Anonymous
09/06/2022 14:21
Subject: Re:If you eat a breakfast sandwich in the morning
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Are you really aiming to limit yourself to a few hundred calories per day? You do not want your body and metabolism to get adjusted to that kind of restriction. No one should feel guilty about eating more than once a day! I ate more than that when I was <90 pounds with an obvious ED.
I did not even weigh myself during my daughter's tween and teen years. We had all kinds of food in the house and she learned that everything is OK in moderation. I never skipped a meal, never dieted (maybe briefly after younger DS was born) and never mentioned my own body or my feelings about it. It was easy for me to do this because my own mother caused so much damage to my body image - I basically just had to do the opposite.
Just wanted to say thank you for doing this for your daughter. It’s so important and hard for many women to do.
+1 I think you should talk to your PCP about professional help. That’s a very small number of calories. I grew up with a mom who struggled with disordered eating and my sister also did. It was incredibly sad. One of the best gifts you can give your child is getting this under control. It’s sometimes easier to do for someone else but you deserve to be free of these worries for yourself too.
NP but how are you also doing this while making sure you and your kids aren't headed into overweight? Maybe my eating is "disordered" by DCUM standards (I don't eat after 7pm, don't eat dessert more than once a week and try to avoid snacking), but I'd rather be this way than overweight. I rarely think about eating and it doesn't rule my life. I really want my kids to eat like I do and stop when they're hungry, but also understand nutrition. It's a fine line. We have only EVER talked about eating vegetables because they are healthy and make you strong and not eating too much dessert because it gives you cavities. But my kids are little and have asked about why some people weigh more.
You have issues. Please get help.
NP. You’re being ridiculous. What is problematic for you? Avoiding sweets and eating veggies is an issue for you? Perhaps you need help.
I think there's a subset of Americans who just think they should be able to eat ANYTHING they want, at whim. And anything else is just disordered eating.
It’s more about calling out MOST people severely disordered relationship w food. It’s has nothing to do with with food. Which is quite universal. Food is fuel. But also: all bodies are good. Some people will be heavier, even while eating “normal” amounts. Shaming fat people seems to be the main way Americans think we should deal with things. Realizing that the diet industry is a multi BILLION dollar industry, and doesn’t give a crap about health, is also important.
We can all have healthy relationships with food without attempting to control other people’s choices.
Anonymous
09/06/2022 14:15
Subject: Re:If you eat a breakfast sandwich in the morning
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Are you really aiming to limit yourself to a few hundred calories per day? You do not want your body and metabolism to get adjusted to that kind of restriction. No one should feel guilty about eating more than once a day! I ate more than that when I was <90 pounds with an obvious ED.
I did not even weigh myself during my daughter's tween and teen years. We had all kinds of food in the house and she learned that everything is OK in moderation. I never skipped a meal, never dieted (maybe briefly after younger DS was born) and never mentioned my own body or my feelings about it. It was easy for me to do this because my own mother caused so much damage to my body image - I basically just had to do the opposite.
Just wanted to say thank you for doing this for your daughter. It’s so important and hard for many women to do.
+1 I think you should talk to your PCP about professional help. That’s a very small number of calories. I grew up with a mom who struggled with disordered eating and my sister also did. It was incredibly sad. One of the best gifts you can give your child is getting this under control. It’s sometimes easier to do for someone else but you deserve to be free of these worries for yourself too.
NP but how are you also doing this while making sure you and your kids aren't headed into overweight? Maybe my eating is "disordered" by DCUM standards (I don't eat after 7pm, don't eat dessert more than once a week and try to avoid snacking), but I'd rather be this way than overweight. I rarely think about eating and it doesn't rule my life. I really want my kids to eat like I do and stop when they're hungry, but also understand nutrition. It's a fine line. We have only EVER talked about eating vegetables because they are healthy and make you strong and not eating too much dessert because it gives you cavities. But my kids are little and have asked about why some people weigh more.
You have issues. Please get help.
NP. You’re being ridiculous. What is problematic for you? Avoiding sweets and eating veggies is an issue for you? Perhaps you need help.
I think there's a subset of Americans who just think they should be able to eat ANYTHING they want, at whim. And anything else is just disordered eating.
+1
DP We will get flamed for saying it, but it’s true. And frankly, looking at the state of the nation, the vast majority of “disordered eating” is the kind of eating that is contributing to obscene levels of obesity, heart disease, and diabetes, among other metabolic disorders. It’s disordered to eat mindlessly all day long. It’s disordered to eat too much processed crud. It’s disordered to eat oversized portions. That’s the stuff that’s moving the needle towards poor health on a larger scale.
Anonymous
09/06/2022 13:53
Subject: Re:If you eat a breakfast sandwich in the morning
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I agree that the type of breakfast sandwich matters. A sandwich with egg McMuffin-type proportions is a great way to start the day and wouldn’t make me feel guilty in the least. But some kind of bacon, egg, sausage, cheese, biscuit monstrosity would probably be different. The last time I had a chick fil a chicken biscuit for breakfast, I enjoyed the whole thing, and just had a small soup or some cheese and crackers awhile later as a lunch/afternoon snack. I still had dinner though. But even then, I’m not worried so much about the calories as I am how it makes me feel. My stomach is going to be out of commission for awhile after that LOL
A chic fil a chicken biscuit has 290 calories. Why would you restrict what you eat the rest of the day?
I’m the PP. Your number seemed low and I just googled. It’s 490 calories for the chicken biscuit. The buttered biscuit alone is 290. Regardless, I specifically said I still eat something small for lunch and have dinner. I don’t think that’s restricting anything. I just rely on what my stomach tells me. If I’m not hungry for awhile afterwards, I’m not going to eat. Not all of us are just feverishly counting calories.
Anonymous
09/06/2022 10:38
Subject: Re:If you eat a breakfast sandwich in the morning
Anonymous wrote:Are you really aiming to limit yourself to a few hundred calories per day? You do not want your body and metabolism to get adjusted to that kind of restriction. No one should feel guilty about eating more than once a day! I ate more than that when I was <90 pounds with an obvious ED.
I did not even weigh myself during my daughter's tween and teen years. We had all kinds of food in the house and she learned that everything is OK in moderation. I never skipped a meal, never dieted (maybe briefly after younger DS was born) and never mentioned my own body or my feelings about it. It was easy for me to do this because my own mother caused so much damage to my body image - I basically just had to do the opposite.
This is what I try to do. It's really hard. Kudos to you!
Anonymous
09/06/2022 10:34
Subject: Re:If you eat a breakfast sandwich in the morning
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Are you really aiming to limit yourself to a few hundred calories per day? You do not want your body and metabolism to get adjusted to that kind of restriction. No one should feel guilty about eating more than once a day! I ate more than that when I was <90 pounds with an obvious ED.
I did not even weigh myself during my daughter's tween and teen years. We had all kinds of food in the house and she learned that everything is OK in moderation. I never skipped a meal, never dieted (maybe briefly after younger DS was born) and never mentioned my own body or my feelings about it. It was easy for me to do this because my own mother caused so much damage to my body image - I basically just had to do the opposite.
Just wanted to say thank you for doing this for your daughter. It’s so important and hard for many women to do.
+1 I think you should talk to your PCP about professional help. That’s a very small number of calories. I grew up with a mom who struggled with disordered eating and my sister also did. It was incredibly sad. One of the best gifts you can give your child is getting this under control. It’s sometimes easier to do for someone else but you deserve to be free of these worries for yourself too.
NP but how are you also doing this while making sure you and your kids aren't headed into overweight? Maybe my eating is "disordered" by DCUM standards (I don't eat after 7pm, don't eat dessert more than once a week and try to avoid snacking), but I'd rather be this way than overweight. I rarely think about eating and it doesn't rule my life. I really want my kids to eat like I do and stop when they're hungry, but also understand nutrition. It's a fine line. We have only EVER talked about eating vegetables because they are healthy and make you strong and not eating too much dessert because it gives you cavities. But my kids are little and have asked about why some people weigh more.
You have issues. Please get help.
NP. You’re being ridiculous. What is problematic for you? Avoiding sweets and eating veggies is an issue for you? Perhaps you need help.
I think there's a subset of Americans who just think they should be able to eat ANYTHING they want, at whim. And anything else is just disordered eating.
Anonymous
09/06/2022 10:29
Subject: If you eat a breakfast sandwich in the morning
I eat a breakfast sandwich every morning. I make it myself and put egg, avocado and/or salmon in it. But I don't eat it first thing in the morning. I'll eat it arouns 9 or 10 am (and take it to work if I'm onsite that day). Then I'll have a small lunch such as salad and yogurt and a normal dinner in the even.
Anonymous
09/06/2022 02:56
Subject: If you eat a breakfast sandwich in the morning
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I feel exceptionally healthy (get my 5 servings of veggies, eat the right amount of protein, good fats, and I do eat carbs), but I cannot eat breakfast. Breakfast makes me feel sick and always has. When I do eat breakfast, I basically eat the entire day and cannot stop. I wish I knew why. I drink coffee and then don't eat until noon + (2pm if I'm not with my kids).
That being said, I don't think a breakfast sandwich is healthy. Too much fat, too many carbs. Most American breakfasts have too many carbs.
Utter nonsense. A standard English muffin breakfast sandwich is perfectly healthy.
I wouldn’t call it healthy. I wouldn’t say it should give someone anxiety either, but healthy? No. I don’t think so.
Weird, I am a registered dietician and I call a breakfast balanced with carbs, protein, and fat quite healthy indeed. More fiber would be nice but can add an apple on the side or switch to a higher fiber bread for that. Even as is, it’s a great choice for most people in the context of a varied diet with fruits and veggies at lunch and dinner. Maybe you have a medical issue like diabetes that make it not so healthy for you, but you should not deem something “unhealthy” because it doesn’t work for your body.
Anonymous
09/06/2022 02:42
Subject: If you eat a breakfast sandwich in the morning
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I feel exceptionally healthy (get my 5 servings of veggies, eat the right amount of protein, good fats, and I do eat carbs), but I cannot eat breakfast. Breakfast makes me feel sick and always has. When I do eat breakfast, I basically eat the entire day and cannot stop. I wish I knew why. I drink coffee and then don't eat until noon + (2pm if I'm not with my kids).
That being said, I don't think a breakfast sandwich is healthy. Too much fat, too many carbs. Most American breakfasts have too many carbs.
Utter nonsense. A standard English muffin breakfast sandwich is perfectly healthy.
I wouldn’t call it healthy. I wouldn’t say it should give someone anxiety either, but healthy? No. I don’t think so.
Anonymous
09/06/2022 02:40
Subject: Re:If you eat a breakfast sandwich in the morning
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Are you really aiming to limit yourself to a few hundred calories per day? You do not want your body and metabolism to get adjusted to that kind of restriction. No one should feel guilty about eating more than once a day! I ate more than that when I was <90 pounds with an obvious ED.
I did not even weigh myself during my daughter's tween and teen years. We had all kinds of food in the house and she learned that everything is OK in moderation. I never skipped a meal, never dieted (maybe briefly after younger DS was born) and never mentioned my own body or my feelings about it. It was easy for me to do this because my own mother caused so much damage to my body image - I basically just had to do the opposite.
Just wanted to say thank you for doing this for your daughter. It’s so important and hard for many women to do.
+1 I think you should talk to your PCP about professional help. That’s a very small number of calories. I grew up with a mom who struggled with disordered eating and my sister also did. It was incredibly sad. One of the best gifts you can give your child is getting this under control. It’s sometimes easier to do for someone else but you deserve to be free of these worries for yourself too.
NP but how are you also doing this while making sure you and your kids aren't headed into overweight? Maybe my eating is "disordered" by DCUM standards (I don't eat after 7pm, don't eat dessert more than once a week and try to avoid snacking), but I'd rather be this way than overweight. I rarely think about eating and it doesn't rule my life. I really want my kids to eat like I do and stop when they're hungry, but also understand nutrition. It's a fine line. We have only EVER talked about eating vegetables because they are healthy and make you strong and not eating too much dessert because it gives you cavities. But my kids are little and have asked about why some people weigh more.
You have issues. Please get help.
NP. You’re being ridiculous. What is problematic for you? Avoiding sweets and eating veggies is an issue for you? Perhaps you need help.
Anonymous
09/06/2022 02:18
Subject: If you eat a breakfast sandwich in the morning
Anonymous wrote:I feel exceptionally healthy (get my 5 servings of veggies, eat the right amount of protein, good fats, and I do eat carbs), but I cannot eat breakfast. Breakfast makes me feel sick and always has. When I do eat breakfast, I basically eat the entire day and cannot stop. I wish I knew why. I drink coffee and then don't eat until noon + (2pm if I'm not with my kids).
That being said, I don't think a breakfast sandwich is healthy. Too much fat, too many carbs. Most American breakfasts have too many carbs.
Utter nonsense. A standard English muffin breakfast sandwich is perfectly healthy.
Anonymous
09/05/2022 22:04
Subject: Re:If you eat a breakfast sandwich in the morning
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Are you really aiming to limit yourself to a few hundred calories per day? You do not want your body and metabolism to get adjusted to that kind of restriction. No one should feel guilty about eating more than once a day! I ate more than that when I was <90 pounds with an obvious ED.
I did not even weigh myself during my daughter's tween and teen years. We had all kinds of food in the house and she learned that everything is OK in moderation. I never skipped a meal, never dieted (maybe briefly after younger DS was born) and never mentioned my own body or my feelings about it. It was easy for me to do this because my own mother caused so much damage to my body image - I basically just had to do the opposite.
Just wanted to say thank you for doing this for your daughter. It’s so important and hard for many women to do.
+1 I think you should talk to your PCP about professional help. That’s a very small number of calories. I grew up with a mom who struggled with disordered eating and my sister also did. It was incredibly sad. One of the best gifts you can give your child is getting this under control. It’s sometimes easier to do for someone else but you deserve to be free of these worries for yourself too.
NP but how are you also doing this while making sure you and your kids aren't headed into overweight? Maybe my eating is "disordered" by DCUM standards (I don't eat after 7pm, don't eat dessert more than once a week and try to avoid snacking), but I'd rather be this way than overweight. I rarely think about eating and it doesn't rule my life. I really want my kids to eat like I do and stop when they're hungry, but also understand nutrition. It's a fine line. We have only EVER talked about eating vegetables because they are healthy and make you strong and not eating too much dessert because it gives you cavities. But my kids are little and have asked about why some people weigh more.
You have issues. Please get help.
Anonymous
09/05/2022 21:29
Subject: Re:If you eat a breakfast sandwich in the morning
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Are you really aiming to limit yourself to a few hundred calories per day? You do not want your body and metabolism to get adjusted to that kind of restriction. No one should feel guilty about eating more than once a day! I ate more than that when I was <90 pounds with an obvious ED.
I did not even weigh myself during my daughter's tween and teen years. We had all kinds of food in the house and she learned that everything is OK in moderation. I never skipped a meal, never dieted (maybe briefly after younger DS was born) and never mentioned my own body or my feelings about it. It was easy for me to do this because my own mother caused so much damage to my body image - I basically just had to do the opposite.
Just wanted to say thank you for doing this for your daughter. It’s so important and hard for many women to do.
+1 I think you should talk to your PCP about professional help. That’s a very small number of calories. I grew up with a mom who struggled with disordered eating and my sister also did. It was incredibly sad. One of the best gifts you can give your child is getting this under control. It’s sometimes easier to do for someone else but you deserve to be free of these worries for yourself too.
NP but how are you also doing this while making sure you and your kids aren't headed into overweight? Maybe my eating is "disordered" by DCUM standards (I don't eat after 7pm, don't eat dessert more than once a week and try to avoid snacking), but I'd rather be this way than overweight. I rarely think about eating and it doesn't rule my life. I really want my kids to eat like I do and stop when they're hungry, but also understand nutrition. It's a fine line. We have only EVER talked about eating vegetables because they are healthy and make you strong and not eating too much dessert because it gives you cavities. But my kids are little and have asked about why some people weigh more.
Anonymous
09/05/2022 21:22
Subject: If you eat a breakfast sandwich in the morning
I feel exceptionally healthy (get my 5 servings of veggies, eat the right amount of protein, good fats, and I do eat carbs), but I cannot eat breakfast. Breakfast makes me feel sick and always has. When I do eat breakfast, I basically eat the entire day and cannot stop. I wish I knew why. I drink coffee and then don't eat until noon + (2pm if I'm not with my kids).
That being said, I don't think a breakfast sandwich is healthy. Too much fat, too many carbs. Most American breakfasts have too many carbs.
That being said, I don't think a breakfast sandwich is healthy. Too much fat, too many carbs. Most American breakfasts have too many carbs.
Anonymous
09/05/2022 21:16
Subject: If you eat a breakfast sandwich in the morning
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:An egg McMuffin has less than 300 calories, so what are you eating that is so frightening?
Also curious about this. I have a breakfast sandwich most mornings. English muffin, one egg, one piece of bacon, and one piece of cheese. Never more than 400 calories.
Do you make it yourself?
NP. I have this most mornings, without bacon. Incredibly easy to make, just medium poach egg while English muffin is toasting and I make my coffee. Takes all of five minutes, I can use higher-quality ingredients than McDs, and it's filling and tasty.
Anonymous
09/05/2022 20:58
Subject: Re:If you eat a breakfast sandwich in the morning
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I agree that the type of breakfast sandwich matters. A sandwich with egg McMuffin-type proportions is a great way to start the day and wouldn’t make me feel guilty in the least. But some kind of bacon, egg, sausage, cheese, biscuit monstrosity would probably be different. The last time I had a chick fil a chicken biscuit for breakfast, I enjoyed the whole thing, and just had a small soup or some cheese and crackers awhile later as a lunch/afternoon snack. I still had dinner though. But even then, I’m not worried so much about the calories as I am how it makes me feel. My stomach is going to be out of commission for awhile after that LOL
A chic fil a chicken biscuit has 290 calories. Why would you restrict what you eat the rest of the day?
Because this site is full of people with borderline eating disorders.