Anonymous wrote:States are prohibiting teachers from talking about the history of race in America and saying “gay,” but cancel culture bullshit is what you’re worried about. Get a grip.

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of people don’t want to take responsibility for their words. Sure, you can say them—as in the instructor won’t kick you out of the class, a gang of students won’t beat you up, the university won’t expel you. But if you say something rude, insensitive, ignorant, or deliberately provocative, the natural consequences are that other people will challenge you, they won’t want to work with you or socialize with you, and the teacher will rightly assess that you are not a productive member of the class, and that might reflect on your grade if a portion of the grade is contributions to class discussions.

So, feel free to exercise your free speech. But understand that there will be consequences. Either adjust what you say and how you interact with people, or accept the consequences.

Incorrect. If you deviate from the bounds of “reasonable” conversation in class on a college campus, essentially talking as a Republican, your peers will brand you a bigot or worse.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/02/evidence-conservative-students-really-do-self-censor/606559/

Anonymous wrote:A lot of people don’t want to take responsibility for their words. Sure, you can say them—as in the instructor won’t kick you out of the class, a gang of students won’t beat you up, the university won’t expel you. But if you say something rude, insensitive, ignorant, or deliberately provocative, the natural consequences are that other people will challenge you, they won’t want to work with you or socialize with you, and the teacher will rightly assess that you are not a productive member of the class, and that might reflect on your grade if a portion of the grade is contributions to class discussions.

So, feel free to exercise your free speech. But understand that there will be consequences. Either adjust what you say and how you interact with people, or accept the consequences.

Anonymous wrote:Disagree. Stay stupid and offensive things, get canceled. That’s known as a natural consequence.

Anonymous wrote: There is no such bill. Talk about propaganda. The bill simply prevents instruction of gender identity in grades K-3. That's it. No one cares if your kid has two dads/moms, or if the teacher is LGBTQ. No one. But keep on frothing at the mouth about idiotic, non-existent.

Anonymous wrote:A lot of people don’t want to take responsibility for their words. Sure, you can say them—as in the instructor won’t kick you out of the class, a gang of students won’t beat you up, the university won’t expel you. But if you say something rude, insensitive, ignorant, or deliberately provocative, the natural consequences are that other people will challenge you, they won’t want to work with you or socialize with you, and the teacher will rightly assess that you are not a productive member of the class, and that might reflect on your grade if a portion of the grade is contributions to class discussions.

So, feel free to exercise your free speech. But understand that there will be consequences. Either adjust what you say and how you interact with people, or accept the consequences.

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Anonymous wrote:Disagree. Stay stupid and offensive things, get canceled. That’s known as a natural consequence.

"Stupid and offensive" might be read instead to mean "I don't agree, I don't like it, I don't understand it, I don't want to try to understand why others might think like that, and consequently nobody should be able to articulate it or try to make a case for it. They must be silenced at all costs lest their pernicious position be heard by those too unwise to be able to decide for themselves whether it is reasonable, makes sense, is potentially actually valid".

Wait -- this is about the Florida bill banning teachers from mentioning that families like mine exist, right? That's the kind of suppression of free speech that you are opposed to, right?

There is no such bill. Talk about propaganda. The bill simply prevents instruction of gender identity in grades K-3. That's it. No one cares if your kid has two dads/moms, or if the teacher is LGBTQ. No one. But keep on frothing at the mouth about idiotic, non-existent "suppression."
DP

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Anonymous wrote:Hate and dangerous speech is not protected. The 1st amendment comes with both regulations and responsibilities.

Except that opposing the idea of defund the police, criticizing the utter chaos at our border, and questioning the wisdom of hormone therapy and sex reassignment surgery for minors is not "hate and dangerous speech." That's the whole point - YOU don't get to label something "hate speech" simply because you disagree with it and want to silence it.

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Anonymous wrote:Hate and dangerous speech is not protected. The 1st amendment comes with both regulations and responsibilities.

Hate speech IS protected you stupid idiot. So is most dangerous speech. Where the hell did you idiots go to school. Not in the US I guess...

Anonymous wrote:Hate and dangerous speech is not protected. The 1st amendment comes with both regulations and responsibilities.

Anonymous wrote:Disagree. Stay stupid and offensive things, get canceled. That’s known as a natural consequence.

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Anonymous wrote:Disagree. Stay stupid and offensive things, get canceled. That’s known as a natural consequence.

People who think like you will ruin our society. The cancel culture is completely out of control. Colleges need to take a stand against this (like UChicago has done) and embrace free speech principles, the exchange of ideas, and discussion in the public square. That's what education and intellect is all about. Nobody can be truly educated if they only hear one side of the issue all the time. There are two sides of most issues. You calling the other side "stupid and offensive" just proves the point made in OP's post.

Sigh, OP is on a tear with trying to spam the forums with absurd WSJ propaganda. It's really sad that since being bought by Rupert Murdoch of Fox News fame, the Wall Street Journal's editorial board has become such a pathetic, incompetent, bunch of propagandists.

Meanwhile, in the real world, Republican billionaires are putting big money into trying to suppress free speech on college campuses by convincing people that anyone who dares to point out the crushingly obvious systemic racism in this country is an out-of-controll woke mob. Of course, the billionaires are panicking because they realize the young Americans will no longer put up with a country that mistreats and oppresses non-white people in every possible arena. They know that banks like Wells Fargo (that just got in trouble AGAIN in 2022 for egregiously, intentionally, wildly racist conduct) was the bank whose executives joked on tape about "junk loans for mud people" in 2012. They've seen the studies -- FUNDED BY POLICE DEPARTMENTS -- that show that police stop Black motorists more often than whites (except at night, when they can't see drivers' skin color), search Black people's cars more often than whites (despite whites being statistically slightly more likely to have drugs or guns), charge Black people with crimes like resisting arrest at rates far higher than whites who engage in identical behavior, and, of course, kill unarmed Black people far, far more often than they kill whites. And, they've seen the statistics that Blacks are convicted more often that whites with similar evidence, sentenced more harshly than whites for similar crimes, and denied parole more often than whites with similar records.

They've also likely seen the statistic that came up in OP's other pathetic WSJ propaganda post that Black people are far more likely to die when treated by white doctors than when treated by Black doctors, and they are aware that in 2022 many doctors still hold and promote crazy, unscientific, racist ideas that likely contribute to Blacks dying at a higher rate -- like the notion tha Black people don't feel pain.

But, OP feels that the most important thing they can do with their time is spam the forums about how sad it is that their right to see speeches by Nazis is being compromised. And make no mistake -- that's what the bruhahaha about "free speech" on campus is mostly about -- the Republican tactic of inviting the most offensive speakers they can find to college campuses exactly to provoke a reaction, and then to whine about "wokeness" and "free speech" -- which they clearly don't understand, since the first ammendment doesn't guarantee anybody the right to a speaking tour.

I'm not the OP of this thread, but I have posted WSJ pieces before (and will continue to do so, btw). Deal with it. Newsflash: that's not "spamming," it's simply posting pieces from one of the most well-respected news sources in the world. That you call it a "pathetic, incompetent, bunch of propagandists" speaks volumes about YOU, none of it good.

Every word in your fevered rant makes it clear it is YOU who doesn't understand what free speech is and what the first amendment guarantees. No one cares if you disagree with a speaker - you have zero right to prevent them from speaking. If you don't want to hear them, don't show up. Trying to silence them and prevent anyone else from hearing views you can't handle just makes you a complete ignoramus. "Sigh," indeed.

No, YOU are the one who doesn’t understand. The GOVERNMENT is not telling them they can’t say these things. They are experiencing natural consequences of their choice to embrace and espouse willfull ignorance. Boo hoo. Here’s a tissue.