Anonymous
08/24/2022 09:38
Subject: Re:USNEWS 2023 rankings
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Endowment is, arguably, the single most important factor when ranking colleges & universities.
Nonsense. Many of the great publics schools in this country don’t have huge endowments. People seem to forget that large state appropriations are equivalent to billions of dollars in private school endowment.
LOL Place the US News rankings next to a list of schools ranked by endowment. (Univ. of Texas system and Texas A&M endowments cover many universities within each system).
Anonymous
08/24/2022 09:33
Subject: Re:USNEWS 2023 rankings
Anonymous wrote:Endowment is, arguably, the single most important factor when ranking colleges & universities.
Nonsense. Many of the great publics schools in this country don’t have huge endowments. People seem to forget that large state appropriations are equivalent to billions of dollars in private school endowment.
Anonymous
08/24/2022 09:32
Subject: Re:USNEWS 2023 rankings
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Columbia may fall out of the top 10.
Columbia was removed from the 2022 ranking (tied at #2) due to recent disclosures of improper data submission to US News. Columbia University is one of a handful of elite schools that does not submit a CDS.
For the top 5, go with the 5 largest endowments (Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Princeton, MIT).
Then Penn, Chicago, Northwestern, Caltech, & Duke in some order.
Johns Hopkins and Columbia tied at #11.
Next grouping: Dartmouth, Brown, Vanderbilt, Cornell, & WashUStL.
Next 5: Rice, Notre Dame, UCLA, & Cal-Berkeley.
USC may move up from its current #27 position.
You forgot Michigan, and the Cal schools won't get the same bump given the admissions issues from the last cycle.
Also, stop trying to make Notre Dame happen.
Notre Dame has been a T20 for a very very long long time.
It's 7th on endowment. I don't see schools that will push it out of T20.
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Notre Dame will fall because it’s only 3.21 percent black. Again, no one care about its endowment
Sounds like you are new to the college ranking stuff.
Endowment is a very important factor.
Look at the correlation between endowment and the ranking.
Notre Dame admitted enough Blacks, but it can't force them to enroll.
It'll not fall because of black.
Anonymous
08/24/2022 09:31
Subject: USNEWS 2023 rankings
USC has been dropping at USNews for a while now. Not sure why some think it’s going to be headed in the other direction.
Anonymous
08/24/2022 09:28
Subject: Re:USNEWS 2023 rankings
Endowment is, arguably, the single most important factor when ranking colleges & universities.
Anonymous
08/24/2022 09:26
Subject: Re:USNEWS 2023 rankings
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Columbia may fall out of the top 10.
Columbia was removed from the 2022 ranking (tied at #2) due to recent disclosures of improper data submission to US News. Columbia University is one of a handful of elite schools that does not submit a CDS.
For the top 5, go with the 5 largest endowments (Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Princeton, MIT).
Then Penn, Chicago, Northwestern, Caltech, & Duke in some order.
Johns Hopkins and Columbia tied at #11.
Next grouping: Dartmouth, Brown, Vanderbilt, Cornell, & WashUStL.
Next 5: Rice, Notre Dame, UCLA, & Cal-Berkeley.
USC may move up from its current #27 position.
You forgot Michigan, and the Cal schools won't get the same bump given the admissions issues from the last cycle.
Also, stop trying to make Notre Dame happen.
Notre Dame has been a T20 for a very very long long time.
It's 7th on endowment. I don't see schools that will push it out of T20.
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Notre Dame will fall because it’s only 3.21 percent black. Again, no one care about its endowment
Not sure where you are getting your data. Would you mind sharing? I do know that their admissions last year included 14% African American. I realize that doesn't mean enrollment though. What I will say is that ND must have something going for it if it ranks high despite its lack of diversity. Imagine if they fixed that...it would rise above others...maybe to #15 or less?
Anonymous
08/24/2022 09:07
Subject: Re:USNEWS 2023 rankings
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Columbia may fall out of the top 10.
Columbia was removed from the 2022 ranking (tied at #2) due to recent disclosures of improper data submission to US News. Columbia University is one of a handful of elite schools that does not submit a CDS.
For the top 5, go with the 5 largest endowments (Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Princeton, MIT).
Then Penn, Chicago, Northwestern, Caltech, & Duke in some order.
Johns Hopkins and Columbia tied at #11.
Next grouping: Dartmouth, Brown, Vanderbilt, Cornell, & WashUStL.
Next 5: Rice, Notre Dame, UCLA, & Cal-Berkeley.
USC may move up from its current #27 position.
You forgot Michigan, and the Cal schools won't get the same bump given the admissions issues from the last cycle.
Also, stop trying to make Notre Dame happen.
Notre Dame has been a T20 for a very very long long time.
It's 7th on endowment. I don't see schools that will push it out of T20.
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Notre Dame will fall because it’s only 3.21 percent black. Again, no one care about its endowment
Anonymous
08/24/2022 08:49
Subject: Re:USNEWS 2023 rankings
U of Az will become a T100
Anonymous
08/24/2022 08:24
Subject: USNEWS 2023 rankings
Williams will be 100% at 1 and Amherst at 2. The gap between the factors in which they excel per US News is too large for other LACs to beat. Expecting Pomona to fall because they had an unnaturally high percent of classes with under 20
students last year. Swat, Wellesley, and Bowdoin in 3-5.
students last year. Swat, Wellesley, and Bowdoin in 3-5.
Anonymous
08/24/2022 07:56
Subject: Re:USNEWS 2023 rankings
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Columbia may fall out of the top 10.
Columbia was removed from the 2022 ranking (tied at #2) due to recent disclosures of improper data submission to US News. Columbia University is one of a handful of elite schools that does not submit a CDS.
For the top 5, go with the 5 largest endowments (Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Princeton, MIT).
Then Penn, Chicago, Northwestern, Caltech, & Duke in some order.
Johns Hopkins and Columbia tied at #11.
Next grouping: Dartmouth, Brown, Vanderbilt, Cornell, & WashUStL.
Next 5: Rice, Notre Dame, UCLA, & Cal-Berkeley.
USC may move up from its current #27 position.
You forgot Michigan, and the Cal schools won't get the same bump given the admissions issues from the last cycle.
Also, stop trying to make Notre Dame happen.
Notre Dame has been a T20 for a very very long long time.
It's 7th on endowment. I don't see schools that will push it out of T20.
No it has not.ND was 24 in 2014.
Show me the data. My data shows it was #18 in 2014.
Here's the data I have. From this link. https://andyreiter.com/datasets/
Screenshot of sorted data of current top 25:
Anonymous
08/23/2022 22:26
Subject: Re:USNEWS 2023 rankings
Anonymous wrote:Liberal Arts Colleges (LAC) ranking guess:
I love Williams College, but I think that Williams, Amherst, Swarthmone, Pomona, Wellesley, and Carleton College are deserving of the top ranking.
Claremont McKenna is in an elite class by itself as is Harvey Mudd College.
Bowdoin College has a friendly, close-knit, elite, prep boarding school feel (more like St. Paul's School & Groton, than Andover or Exeter).
My guess:
1) Williams College
2) Amherst College
3) Pomona College
3) Swarthmore College
5) Wellesley College
6) Bowdoin College
6) Carleton College
8) Claremont McKenna College
9) Middlebury College
10) Colby College (playing the ratings game well)
10) Davidson College
10) Harvey Mudd College
13) Grinnell College
13) Wash & Lee University
15) Hamilton College
15) Haverford College
15) Colgate University
18) USMA-West Point
18) USNA--Annapolis
18) USAFA--Colorado Springs
21) Barnard College
21) Smith College
23) Wesleyan University
24) Kenyon College
25) Bryn Mawr
26) Univ. of Richmond
27) College of the Holy Cross
28) Franklin & Marshall
29) Macalester College
30) Rhodes College
31) Bates College
31) SOKA
31) Thomas Aquinas
31) Oberlin College
35) Occidental College
36) Lafayette College
37) Centre College
37) Whitman College
37) Mount Holyoke College
40) Bucknell University
41) Gettysburg College
42) Trinity College
43) Gettysburg College
44) Furman University
USNWR should remove the service academies from the LAC rankings. They are unique institutions that really aren't like traditional LACs.
Anonymous
08/23/2022 19:47
Subject: Re:USNEWS 2023 rankings
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Columbia may fall out of the top 10.
Columbia was removed from the 2022 ranking (tied at #2) due to recent disclosures of improper data submission to US News. Columbia University is one of a handful of elite schools that does not submit a CDS.
For the top 5, go with the 5 largest endowments (Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Princeton, MIT).
Then Penn, Chicago, Northwestern, Caltech, & Duke in some order.
Johns Hopkins and Columbia tied at #11.
Next grouping: Dartmouth, Brown, Vanderbilt, Cornell, & WashUinto.
Next 5: Rice, Notre Dame, UCLA, & Cal-Berkeley.
USC may move up from its current #27 position.
UCLA, Berkeley, USC, and Cornell will fall. Emory, Georgetown, Umich, UVA will rise.
Emory, Georgetown and UVA will fall. Cornell and UCLA will rise.
Let's make a bet lol. I'm 90% certain UCLA will fall unless you have some insider info you want to share.
In all serious, why do you say this? Berkeley the one with the admissions issue. UCLA only got 10,000 more applications than year before. Harder to get into. Took a few hundred less OOS. Only issue people talk about is moving to Big 10. Nothing else really changed.
Test blind.
UCs were test blind the year before and it did not change their rankings. I think some of them (UCSB, UCD) may have improved their position. There is still 6 of them in the Top 40.
Test blind does not apply until this year. Remember the rankings are 1 year behind.
NP, Test scores will not part of the methodology this year.
Your mom said that?
Anonymous
08/23/2022 19:44
Subject: Re:USNEWS 2023 rankings
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Columbia may fall out of the top 10.
Columbia was removed from the 2022 ranking (tied at #2) due to recent disclosures of improper data submission to US News. Columbia University is one of a handful of elite schools that does not submit a CDS.
For the top 5, go with the 5 largest endowments (Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Princeton, MIT).
Then Penn, Chicago, Northwestern, Caltech, & Duke in some order.
Johns Hopkins and Columbia tied at #11.
Next grouping: Dartmouth, Brown, Vanderbilt, Cornell, & WashUinto.
Next 5: Rice, Notre Dame, UCLA, & Cal-Berkeley.
USC may move up from its current #27 position.
UCLA, Berkeley, USC, and Cornell will fall. Emory, Georgetown, Umich, UVA will rise.
Emory, Georgetown and UVA will fall. Cornell and UCLA will rise.
Let's make a bet lol. I'm 90% certain UCLA will fall unless you have some insider info you want to share.
In all serious, why do you say this? Berkeley the one with the admissions issue. UCLA only got 10,000 more applications than year before. Harder to get into. Took a few hundred less OOS. Only issue people talk about is moving to Big 10. Nothing else really changed.
Test blind.
UCs were test blind the year before and it did not change their rankings. I think some of them (UCSB, UCD) may have improved their position. There is still 6 of them in the Top 40.
Test blind does not apply until this year. Remember the rankings are 1 year behind.
NP, Test scores will not part of the methodology this year.
Says who? Unless you have insider info. There's no indication of this...
https://www.usnews.com/education/blogs/college-rankings-blog/articles/2022-08-22/2022-2023-best-colleges-rankings-coming-sept-12
Anonymous
08/23/2022 19:11
Subject: Re:USNEWS 2023 rankings
Anonymous wrote:Liberal Arts Colleges (LAC) ranking guess:
I love Williams College, but I think that Williams, Amherst, Swarthmone, Pomona, Wellesley, and Carleton College are deserving of the top ranking.
Claremont McKenna is in an elite class by itself as is Harvey Mudd College.
Bowdoin College has a friendly, close-knit, elite, prep boarding school feel (more like St. Paul's School & Groton, than Andover or Exeter).
My guess:
1) Williams College
2) Amherst College
3) Pomona College
3) Swarthmore College
5) Wellesley College
6) Bowdoin College
6) Carleton College
8) Claremont McKenna College
9) Middlebury College
10) Colby College (playing the ratings game well)
10) Davidson College
10) Harvey Mudd College
13) Grinnell College
13) Wash & Lee University
15) Hamilton College
15) Haverford College
15) Colgate University
18) USMA-West Point
18) USNA--Annapolis
18) USAFA--Colorado Springs
21) Barnard College
21) Smith College
23) Wesleyan University
24) Kenyon College
25) Bryn Mawr
26) Univ. of Richmond
27) College of the Holy Cross
28) Franklin & Marshall
29) Macalester College
30) Rhodes College
31) Bates College
31) SOKA
31) Thomas Aquinas
31) Oberlin College
35) Occidental College
36) Lafayette College
37) Centre College
37) Whitman College
37) Mount Holyoke College
40) Bucknell University
41) Gettysburg College
42) Trinity College
43) Gettysburg College
44) Furman University
Wellesley is NO LOWER THAN FOUR, if not one or two.
Anonymous
08/23/2022 19:07
Subject: Re:USNEWS 2023 rankings
Anonymous wrote:Columbia may fall out of the top 10.
Columbia was removed from the 2022 ranking (tied at #2) due to recent disclosures of improper data submission to US News. Columbia University is one of a handful of elite schools that does not submit a CDS.
For the top 5, go with the 5 largest endowments (Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Princeton, MIT).
Then Penn, Chicago, Northwestern, Caltech, & Duke in some order.
Johns Hopkins and Columbia tied at #11.
Next grouping: Dartmouth, Brown, Vanderbilt, Cornell, & WashUStL.
Next 5: Rice, Notre Dame, UCLA, & Cal-Berkeley.
USC may move up from its current #27 position.
Agree.