Anonymous
07/21/2022 15:27
Subject: Re:How big a deal are the recent teacher involuntary transfers?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's a big deal. It's not like every school is the same commute or administration. It can impact a family, before care, after care, and so many other things. These placements should be determined in the spring, not one month before returning to work. If MCPS doesn't want to lose more teachers, they should be considerate. Ask for volunteers. Allow for these teachers to resign without prejudice so they can go to another county (if desired). Follow the staffing guidelines set forth each year. Anyone saying it's not a big deal have no idea how this can become a huge issue for teachers.
There are schools where projected enrollments can differ a lot from actual enrollment. The county needs the flexibility to be able to move teachers around. All this bellyaching just makes it seem like teachers and the teacher's union don't care about kids. If a teacher doesn't like the policy they are welcome to leave.
The policy, as agreed to in the collective bargaining agreement, seems to be that notice has to be given no later than Feb 28.
Anonymous
07/21/2022 15:19
Subject: Re:How big a deal are the recent teacher involuntary transfers?
Anonymous wrote:It’s beyond unfair that teachers at this point are not permitted to resign without violating their contract, but the district can violate it all it wants — and force them to work next year at a different school?
GTFO.
Anonymous
07/21/2022 15:18
Subject: Re:How big a deal are the recent teacher involuntary transfers?
Anonymous wrote:It's a big deal. It's not like every school is the same commute or administration. It can impact a family, before care, after care, and so many other things. These placements should be determined in the spring, not one month before returning to work. If MCPS doesn't want to lose more teachers, they should be considerate. Ask for volunteers. Allow for these teachers to resign without prejudice so they can go to another county (if desired). Follow the staffing guidelines set forth each year. Anyone saying it's not a big deal have no idea how this can become a huge issue for teachers.
There are schools where projected enrollments can differ a lot from actual enrollment. The county needs the flexibility to be able to move teachers around. All this bellyaching just makes it seem like teachers and the teacher's union don't care about kids. If a teacher doesn't like the policy they are welcome to leave.
Anonymous
07/21/2022 15:06
Subject: Re:How big a deal are the recent teacher involuntary transfers?
Anonymous wrote:First they drop CareFirst BC/BS, and now this. Yet more of Dr. McKnight's "New Beginning" for us teachers. She should save her breath and simply give us one of these 🖕
“New Beginning”. “Leader in Me.” What’s next? A “Giving Tree” Reference? This admin does not seem to have any desire in showing appreciation for the greatest assets in the school system, the teachers.
Anonymous
07/21/2022 15:03
Subject: Re:How big a deal are the recent teacher involuntary transfers?
It’s beyond unfair that teachers at this point are not permitted to resign without violating their contract, but the district can violate it all it wants — and force them to work next year at a different school?
Anonymous
07/21/2022 14:56
Subject: Re:How big a deal are the recent teacher involuntary transfers?
I left the county because I was part time and knew my position would always be vulnerable. I just wanted to put down roots somewhere.
Anonymous
07/21/2022 14:20
Subject: Re:How big a deal are the recent teacher involuntary transfers?
Anonymous wrote:It's a big deal. It's not like every school is the same commute or administration. It can impact a family, before care, after care, and so many other things. These placements should be determined in the spring, not one month before returning to work. If MCPS doesn't want to lose more teachers, they should be considerate. Ask for volunteers. Allow for these teachers to resign without prejudice so they can go to another county (if desired). Follow the staffing guidelines set forth each year. Anyone saying it's not a big deal have no idea how this can become a huge issue for teachers.
+1 huge difference in job satisfaction and effectiveness
Anonymous
07/21/2022 14:08
Subject: Re:How big a deal are the recent teacher involuntary transfers?
It's a big deal. It's not like every school is the same commute or administration. It can impact a family, before care, after care, and so many other things. These placements should be determined in the spring, not one month before returning to work. If MCPS doesn't want to lose more teachers, they should be considerate. Ask for volunteers. Allow for these teachers to resign without prejudice so they can go to another county (if desired). Follow the staffing guidelines set forth each year. Anyone saying it's not a big deal have no idea how this can become a huge issue for teachers.
Anonymous
07/21/2022 14:05
Subject: How big a deal are the recent teacher involuntary transfers?
Anonymous wrote:Whats worse is when you dont want to be transferred but you are informed in the spring, do you get a new job within the district and you change your headspace and mindset, then they call you in the summer asking if you want to come back. It's a mindf*ck.
+1 This happened to me. I was called and told my position was reinstated. They gave me a few days to think about it. By the next day, the position was gone again.
Anonymous
07/21/2022 14:01
Subject: How big a deal are the recent teacher involuntary transfers?
Whats worse is when you dont want to be transferred but you are informed in the spring, do you get a new job within the district and you change your headspace and mindset, then they call you in the summer asking if you want to come back. It's a mindf*ck.
Anonymous
07/21/2022 13:58
Subject: How big a deal are the recent teacher involuntary transfers?
Anonymous wrote: I'm worried we're going to lose even more teachers.
Plan on this for the foreseeable future. I don’t know of any district that isn’t losing staff. Now, how much fanning of the flames should we expect?
Anonymous
07/21/2022 13:56
Subject: How big a deal are the recent teacher involuntary transfers?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Apparently MCPS involuntarily transferred teachers in the last few weeks. Which violates their contract. How many were affected and will MCPS have to roll that back since it violates the mcea contract? I do understand why they moved teachers from overstaffed to understaffed schools. From the report I heard on the news, I think it was WUSA maybe, Sherwood high school was particularly impacted.
I am an MCPS teacher, and involuntary transfers are not against the contract. If your school loses teacher positions, they transfer teachers, and they start with the teachers who have the least amount of years in MCPS. It happens all the time, so I am not sure why this is any different than in previous years.
Apparently teachers are supposed to be notified by Feb 28. MCPS is almost 5 months late.
Yes they are required when there are know that positions will be cut at that time. However, there are always other positions cut throughout the summer. They have to have specific numbers to make the cuts and if it happens over the summer they have to move teachers. This happens every year, maybe not I. This scale, but it is nothing new.
Is that allowable under the CBA?
Anonymous
07/21/2022 13:53
Subject: How big a deal are the recent teacher involuntary transfers?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Apparently MCPS involuntarily transferred teachers in the last few weeks. Which violates their contract. How many were affected and will MCPS have to roll that back since it violates the mcea contract? I do understand why they moved teachers from overstaffed to understaffed schools. From the report I heard on the news, I think it was WUSA maybe, Sherwood high school was particularly impacted.
I am an MCPS teacher, and involuntary transfers are not against the contract. If your school loses teacher positions, they transfer teachers, and they start with the teachers who have the least amount of years in MCPS. It happens all the time, so I am not sure why this is any different than in previous years.
Apparently teachers are supposed to be notified by Feb 28. MCPS is almost 5 months late.
Yes they are required when there are know that positions will be cut at that time. However, there are always other positions cut throughout the summer. They have to have specific numbers to make the cuts and if it happens over the summer they have to move teachers. This happens every year, maybe not I. This scale, but it is nothing new.
Anonymous
07/21/2022 13:47
Subject: Re:How big a deal are the recent teacher involuntary transfers?
First they drop CareFirst BC/BS, and now this. Yet more of Dr. McKnight's "New Beginning" for us teachers. She should save her breath and simply give us one of these 🖕
Anonymous
07/21/2022 13:46
Subject: How big a deal are the recent teacher involuntary transfers?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Apparently MCPS involuntarily transferred teachers in the last few weeks. Which violates their contract. How many were affected and will MCPS have to roll that back since it violates the mcea contract? I do understand why they moved teachers from overstaffed to understaffed schools. From the report I heard on the news, I think it was WUSA maybe, Sherwood high school was particularly impacted.
I am an MCPS teacher, and involuntary transfers are not against the contract. If your school loses teacher positions, they transfer teachers, and they start with the teachers who have the least amount of years in MCPS. It happens all the time, so I am not sure why this is any different than in previous years.
Apparently teachers are supposed to be notified by Feb 28. MCPS is almost 5 months late.