Anonymous wrote:I've always owned German cars and currently have a POS Mini Cooper S, a MBZ E55 and a Porsche Cayenne.

As far as reliability they're not in the same league as say a Toyota or other Japanese brands. I also own a couple Toyotas, that are not troublesome but is just an appliance. Takes you from point A to B without any drama. German cars are NOT boring, and if you're not a DIYer, don't buy one without a warranty.

Before buying go to the respective car forums, mbworld.org, audizine, bimmerfest, etc., and research the SPECIFIC model you're interested in. Spend sometime on 6speedonline, pelican parts.com+, and hear owners experiences.

oh, and to the OP, I'd choose a MB. Go here and research.https://mbworld.org

I've always owned German cars and currently have a POS Mini Cooper S, a MBZ E55 and a Porsche Cayenne.

As far as reliability they're not in the same league as say a Toyota or other Japanese brands. I also own a couple Toyotas, that are not troublesome but is just an appliance. Takes you from point A to B without any drama. German cars are NOT boring, and if you're not a DIYer, don't buy one without a warranty.

Before buying go to the respective car forums, mbworld.org, audizine, bimmerfest, etc., and research the SPECIFIC model you're interested in. Spend sometime on 6speedonline, pelican parts.com+, and hear owners experiences.

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Anonymous wrote:It's pretty rare for any modern car to leave someone stranded. Reliability issues much more commonly affect specific vehicle systems or features which stop operating correctly, but which usually don't result in a complete inability to drive the car. How often do you see relatively new cars broken down on the side of the road? Not often. And when you do, it's more likely to be a flat tire, or someone foolish enough to run out of gas, than it is someone experiencing a complete mechanical failure.

I disagree. Mercedes SUV. All I'm going to say.

Which one?

His/hers. A statistical sample of one.

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Anonymous wrote:German cars are garbage. They charge exorbitant amount of money for their clunky nonsense. Perhaps, there was a time when they were a a lot of things at once; reliable, performant and pleasant . But, nowadays , i find german cars are for people who want the brand names, to say nothing of the fact that, in this area at least, german car drivers are also some of the worst and most obnoxious.

Having said all that, if you're going to buy a german car, do not buy used. There's an argument to be made that if used is what you can afford , then you can't afford it anyway. Buying a used german car is buying problems—literally and figuratively.

It's evident that you have never travelled outside of the country. Go to Germany. You'll change your mind. Plenty and German luxury cars with no problems.

Yeah ! You're right , I've never travelled outside of the country and i need to go *outside* of the country or, specifically to the country these brands originate from to get a shot at a car that isn't a money pit. That wasn't the clever nor convincing retort you thought it was . If anything, you just confirmed what i wrote .

If you aren't maintaining your German car properly, you can't blame others if it becomes a money pit. You only have yourself to blame for it.
Yes travel to Germany or other Europeans countries to see plenty of German luxury cars running without problems, with many having high mileages.
Learn how to maintain a German luxury car. Germans and Europeans handle them properly and they aren't money pits.
You cannot run a fleet of taxis with unreliable money pits. Most Taxis in Germany are MB. That should tell you something about their reliability.

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Anonymous wrote:German cars are garbage. They charge exorbitant amount of money for their clunky nonsense. Perhaps, there was a time when they were a a lot of things at once; reliable, performant and pleasant . But, nowadays , i find german cars are for people who want the brand names, to say nothing of the fact that, in this area at least, german car drivers are also some of the worst and most obnoxious.

Having said all that, if you're going to buy a german car, do not buy used. There's an argument to be made that if used is what you can afford , then you can't afford it anyway. Buying a used german car is buying problems—literally and figuratively.

It's evident that you have never travelled outside of the country. Go to Germany. You'll change your mind. Plenty and German luxury cars with no problems.

Yeah ! You're right , I've never travelled outside of the country and i need to go *outside* of the country or, specifically to the country these brands originate from to get a shot at a car that isn't a money pit. That wasn't the clever nor convincing retort you thought it was . If anything, you just confirmed what i wrote .

Anonymous wrote:German cars are garbage. They charge exorbitant amount of money for their clunky nonsense. Perhaps, there was a time when they were a a lot of things at once; reliable, performant and pleasant . But, nowadays , i find german cars are for people who want the brand names, to say nothing of the fact that, in this area at least, german car drivers are also some of the worst and most obnoxious.

Having said all that, if you're going to buy a german car, do not buy used. There's an argument to be made that if used is what you can afford , then you can't afford it anyway. Buying a used german car is buying problems—literally and figuratively.

It's evident that you have never travelled outside of the country. Go to Germany. You'll change your mind. Plenty and German luxury cars with no problems.

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Anonymous wrote:It's pretty rare for any modern car to leave someone stranded. Reliability issues much more commonly affect specific vehicle systems or features which stop operating correctly, but which usually don't result in a complete inability to drive the car. How often do you see relatively new cars broken down on the side of the road? Not often. And when you do, it's more likely to be a flat tire, or someone foolish enough to run out of gas, than it is someone experiencing a complete mechanical failure.

I disagree. Mercedes SUV. All I'm going to say.

Which one?

Nobody here has any idea what they're talking about.

Yes, some brands are less reliable than others, but there is a MUCH bigger difference BETWEEN CARS than between brands. Look at any reputable website that rates reliability. What you will see is that there are some above average cars for all brands and then there absolute trash cars from most brands.

For example, older BMW 5 series are reliability nightmares. Newer ones are better. The Audi 8 series has lots of reliability problems but the 4/5 series generally don't. Porsche Cayenne lots of problems, Porsche 911 not so much. But also certain model years/generations even within a car can dramatically differ.

Anyone who says "BMW bad" or "Audi bad" is a moron. Probably a poor, too

Anonymous wrote:It's pretty rare for any modern car to leave someone stranded. Reliability issues much more commonly affect specific vehicle systems or features which stop operating correctly, but which usually don't result in a complete inability to drive the car. How often do you see relatively new cars broken down on the side of the road? Not often. And when you do, it's more likely to be a flat tire, or someone foolish enough to run out of gas, than it is someone experiencing a complete mechanical failure.

I disagree. Mercedes SUV. All I'm going to say.

I bought a BMW under a deal where I got lifetime maintenance for free. It never needed anything and lasted forever. I found it interesting that when service didn't make money for them, magically it wasn't needed, and yet the car never broke down or gave me any trouble at all.

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Anonymous wrote:German cars are garbage. They charge exorbitant amount of money for their clunky nonsense. Perhaps, there was a time when they were a a lot of things at once; reliable, performant and pleasant . But, nowadays , i find german cars are for people who want the brand names, to say nothing of the fact that, in this area at least, german car drivers are also some of the worst and most obnoxious.

Having said all that, if you're going to buy a german car, do not buy used. There's an argument to be made that if used is what you can afford , then you can't afford it anyway. Buying a used german car is buying problems—literally and figuratively.

Take a chill pill. It's not that serious.

If you can afford the initial and maintenance costs of owning a German car, go for it.

Nonsense.

Anonymous wrote:German cars are garbage. They charge exorbitant amount of money for their clunky nonsense. Perhaps, there was a time when they were a a lot of things at once; reliable, performant and pleasant . But, nowadays , i find german cars are for people who want the brand names, to say nothing of the fact that, in this area at least, german car drivers are also some of the worst and most obnoxious.

Having said all that, if you're going to buy a german car, do not buy used. There's an argument to be made that if used is what you can afford , then you can't afford it anyway. Buying a used german car is buying problems—literally and figuratively.

Take a chill pill. It's not that serious.

If you can afford the initial and maintenance costs of owning a German car, go for it.

Avoid a BMW. My neighbor got one two weeks ago and it's been in the shop twice.

All terrible for reliability and will be very expensive to repair.

Porsche is probably the most reliable German luxury car.

German cars are garbage. They charge exorbitant amount of money for their clunky nonsense. Perhaps, there was a time when they were a a lot of things at once; reliable, performant and pleasant . But, nowadays , i find german cars are for people who want the brand names, to say nothing of the fact that, in this area at least, german car drivers are also some of the worst and most obnoxious.

Having said all that, if you're going to buy a german car, do not buy used. There's an argument to be made that if used is what you can afford , then you can't afford it anyway. Buying a used german car is buying problems—literally and figuratively.