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Anonymous wrote:I think this is so nice of you to consider, but as someone with a history of severe post partum pre-eclampsia, and in the nicest way possible, you cannot be serious.

My doctors have said I can have more kids if I want but I absolutely would NEVER put myself in that situation. Ever. In addition to the physical issues, pre-e messed with my brain, too.

Try to find another way to support your friend.

There are doctors out there who like medically complicated patients because it makes their colleagues $$$$$$$$. I think it is dubious to transfer 2 embryos unless they are crappy quality but that happens all of the time. Anyway, this is why informed consent, doing your own research and second opinions are a thing.

Yes, fair. To be clear: my doctors don’t encourage more kids but they have said it’s something I could do. Which is true. They do not seem enthusiastic at the prospect and I don’t want more kids anyway so it’s not like we’ve gone into a ton of detail.

But no way would I ever be allowed to be a surrogate despite two healthy babies born full term vaginally, and no flippin’ way would I ever advocate for myself to be one no matter how much I loved the parents.

I had a doctor offer me a VBAC with less than 1mm residual myometrium, 15% uterine rupture risk (maybe more). Oh, and he didn't tell me it was that thin. I could tell from his body language he was a BS artist.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this is so nice of you to consider, but as someone with a history of severe post partum pre-eclampsia, and in the nicest way possible, you cannot be serious.

My doctors have said I can have more kids if I want but I absolutely would NEVER put myself in that situation. Ever. In addition to the physical issues, pre-e messed with my brain, too.

Try to find another way to support your friend.

There are doctors out there who like medically complicated patients because it makes their colleagues $$$$$$$$. I think it is dubious to transfer 2 embryos unless they are crappy quality but that happens all of the time. Anyway, this is why informed consent, doing your own research and second opinions are a thing.

Yes, fair. To be clear: my doctors don’t encourage more kids but they have said it’s something I could do. Which is true. They do not seem enthusiastic at the prospect and I don’t want more kids anyway so it’s not like we’ve gone into a ton of detail.

But no way would I ever be allowed to be a surrogate despite two healthy babies born full term vaginally, and no flippin’ way would I ever advocate for myself to be one no matter how much I loved the parents.

I had a doctor offer me a VBAC with less than 1mm residual myometrium, 15% uterine rupture risk (maybe more). Oh, and he didn't tell me it was that thin. I could tell from his body language he was a BS artist.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this is so nice of you to consider, but as someone with a history of severe post partum pre-eclampsia, and in the nicest way possible, you cannot be serious.

My doctors have said I can have more kids if I want but I absolutely would NEVER put myself in that situation. Ever. In addition to the physical issues, pre-e messed with my brain, too.

Try to find another way to support your friend.

There are doctors out there who like medically complicated patients because it makes their colleagues $$$$$$$$. I think it is dubious to transfer 2 embryos unless they are crappy quality but that happens all of the time. Anyway, this is why informed consent, doing your own research and second opinions are a thing.

Yes, fair. To be clear: my doctors don’t encourage more kids but they have said it’s something I could do. Which is true. They do not seem enthusiastic at the prospect and I don’t want more kids anyway so it’s not like we’ve gone into a ton of detail.

But no way would I ever be allowed to be a surrogate despite two healthy babies born full term vaginally, and no flippin’ way would I ever advocate for myself to be one no matter how much I loved the parents.

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Anonymous wrote:Not with a history of preclempsia

This.

My cousin had 4 easy pregnancies. She had to stop after her fifth because that one she developed pre-e and it progressed and almost killed her. She had a preterm c-section and weeks in the hospital. Even now, 14 years later her kidneys are really messed up.

Was the 5th with a new partner?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this is so nice of you to consider, but as someone with a history of severe post partum pre-eclampsia, and in the nicest way possible, you cannot be serious.

My doctors have said I can have more kids if I want but I absolutely would NEVER put myself in that situation. Ever. In addition to the physical issues, pre-e messed with my brain, too.

Try to find another way to support your friend.

There are doctors out there who like medically complicated patients because it makes their colleagues $$$$$$$$. I think it is dubious to transfer 2 embryos unless they are crappy quality but that happens all of the time. Anyway, this is why informed consent, doing your own research and second opinions are a thing.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not with a history of preclempsia

This.

My cousin had 4 easy pregnancies. She had to stop after her fifth because that one she developed pre-e and it progressed and almost killed her. She had a preterm c-section and weeks in the hospital. Even now, 14 years later her kidneys are really messed up.

Anonymous wrote:Not with a history of preclempsia

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Anonymous wrote:So…you want to leave your spouse a widow, your children motherless, and present your friend with a premature baby with significant health issues— probably lifelong— in order to prove what precisely?

Because all you’re proving here is that you are an unfit parent as it is.

There are super empathetic people in this world who have no boundaries. Cut her some slack.

Where is her empathy for her own children?

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Anonymous wrote:So…you want to leave your spouse a widow, your children motherless, and present your friend with a premature baby with significant health issues— probably lifelong— in order to prove what precisely?

Because all you’re proving here is that you are an unfit parent as it is.

There are super empathetic people in this world who have no boundaries. Cut her some slack.

Anonymous wrote:I think this is so nice of you to consider, but as someone with a history of severe post partum pre-eclampsia, and in the nicest way possible, you cannot be serious.

My doctors have said I can have more kids if I want but I absolutely would NEVER put myself in that situation. Ever. In addition to the physical issues, pre-e messed with my brain, too.

Try to find another way to support your friend.

Anonymous wrote:So…you want to leave your spouse a widow, your children motherless, and present your friend with a premature baby with significant health issues— probably lifelong— in order to prove what precisely?

Because all you’re proving here is that you are an unfit parent as it is.