Anonymous wrote:The wine moms don't think Greek life is cool. The horror!

The wine moms were in sororities. Keep up.

Maybe bc kids realize Greek life is bizarre and antiquated.

Anonymous wrote:Greek life is thriving though some schools are reporting less numbers for rush. There are a variety of factors. Most of the people saying their is hazing or you are paying for friend or calling our members in the life as losers have obviously never been in a frat or srat.

The connections I made as a member of the organization has served me well throughout my life. From jobs to meal trains when my parents died, some of my most dearest friends. We pick up the phone and the conversation just picks right up. I’ve served as a student advisor, I’ve helped fund raise both for the chapter, the national chapter and the charity.

Most comments just sound like jealousy from those who were dropped.

Today’s Greek life is not what you had in college.

This is the attitude I loathe.

Anonymous wrote:The issue is that "interviewing" for 5-10 minutes, being evaluated and judged (and possibly rejected), all in the first weeks of arriving at college, is unhealthy and toxic. It can be very confidence-shaking for even very well-adjusted kids. The whole system of pay to play for friends is for the deeply insecure and those who thrive on exclusion rather than grace and inclusivity.

+1

Different take....there are more kids concerned with the financial sacrifices associated with attending college and don't want to waste time and money with greek life.

Also, fewer republicans are attending college in general, and that was most of the greek "base"

Greek life is thriving though some schools are reporting less numbers for rush. There are a variety of factors. Most of the people saying their is hazing or you are paying for friend or calling our members in the life as losers have obviously never been in a frat or srat.

The connections I made as a member of the organization has served me well throughout my life. From jobs to meal trains when my parents died, some of my most dearest friends. We pick up the phone and the conversation just picks right up. I’ve served as a student advisor, I’ve helped fund raise both for the chapter, the national chapter and the charity.

Most comments just sound like jealousy from those who were dropped.

Today’s Greek life is not what you had in college.

Anonymous wrote:The issue is that "interviewing" for 5-10 minutes, being evaluated and judged (and possibly rejected), all in the first weeks of arriving at college, is unhealthy and toxic. It can be very confidence-shaking for even very well-adjusted kids. The whole system of pay to play for friends is for the deeply insecure and those who thrive on exclusion rather than grace and inclusivity.

Because life will never be like this once they get out of college.

Anonymous wrote:It’s completely out of vogue. The only kids I know interested in Greek life are, for lack of a better term, losers. Kids who have to pay to make friends.

Yeah, sure Jan. At my Big Ten school, which was only 10% Greek when I was there, Greek life has exploded in popularity. The pledge classes are now almost the size that the entire house was during my time. They even had to add two new sororities. Newsflash: kids want to meet people and have fun organized activities. They don’t want to be 18 going on 45 like I am guessing you were.

Anonymous wrote:It’s also simply not seen as a “cool” thing anymore among the newest generation.

You keep telling yourself that. So if that's what you think, why so much emphasis on THIS board about kids looking to avoid schools with a Greek system (and how hard it is to actually find a school that does not have greek life)? Sounds like in fact those kids would be the cool kids at that school should not be threatened by greek life.

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Anonymous wrote:I am more inclined to agree with the posters thinking it's about Covid

However, I am grateful that neither of our children are interested in joining Greek life, and both are at schools where that doesn't matter. Paying for friends, and going through hazing (aka, risking your life), so not worth it.

not going to argue with you anti greek people, yet again on this board because it does not matter a lick to me what your kids decide to do. BUT my kids are both greek (sorority and fraternity) and neither was hazed in anyway, certainly nothing life threatening or even close. My DS was never even drunk during his pledging, never pressured to drink or do anything he didn't think was fun. You can't paint the whole greek system with the same brush.

Sure mom, because your kids share everything with you

They do actually. I have a great relationship with my kids - sorry that you do not. My DS in particular was not sold on the whole idea even after accepting a bid and said that if he was ever uncomfortable during pledging, he'd drop. We spoke about it often. I do know people who dropped other frats but no one from my son's and again he thought the whole thing was fun, if a bit long (wasn't initiated until end of school).

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Anonymous wrote:I am more inclined to agree with the posters thinking it's about Covid

However, I am grateful that neither of our children are interested in joining Greek life, and both are at schools where that doesn't matter. Paying for friends, and going through hazing (aka, risking your life), so not worth it.

not going to argue with you anti greek people, yet again on this board because it does not matter a lick to me what your kids decide to do. BUT my kids are both greek (sorority and fraternity) and neither was hazed in anyway, certainly nothing life threatening or even close. My DS was never even drunk during his pledging, never pressured to drink or do anything he didn't think was fun. You can't paint the whole greek system with the same brush.

Sure mom, because your kids share everything with you

The fact is that in this day and age, willingly joining a frat or srat reads as tone deaf, tryhard, and old fashioned.

The issue is that "interviewing" for 5-10 minutes, being evaluated and judged (and possibly rejected), all in the first weeks of arriving at college, is unhealthy and toxic. It can be very confidence-shaking for even very well-adjusted kids. The whole system of pay to play for friends is for the deeply insecure and those who thrive on exclusion rather than grace and inclusivity.

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This still gives me nightmares.

Hahaha omfg that can’t be real. Is that a parody or a satirical bit? That can’t be an actual sorority… right?

what are they saying?

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Anonymous wrote:The wine moms don't think Greek life is cool. The horror!

Have you talked to anyone under the age of 30? No one thinks it’s “cool”. Get over it, Hitler Youth Hillary.

Bless your heart.

Oh heavens, my!