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Anonymous wrote:Equity should be trading in one of those many six-figured central office people in for two, maybe even three, fairly paid bus drivers. The boundary changes in APS are about that, aren’t they? Let’s be honest: they can’t find drivers because they don’t pay them well. We’re over a mile from the school now, and I’m not keen on my eleven-year-old doing the walk alone. It’s a safety issue. There are no other kids that live near us, so I will drive her.

However, even further away are the kids in the apartments, and I know for a fact that some of their parents don’t have cars. I’m angry for them. All this talk about equity, and what has it gotten them? Lots of central office staff and no busses for their kids.

I support you OP. Spend money where it matters. Having people going around shouting equity makes no difference unless there is a direct impact on students.

Do you have any evidence that students at the apartment building OP mentioned have higher rates of absenteeism or lower academic performance due to the distance they have to walk to school? If not, then that’s not a great place to start addressing equity concerns.

OP fails to consider that, if the apartment dwellers don't have cars, they're used to getting places without cars -- by taking public transit, bicycling, scootering, or even walking. I'll bet the car-less apartment dwellers are not complaining about having to walk a mile to school nearly as much as OP is.

Well, I know one woman wanted to sign her son up for soccer, but couldn’t, because she can’t get him to games. Have you ever taken public transit in this area? Busses? Arlington is not that easy to get around. What are you so bitter about, anyway? You working a cushy job in Central Office? I guess I’d be defensive, too. The truth hurts. We could do away with about half of you, and serve all of the kids better.

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Anonymous wrote:How are three levels of equity officers at Syphax addressing equity concerns?

Oh they aren’t either. Maybe they could drive a bus.

Right. I think smaller class sizes and well-paid drivers would do a lot more for equity.

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Anonymous wrote:Equity should be trading in one of those many six-figured central office people in for two, maybe even three, fairly paid bus drivers. The boundary changes in APS are about that, aren’t they? Let’s be honest: they can’t find drivers because they don’t pay them well. We’re over a mile from the school now, and I’m not keen on my eleven-year-old doing the walk alone. It’s a safety issue. There are no other kids that live near us, so I will drive her.

However, even further away are the kids in the apartments, and I know for a fact that some of their parents don’t have cars. I’m angry for them. All this talk about equity, and what has it gotten them? Lots of central office staff and no busses for their kids.

I support you OP. Spend money where it matters. Having people going around shouting equity makes no difference unless there is a direct impact on students.

Do you have any evidence that students at the apartment building OP mentioned have higher rates of absenteeism or lower academic performance due to the distance they have to walk to school? If not, then that’s not a great place to start addressing equity concerns.

OP fails to consider that, if the apartment dwellers don't have cars, they're used to getting places without cars -- by taking public transit, bicycling, scootering, or even walking. I'll bet the car-less apartment dwellers are not complaining about having to walk a mile to school nearly as much as OP is.

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Ahh…yes. The “they’re used to eating SH!!t so they’re better at it” argument.

That’s some equity right there.

You have offered zero evidence that walk zones impact student outcomes. Until you do that, your argument is worthless.

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It's pouring rain outside. The students who walked a mile in the rain are certainly less fresh for starting the day than the dry student who was bused from their front lawn.

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Anonymous wrote:Equity should be trading in one of those many six-figured central office people in for two, maybe even three, fairly paid bus drivers. The boundary changes in APS are about that, aren’t they? Let’s be honest: they can’t find drivers because they don’t pay them well. We’re over a mile from the school now, and I’m not keen on my eleven-year-old doing the walk alone. It’s a safety issue. There are no other kids that live near us, so I will drive her.

However, even further away are the kids in the apartments, and I know for a fact that some of their parents don’t have cars. I’m angry for them. All this talk about equity, and what has it gotten them? Lots of central office staff and no busses for their kids.

I support you OP. Spend money where it matters. Having people going around shouting equity makes no difference unless there is a direct impact on students.

Do you have any evidence that students at the apartment building OP mentioned have higher rates of absenteeism or lower academic performance due to the distance they have to walk to school? If not, then that’s not a great place to start addressing equity concerns.

OP fails to consider that, if the apartment dwellers don't have cars, they're used to getting places without cars -- by taking public transit, bicycling, scootering, or even walking. I'll bet the car-less apartment dwellers are not complaining about having to walk a mile to school nearly as much as OP is.

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Ahh…yes. The “they’re used to eating SH!!t so they’re better at it” argument.

That’s some equity right there.

You have offered zero evidence that walk zones impact student outcomes. Until you do that, your argument is worthless.

Anonymous wrote:APS now offers free public transit passes for the ARTBus for middle and high school students. I would look into that. I don't think a mile is too far for an 11 year old, but learning to take public transit might be a great way to reduce future car reliance.

Additionally, I was recently speaking to some HS students I tutor and they were telling me that even though they have access to the bus from their school, both to and from school, there are days where there are so many kids waiting for the bus, kids are left behind. That in the AM, another bus comes quick enough, but in the PM, they are left waiting up to 40 minutes for the bus to get them home. So we do need more drivers, but I'm hoping these new bus passes help.

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Anonymous wrote:Equity should be trading in one of those many six-figured central office people in for two, maybe even three, fairly paid bus drivers. The boundary changes in APS are about that, aren’t they? Let’s be honest: they can’t find drivers because they don’t pay them well. We’re over a mile from the school now, and I’m not keen on my eleven-year-old doing the walk alone. It’s a safety issue. There are no other kids that live near us, so I will drive her.

However, even further away are the kids in the apartments, and I know for a fact that some of their parents don’t have cars. I’m angry for them. All this talk about equity, and what has it gotten them? Lots of central office staff and no busses for their kids.

I support you OP. Spend money where it matters. Having people going around shouting equity makes no difference unless there is a direct impact on students.

Do you have any evidence that students at the apartment building OP mentioned have higher rates of absenteeism or lower academic performance due to the distance they have to walk to school? If not, then that’s not a great place to start addressing equity concerns.

OP fails to consider that, if the apartment dwellers don't have cars, they're used to getting places without cars -- by taking public transit, bicycling, scootering, or even walking. I'll bet the car-less apartment dwellers are not complaining about having to walk a mile to school nearly as much as OP is.

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Ahh…yes. The “they’re used to eating SH!!t so they’re better at it” argument.

That’s some equity right there.

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Anonymous wrote:Equity should be trading in one of those many six-figured central office people in for two, maybe even three, fairly paid bus drivers. The boundary changes in APS are about that, aren’t they? Let’s be honest: they can’t find drivers because they don’t pay them well. We’re over a mile from the school now, and I’m not keen on my eleven-year-old doing the walk alone. It’s a safety issue. There are no other kids that live near us, so I will drive her.

However, even further away are the kids in the apartments, and I know for a fact that some of their parents don’t have cars. I’m angry for them. All this talk about equity, and what has it gotten them? Lots of central office staff and no busses for their kids.

I support you OP. Spend money where it matters. Having people going around shouting equity makes no difference unless there is a direct impact on students.

Do you have any evidence that students at the apartment building OP mentioned have higher rates of absenteeism or lower academic performance due to the distance they have to walk to school? If not, then that’s not a great place to start addressing equity concerns.

OP fails to consider that, if the apartment dwellers don't have cars, they're used to getting places without cars -- by taking public transit, bicycling, scootering, or even walking. I'll bet the car-less apartment dwellers are not complaining about having to walk a mile to school nearly as much as OP is.

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Anonymous wrote:Equity should be trading in one of those many six-figured central office people in for two, maybe even three, fairly paid bus drivers. The boundary changes in APS are about that, aren’t they? Let’s be honest: they can’t find drivers because they don’t pay them well. We’re over a mile from the school now, and I’m not keen on my eleven-year-old doing the walk alone. It’s a safety issue. There are no other kids that live near us, so I will drive her.

However, even further away are the kids in the apartments, and I know for a fact that some of their parents don’t have cars. I’m angry for them. All this talk about equity, and what has it gotten them? Lots of central office staff and no busses for their kids.

I support you OP. Spend money where it matters. Having people going around shouting equity makes no difference unless there is a direct impact on students.

Do you have any evidence that students at the apartment building OP mentioned have higher rates of absenteeism or lower academic performance due to the distance they have to walk to school? If not, then that’s not a great place to start addressing equity concerns.

OP fails to consider that, if the apartment dwellers don't have cars, they're used to getting places without cars -- by taking public transit, bicycling, scootering, or even walking. I'll bet the car-less apartment dwellers are not complaining about having to walk a mile to school nearly as much as OP is.

Well, I know one woman wanted to sign her son up for soccer, but couldn’t, because she can’t get him to games. Have you ever taken public transit in this area? Busses? Arlington is not that easy to get around. What are you so bitter about, anyway? You working a cushy job in Central Office? I guess I’d be defensive, too. The truth hurts. We could do away with about half of you, and serve all of the kids better.

How would a bus too and from school for this student enable them to play soccer after school? If they’re within the school walk zone, the walk home likely takes less time than a bus ride would.

My point is, it’s not convenient. It’s not comfortable. But I’d really argue it’s not too safe. Your point is what? They need to pull themselves up by their boot straps and suck it up? You have a car, I’d bet.

How is it unsafe?

What is your actual problem? I’m trying to figure that out. I think I hit a nerve.

I asked a question as to how it is unsafe for children who live within walk zones to walk to and from school. It sounds like you don’t have an answer for that.

My problem with the bigger issue is that I don’t think we should waste money shrinking walk zones because some privileged mommy doesn’t want Larla to expend any effort going too and from school when that money could be use for things that actually improve student achievement, like smaller class sizes.

And- I worry about predators. I do. Attack me if you want. That stuff happens.

Bus drivers can be predators too. Other kids on the bus can assault a student. Those things happen more often than students are attacked by strangers while walking to and from school. If you’re that afraid of potential harm, you shouldn’t be putting your kid on a bus.

I knew that was coming. I think it might be harder for the bus driver predator in your scenario to victimize kids, in front of a whole bus if students. Safety in numbers and all that. Since you’re so fiscally savvy, please tell us how you feel about all of these central office positions, in the name of equity. Are we getting our money’s worth there, too? Surely we can agree there?

My niece was molested by a bus driver when she was a kindergartner, so you can go fck yourself pretending it doesn’t happen.

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Anonymous wrote:Equity should be trading in one of those many six-figured central office people in for two, maybe even three, fairly paid bus drivers. The boundary changes in APS are about that, aren’t they? Let’s be honest: they can’t find drivers because they don’t pay them well. We’re over a mile from the school now, and I’m not keen on my eleven-year-old doing the walk alone. It’s a safety issue. There are no other kids that live near us, so I will drive her.

However, even further away are the kids in the apartments, and I know for a fact that some of their parents don’t have cars. I’m angry for them. All this talk about equity, and what has it gotten them? Lots of central office staff and no busses for their kids.

I support you OP. Spend money where it matters. Having people going around shouting equity makes no difference unless there is a direct impact on students.

Do you have any evidence that students at the apartment building OP mentioned have higher rates of absenteeism or lower academic performance due to the distance they have to walk to school? If not, then that’s not a great place to start addressing equity concerns.

OP fails to consider that, if the apartment dwellers don't have cars, they're used to getting places without cars -- by taking public transit, bicycling, scootering, or even walking. I'll bet the car-less apartment dwellers are not complaining about having to walk a mile to school nearly as much as OP is.

Well, I know one woman wanted to sign her son up for soccer, but couldn’t, because she can’t get him to games. Have you ever taken public transit in this area? Busses? Arlington is not that easy to get around. What are you so bitter about, anyway? You working a cushy job in Central Office? I guess I’d be defensive, too. The truth hurts. We could do away with about half of you, and serve all of the kids better.

How would a bus too and from school for this student enable them to play soccer after school? If they’re within the school walk zone, the walk home likely takes less time than a bus ride would.

My point is, it’s not convenient. It’s not comfortable. But I’d really argue it’s not too safe. Your point is what? They need to pull themselves up by their boot straps and suck it up? You have a car, I’d bet.

How is it unsafe?

What is your actual problem? I’m trying to figure that out. I think I hit a nerve.

I asked a question as to how it is unsafe for children who live within walk zones to walk to and from school. It sounds like you don’t have an answer for that.

My problem with the bigger issue is that I don’t think we should waste money shrinking walk zones because some privileged mommy doesn’t want Larla to expend any effort going too and from school when that money could be use for things that actually improve student achievement, like smaller class sizes.

And- I worry about predators. I do. Attack me if you want. That stuff happens.

Bus drivers can be predators too. Other kids on the bus can assault a student. Those things happen more often than students are attacked by strangers while walking to and from school. If you’re that afraid of potential harm, you shouldn’t be putting your kid on a bus.

I knew that was coming. I think it might be harder for the bus driver predator in your scenario to victimize kids, in front of a whole bus if students. Safety in numbers and all that. Since you’re so fiscally savvy, please tell us how you feel about all of these central office positions, in the name of equity. Are we getting our money’s worth there, too? Surely we can agree there?

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Anonymous wrote:How are three levels of equity officers at Syphax addressing equity concerns?

Oh they aren’t either. Maybe they could drive a bus.

Right. I think smaller class sizes and well-paid drivers would do a lot more for equity.

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Anonymous wrote:Equity should be trading in one of those many six-figured central office people in for two, maybe even three, fairly paid bus drivers. The boundary changes in APS are about that, aren’t they? Let’s be honest: they can’t find drivers because they don’t pay them well. We’re over a mile from the school now, and I’m not keen on my eleven-year-old doing the walk alone. It’s a safety issue. There are no other kids that live near us, so I will drive her.

However, even further away are the kids in the apartments, and I know for a fact that some of their parents don’t have cars. I’m angry for them. All this talk about equity, and what has it gotten them? Lots of central office staff and no busses for their kids.

I support you OP. Spend money where it matters. Having people going around shouting equity makes no difference unless there is a direct impact on students.

Do you have any evidence that students at the apartment building OP mentioned have higher rates of absenteeism or lower academic performance due to the distance they have to walk to school? If not, then that’s not a great place to start addressing equity concerns.

OP fails to consider that, if the apartment dwellers don't have cars, they're used to getting places without cars -- by taking public transit, bicycling, scootering, or even walking. I'll bet the car-less apartment dwellers are not complaining about having to walk a mile to school nearly as much as OP is.

Well, I know one woman wanted to sign her son up for soccer, but couldn’t, because she can’t get him to games. Have you ever taken public transit in this area? Busses? Arlington is not that easy to get around. What are you so bitter about, anyway? You working a cushy job in Central Office? I guess I’d be defensive, too. The truth hurts. We could do away with about half of you, and serve all of the kids better.

How would a bus too and from school for this student enable them to play soccer after school? If they’re within the school walk zone, the walk home likely takes less time than a bus ride would.

My point is, it’s not convenient. It’s not comfortable. But I’d really argue it’s not too safe. Your point is what? They need to pull themselves up by their boot straps and suck it up? You have a car, I’d bet.

How is it unsafe?

What is your actual problem? I’m trying to figure that out. I think I hit a nerve.

I asked a question as to how it is unsafe for children who live within walk zones to walk to and from school. It sounds like you don’t have an answer for that.

My problem with the bigger issue is that I don’t think we should waste money shrinking walk zones because some privileged mommy doesn’t want Larla to expend any effort going too and from school when that money could be use for things that actually improve student achievement, like smaller class sizes.

And- I worry about predators. I do. Attack me if you want. That stuff happens.

Bus drivers can be predators too. Other kids on the bus can assault a student. Those things happen more often than students are attacked by strangers while walking to and from school. If you’re that afraid of potential harm, you shouldn’t be putting your kid on a bus.