Anonymous
08/02/2022 09:29
Subject: New Beyonce album today!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Lord, they forced her to remove the word "spazzin" from one of her new songs. The lyric is "Spazzin on that azz". Ridiculous!
There's really no excuse though. The disability community already went through this with Lizzo, who responded appropriately. How can you possibly say you didn't know?
You don't *have* to care about using hurtful words, though. It's your choice to decide not to worry about it and leave it as is. Take a known shot at people with a disability? Go for it. If that's your choice. But to claim she didn't know is utter BS. And to claim it's not a slur to many is also BS. She just thought, hey, I'm queen whatever they call her.
Wtf?
Now we can’t use “spaz” or “spazzin” ???
When did this start?
Aww. I'm so sorry, are you going to be OK? I know, it's such a hard thing to take, when you can't use your slurs the way you want to. Really, it's going to be OK. You can still say them in your head if that gets you through the day.
Anonymous
08/02/2022 05:10
Subject: New Beyonce album today!
That Lizzo situation happened weeks before B dropped her album, you don’t know what she did or didn’t know.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She wasn't taking a shot at people with disabilities. In slang it means 'going off'. She wasn't using it to refer to anyone with a disability.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Lord, they forced her to remove the word "spazzin" from one of her new songs. The lyric is "Spazzin on that azz". Ridiculous!
There's really no excuse though. The disability community already went through this with Lizzo, who responded appropriately. How can you possibly say you didn't know?
You don't *have* to care about using hurtful words, though. It's your choice to decide not to worry about it and leave it as is. Take a known shot at people with a disability? Go for it. If that's your choice. But to claim she didn't know is utter BS. And to claim it's not a slur to many is also BS. She just thought, hey, I'm queen whatever they call her.
Once the whole Lizzo thing went around, she knew. At that point, it became a known shot. It wasn't even "well, it wasn't exactly the same, give her a break." It was the. Exact. Same. Word. The. Disability. Community. Told. Everyone. Is. Offensive. It can be pretty dicey if you want to start deciding when some people's intent is more important than the negative impact words have. They're *telling* all of us very clearly it's harmful. Why would you defend a slur?? Once anyone tells me a word is offensive (not to just to one person, but to an entire community of people) I do them the courtesy of not using it.
Anonymous
08/02/2022 01:32
Subject: Re:New Beyonce album today!
If you enjoyed those singers and that show why not start a thread? This has nothing to do with Beyoncé or her new album.Anonymous wrote:We saw Mean Girls at Bass Hall in Fort Worth Texas. Those women in the top 5 singers blow Beyoncé away vocally. Those singer/ dancers are so incredibly talented!!!!
Anonymous
08/01/2022 22:52
Subject: Re:New Beyonce album today!
We saw Mean Girls at Bass Hall in Fort Worth Texas. Those women in the top 5 singers blow Beyoncé away vocally. Those singer/ dancers are so incredibly talented!!!!
Anonymous
08/01/2022 22:47
Subject: New Beyonce album today!
How is spaz a problem but the n word ok. The world has gone crazy.
Anonymous
08/01/2022 21:22
Subject: New Beyonce album today!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Lord, they forced her to remove the word "spazzin" from one of her new songs. The lyric is "Spazzin on that azz". Ridiculous!
There's really no excuse though. The disability community already went through this with Lizzo, who responded appropriately. How can you possibly say you didn't know?
You don't *have* to care about using hurtful words, though. It's your choice to decide not to worry about it and leave it as is. Take a known shot at people with a disability? Go for it. If that's your choice. But to claim she didn't know is utter BS. And to claim it's not a slur to many is also BS. She just thought, hey, I'm queen whatever they call her.
Wtf?
Now we can’t use “spaz” or “spazzin” ???
When did this start?
Anonymous
08/01/2022 20:04
Subject: New Beyonce album today!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She wasn't taking a shot at people with disabilities. In slang it means 'going off'. She wasn't using it to refer to anyone with a disability.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Lord, they forced her to remove the word "spazzin" from one of her new songs. The lyric is "Spazzin on that azz". Ridiculous!
There's really no excuse though. The disability community already went through this with Lizzo, who responded appropriately. How can you possibly say you didn't know?
You don't *have* to care about using hurtful words, though. It's your choice to decide not to worry about it and leave it as is. Take a known shot at people with a disability? Go for it. If that's your choice. But to claim she didn't know is utter BS. And to claim it's not a slur to many is also BS. She just thought, hey, I'm queen whatever they call her.
NP. I am fifty and that’s how I have always known the word to be used. However, I get that words mean different things to different groups of people. With that said, If it is now accepted as a derogatory word to a much maligned group, I think the word should be buried and not used again.
DP. I agree that the word should be buried. But re: the bold, please understand that it doesn't just "mean different things to different people."
It's NOT a matter of oh, well, it's interpreted differently now, the interpretation changed, time to retire it.
The term is a shortened version of the formal medical name of a condition, spastic cerebral palsy. It was always derived directly from the name of the condition. It was always a mocking slur. Not something to wishy-washily think of as simply meaning different things to different people at different times.
Anonymous
08/01/2022 19:57
Subject: New Beyonce album today!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She wasn't taking a shot at people with disabilities. In slang it means 'going off'. She wasn't using it to refer to anyone with a disability.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Lord, they forced her to remove the word "spazzin" from one of her new songs. The lyric is "Spazzin on that azz". Ridiculous!
There's really no excuse though. The disability community already went through this with Lizzo, who responded appropriately. How can you possibly say you didn't know?
You don't *have* to care about using hurtful words, though. It's your choice to decide not to worry about it and leave it as is. Take a known shot at people with a disability? Go for it. If that's your choice. But to claim she didn't know is utter BS. And to claim it's not a slur to many is also BS. She just thought, hey, I'm queen whatever they call her.
Once the whole Lizzo thing went around, she knew. At that point, it became a known shot. It wasn't even "well, it wasn't exactly the same, give her a break." It was the. Exact. Same. Word. The. Disability. Community. Told. Everyone. Is. Offensive. It can be pretty dicey if you want to start deciding when some people's intent is more important than the negative impact words have. They're *telling* all of us very clearly it's harmful. Why would you defend a slur?? Once anyone tells me a word is offensive (not to just to one person, but to an entire community of people) I do them the courtesy of not using it.
+1,000 to PP above. She knew. If she somehow didn't (hard to believe), her team knew.
The poster who is trying to defend the use of the term, after it was SO widely covered re: Lizzo's song, is just flat-out wrong. Beyonce and her producing and writing team exhibit profound, bone-deep arrogance for not going back and removing that term the instant the Lizzo coverage hit the media. That was well before Beyonce's new album dropped; they had time to fix it, but didn't.
Just pure arrogance, to shrug it off or pretend they somehow forgot the term was there.
Anonymous
08/01/2022 18:28
Subject: New Beyonce album today!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She wasn't taking a shot at people with disabilities. In slang it means 'going off'. She wasn't using it to refer to anyone with a disability.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Lord, they forced her to remove the word "spazzin" from one of her new songs. The lyric is "Spazzin on that azz". Ridiculous!
There's really no excuse though. The disability community already went through this with Lizzo, who responded appropriately. How can you possibly say you didn't know?
You don't *have* to care about using hurtful words, though. It's your choice to decide not to worry about it and leave it as is. Take a known shot at people with a disability? Go for it. If that's your choice. But to claim she didn't know is utter BS. And to claim it's not a slur to many is also BS. She just thought, hey, I'm queen whatever they call her.
Once the whole Lizzo thing went around, she knew. At that point, it became a known shot. It wasn't even "well, it wasn't exactly the same, give her a break." It was the. Exact. Same. Word. The. Disability. Community. Told. Everyone. Is. Offensive. It can be pretty dicey if you want to start deciding when some people's intent is more important than the negative impact words have. They're *telling* all of us very clearly it's harmful. Why would you defend a slur?? Once anyone tells me a word is offensive (not to just to one person, but to an entire community of people) I do them the courtesy of not using it.
Bey has an entire album of words to take a look at. As a PP said, one step forward and two back.
Anonymous
08/01/2022 18:24
Subject: New Beyonce album today!
Anonymous wrote:She wasn't taking a shot at people with disabilities. In slang it means 'going off'. She wasn't using it to refer to anyone with a disability.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Lord, they forced her to remove the word "spazzin" from one of her new songs. The lyric is "Spazzin on that azz". Ridiculous!
There's really no excuse though. The disability community already went through this with Lizzo, who responded appropriately. How can you possibly say you didn't know?
You don't *have* to care about using hurtful words, though. It's your choice to decide not to worry about it and leave it as is. Take a known shot at people with a disability? Go for it. If that's your choice. But to claim she didn't know is utter BS. And to claim it's not a slur to many is also BS. She just thought, hey, I'm queen whatever they call her.
Once the whole Lizzo thing went around, she knew. At that point, it became a known shot. It wasn't even "well, it wasn't exactly the same, give her a break." It was the. Exact. Same. Word. The. Disability. Community. Told. Everyone. Is. Offensive. It can be pretty dicey if you want to start deciding when some people's intent is more important than the negative impact words have. They're *telling* all of us very clearly it's harmful. Why would you defend a slur?? Once anyone tells me a word is offensive (not to just to one person, but to an entire community of people) I do them the courtesy of not using it.
Anonymous
08/01/2022 15:28
Subject: New Beyonce album today!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The album sucks. It's shapeless and dull. I also can't get behind a woman in her 40s writing songs with the N word in them in the year 2022. Let's advance beyond that.
This.
And put some damn clothes on.
Not the best lyrics IMO
Anonymous
08/01/2022 15:27
Subject: New Beyonce album today!
Anonymous wrote:She wasn't taking a shot at people with disabilities. In slang it means 'going off'. She wasn't using it to refer to anyone with a disability.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Lord, they forced her to remove the word "spazzin" from one of her new songs. The lyric is "Spazzin on that azz". Ridiculous!
There's really no excuse though. The disability community already went through this with Lizzo, who responded appropriately. How can you possibly say you didn't know?
You don't *have* to care about using hurtful words, though. It's your choice to decide not to worry about it and leave it as is. Take a known shot at people with a disability? Go for it. If that's your choice. But to claim she didn't know is utter BS. And to claim it's not a slur to many is also BS. She just thought, hey, I'm queen whatever they call her.
NP. I am fifty and that’s how I have always known the word to be used. However, I get that words mean different things to different groups of people. With that said, If it is now accepted as a derogatory word to a much maligned group, I think the word should be buried and not used again.
Anonymous
08/01/2022 14:58
Subject: New Beyonce album today!
Anonymous wrote:The album sucks. It's shapeless and dull. I also can't get behind a woman in her 40s writing songs with the N word in them in the year 2022. Let's advance beyond that.
This.
And put some damn clothes on.
Anonymous
08/01/2022 14:29
Subject: New Beyonce album today!
She wasn't taking a shot at people with disabilities. In slang it means 'going off'. She wasn't using it to refer to anyone with a disability.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Lord, they forced her to remove the word "spazzin" from one of her new songs. The lyric is "Spazzin on that azz". Ridiculous!
There's really no excuse though. The disability community already went through this with Lizzo, who responded appropriately. How can you possibly say you didn't know?
You don't *have* to care about using hurtful words, though. It's your choice to decide not to worry about it and leave it as is. Take a known shot at people with a disability? Go for it. If that's your choice. But to claim she didn't know is utter BS. And to claim it's not a slur to many is also BS. She just thought, hey, I'm queen whatever they call her.
Anonymous
08/01/2022 14:26
Subject: New Beyonce album today!
Anonymous wrote:Lord, they forced her to remove the word "spazzin" from one of her new songs. The lyric is "Spazzin on that azz". Ridiculous!
There's really no excuse though. The disability community already went through this with Lizzo, who responded appropriately. How can you possibly say you didn't know?
You don't *have* to care about using hurtful words, though. It's your choice to decide not to worry about it and leave it as is. Take a known shot at people with a disability? Go for it. If that's your choice. But to claim she didn't know is utter BS. And to claim it's not a slur to many is also BS. She just thought, hey, I'm queen whatever they call her.