernalia, pleaded guilty this week to having an unregistered “ghost gun,” federal prosecutors say.

Noah Edwin Anthony “had evidence of a preliminary self-titled ‘operation,’ found on his electronic devices, with the goal ‘to physically remove as many of [black and brown people] from Hoke, Cumberland, Robeson and Scotland Counties by whatever means.’”

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Anonymous wrote:But it attracts a higher proportion of conservative people (who believe in "traditional" values, including outdated gender roles) than the general population. Check out the Air Force Academy's culture:

https://www.outsidethebeltway.com/air_force_cadets...ious_harassment_on_yahoo_news/

And the Air Force is considered the more "evolved" of the service branches.

(I say this as someone who has worked for DoD for decades.)

The USAF is infested with evangelical nativists.

Yup https://www.npr.org/2005/06/02/4676698/air-force-academy-embroiled-in-religious-controversy

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Anonymous wrote:Other military officers surely knew of his character but did nothing about it.

"Other?" This guy was not an officer.
Stop talking about things you have no clue about.

Surely he was supervised by officers.

Of course, but PP's use/placement of the word "others" indicates that she was calling THIS guy an officer.
Like many we have seen on DCUM, she just wants to throw random military words/terms around ("enlist" "dishonorable discharge" etc.) with ignorance--using them in incorrect ways.

Seems like you just want to deflect from the real issue. The military is filled with these people, they are not loyal to the constitution, the country, the service or other who serve. Sound like you are one of them.

You are accusing me of not being "loyal to the constitution" because I criticized the misuse of military words/terms?

I think you are part of the problem. You attack posters concerned about white nationalists in a highly selective unit because of their use of terminology. It appears you wish to shut down any talk of the problem. So why should I not think you are part of the same problem? Address the problem. If you are so knowledgeable of the Army talk about how an openly white supremacist was able to make it through basic, jump school and 11B MOS AIT, get promoted to specialist in an airborne unit. He was most likely in that unit for over a year and was not flagged but promoted.

"The problem" is people asserting their opinion into things without knowing a thing about it--and stating it as fact, when it is flat out false. Showing your ignorance, and unwillingness to even be corrected/LEARN the correct way, demonstrates that absolutely everything you say should be dismissed and ignored because it is garbage.
By stating false information as "fact' YOU are "the problem."

I don’t have to know that my AC unit is a universal 5-Ton 54000 BTU 17 SEER Split System AC in order to have a valid opinion on the temperature of my house.