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Anonymous wrote:I was shocked by how many Trump signs and how much Confederate paraphernalia we saw on the Eastern shore. As common as in DH’s rural Louisiana home town.

I live off of Route 8. I see plenty of Trump stuff (probably related to Cox) but I’ve never seen any confederate anything, anywhere, ever. It’s not a confederate state. Never seen the flag on anything. Nice try though.

Anonymous wrote:The Eastern Shore has the most beautiful, candy colored sunsets. It boasts miles and miles of untouched nature conservatories and is so peaceful. It is a beautiful part of the state for rest and relaxation.

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Anonymous wrote:I was shocked by how many Trump signs and how much Confederate paraphernalia we saw on the Eastern shore. As common as in DH’s rural Louisiana home town.

I live off of Route 8. I see plenty of Trump stuff (probably related to Cox) but I’ve never seen any confederate anything, anywhere, ever. It’s not a confederate state. Never seen the flag on anything. Nice try though.

Yeah, never mind the Confederate Monument in St. Mary's.

But go off

That is southern MD not eastern MD.

The geographically illiterate are still arguing about it. Meantime, the eastern shore continues to be a pleasant And bewildering place to a lot of people. Large, historic Black population (UMES is an HBCU). New and growing Latino population for agricultural work. Some very affluent communities, some very poor ones and everything in-between. Biggest problem is the quality of schools, which makes it a good place to retire (can drive to JHU in Baltimore for serious medical care w/in 2 hours) but not so great for raising a family.

These are the descendants of people who were enslaved in the area. The "historic" areas are run down. Contrast with the Lloyd plantation, which is still owned by descendants of enslavers. I think it's eleventh generation living there.

Thanks for making this point. “Large, historic Black population “ is an interesting euphemism. Thanks for adding in the actual history that “historic” leaves out.

Something is wrong with you. Certainly a number of current Black folk in the eastern shore are directly tied to place and descended from slaves of the former plantations. There were also a number of free Blacks on the eastern shore at the time of slavery and I recommend visiting the Harriet Tubman Underground Railroad National Historic Park. The maritime museum in St Michales also does a good job of showing the Black tradition in the eastern shore closely tied to the bay and the oyster trade. There are also Black folk on the eastern shore who have moved there more recently. There is a thing called an automobile you know.

I’m quite familiar with the history of the area — and have actual Black relatives who’ve lived there — and left. None of the information that you’ve provided in any way changes the fact that many members of the population are descended from enslaved people who lived in the area. Museums don’t change that. The fact that there were also small but significant numbers of free Blacks there during the time of slavery doesn’t change that. That Black people from other areas have moved to the Eastern shore more recently doesn’t change that either.

I’m not clear what your point about “an automobile “ is intended to show. People move in. People move out. Some of those people have been Black people. None of which has anything to do with communities of Black residents who can trace the histories of their families back to ancestors who lived in the area as enslaved people on plantations — a history that you, yourself acknowledge.

What’s “wrong” about any of that? And what exactly do you think is “wrong” with me — for agreeing with historical facts that you, yourself, openly acknowledge? What’s “wrong” with you — that you think yours is the only voice that counts?

No, no! I'm the original pp who brought the history of the area up (Lloyd plantation, etc). Someone else posted rudely to you and I am offended, too. That pp has no clue what they are talking about. I have educated myself about the history of Talbott County and other areas in Md due to interest my in learning true American history. I want to understand slavery and it's impact on our society today.

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Anonymous wrote:I was shocked by how many Trump signs and how much Confederate paraphernalia we saw on the Eastern shore. As common as in DH’s rural Louisiana home town.

I live off of Route 8. I see plenty of Trump stuff (probably related to Cox) but I’ve never seen any confederate anything, anywhere, ever. It’s not a confederate state. Never seen the flag on anything. Nice try though.

Ocean View and Bethany have both!

House upon house

Aren't those in...Delaware?

This is a thread on Eastern Maryland aka the Eastern Shore, not Delaware.

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Anonymous wrote:I was shocked by how many Trump signs and how much Confederate paraphernalia we saw on the Eastern shore. As common as in DH’s rural Louisiana home town.

I live off of Route 8. I see plenty of Trump stuff (probably related to Cox) but I’ve never seen any confederate anything, anywhere, ever. It’s not a confederate state. Never seen the flag on anything. Nice try though.

Yeah, never mind the Confederate Monument in St. Mary's.

But go off

That is southern MD not eastern MD.

The geographically illiterate are still arguing about it. Meantime, the eastern shore continues to be a pleasant And bewildering place to a lot of people. Large, historic Black population (UMES is an HBCU). New and growing Latino population for agricultural work. Some very affluent communities, some very poor ones and everything in-between. Biggest problem is the quality of schools, which makes it a good place to retire (can drive to JHU in Baltimore for serious medical care w/in 2 hours) but not so great for raising a family.

These are the descendants of people who were enslaved in the area. The "historic" areas are run down. Contrast with the Lloyd plantation, which is still owned by descendants of enslavers. I think it's eleventh generation living there.

Thanks for making this point. “Large, historic Black population “ is an interesting euphemism. Thanks for adding in the actual history that “historic” leaves out.

Something is wrong with you. Certainly a number of current Black folk in the eastern shore are directly tied to place and descended from slaves of the former plantations. There were also a number of free Blacks on the eastern shore at the time of slavery and I recommend visiting the Harriet Tubman Underground Railroad National Historic Park. The maritime museum in St Michales also does a good job of showing the Black tradition in the eastern shore closely tied to the bay and the oyster trade. There are also Black folk on the eastern shore who have moved there more recently. There is a thing called an automobile you know.

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Anonymous wrote:I was shocked by how many Trump signs and how much Confederate paraphernalia we saw on the Eastern shore. As common as in DH’s rural Louisiana home town.

I live off of Route 8. I see plenty of Trump stuff (probably related to Cox) but I’ve never seen any confederate anything, anywhere, ever. It’s not a confederate state. Never seen the flag on anything. Nice try though.

Yeah, never mind the Confederate Monument in St. Mary's.

But go off

That is southern MD not eastern MD.

The geographically illiterate are still arguing about it. Meantime, the eastern shore continues to be a pleasant And bewildering place to a lot of people. Large, historic Black population (UMES is an HBCU). New and growing Latino population for agricultural work. Some very affluent communities, some very poor ones and everything in-between. Biggest problem is the quality of schools, which makes it a good place to retire (can drive to JHU in Baltimore for serious medical care w/in 2 hours) but not so great for raising a family.

These are the descendants of people who were enslaved in the area. The "historic" areas are run down. Contrast with the Lloyd plantation, which is still owned by descendants of enslavers. I think it's eleventh generation living there.

Thanks for making this point. “Large, historic Black population “ is an interesting euphemism. Thanks for adding in the actual history that “historic” leaves out.

Something is wrong with you. Certainly a number of current Black folk in the eastern shore are directly tied to place and descended from slaves of the former plantations. There were also a number of free Blacks on the eastern shore at the time of slavery and I recommend visiting the Harriet Tubman Underground Railroad National Historic Park. The maritime museum in St Michales also does a good job of showing the Black tradition in the eastern shore closely tied to the bay and the oyster trade. There are also Black folk on the eastern shore who have moved there more recently. There is a thing called an automobile you know.

I’m quite familiar with the history of the area — and have actual Black relatives who’ve lived there — and left. None of the information that you’ve provided in any way changes the fact that many members of the population are descended from enslaved people who lived in the area. Museums don’t change that. The fact that there were also small but significant numbers of free Blacks there during the time of slavery doesn’t change that. That Black people from other areas have moved to the Eastern shore more recently doesn’t change that either.

I’m not clear what your point about “an automobile “ is intended to show. People move in. People move out. Some of those people have been Black people. None of which has anything to do with communities of Black residents who can trace the histories of their families back to ancestors who lived in the area as enslaved people on plantations — a history that you, yourself acknowledge.

What’s “wrong” about any of that? And what exactly do you think is “wrong” with me — for agreeing with historical facts that you, yourself, openly acknowledge? What’s “wrong” with you — that you think yours is the only voice that counts?