Anonymous
07/19/2022 12:35
Subject: US College Rankings, from the perspective of a college student
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't why people spend so much effort on these rankings. It's very simple. There are the Ivies and then there's everyone else, including the SLACs, ranked from 1 to 30.
No one cares about the lower half of the Ivies. Don't kid yourself.
Lower half of the Ivies is still at a very high level no matter how you kid yourself.
There is no such thing as lower ranked or higher ranked Ivies. They are grouped together and analyzed as a collective. They are all top quality providing world class education.
And analyzed as a collective, there are certainly several universities that are at their level and/or even *gasp* surpass them.
Collectively surpass ivies? Source?
I can see MIT/Caltech surpassing ivies but these are niche universities. They may own ivies in engineering , but ivies own them in liberal arts. JHU all by itself may own ivies in the medical field, but it can't compete with ivies in liberal arts. Julliard/New England Conservatory/Curtis/Oberlin own them in arts and music, but they can't compete with ivies in liberal arts.
DP. As a collective, I find the 8-or-so best non-Ivies to be more impressive than the 8 Ivies, collectives, to be honest.
T16 > T10
Strange DCUM math.
Stanford, MIT, Chicago, Duke, Northwestern, Hopkins, Caltech, Berkeley > Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, Penn, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth
Anonymous
07/19/2022 12:29
Subject: US College Rankings, from the perspective of a college student
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't why people spend so much effort on these rankings. It's very simple. There are the Ivies and then there's everyone else, including the SLACs, ranked from 1 to 30.
No one cares about the lower half of the Ivies. Don't kid yourself.
Lower half of the Ivies is still at a very high level no matter how you kid yourself.
There is no such thing as lower ranked or higher ranked Ivies. They are grouped together and analyzed as a collective. They are all top quality providing world class education.
And analyzed as a collective, there are certainly several universities that are at their level and/or even *gasp* surpass them.
Collectively surpass ivies? Source?
I can see MIT/Caltech surpassing ivies but these are niche universities. They may own ivies in engineering , but ivies own them in liberal arts. JHU all by itself may own ivies in the medical field, but it can't compete with ivies in liberal arts. Julliard/New England Conservatory/Curtis/Oberlin own them in arts and music, but they can't compete with ivies in liberal arts.
DP. As a collective, I find the 8-or-so best non-Ivies to be more impressive than the 8 Ivies, collectives, to be honest.
T16 > T10
Strange DCUM math.
T16 CS >>> T10 History
Anonymous
07/19/2022 12:19
Subject: US College Rankings, from the perspective of a college student
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't why people spend so much effort on these rankings. It's very simple. There are the Ivies and then there's everyone else, including the SLACs, ranked from 1 to 30.
No one cares about the lower half of the Ivies. Don't kid yourself.
Lower half of the Ivies is still at a very high level no matter how you kid yourself.
There is no such thing as lower ranked or higher ranked Ivies. They are grouped together and analyzed as a collective. They are all top quality providing world class education.
And analyzed as a collective, there are certainly several universities that are at their level and/or even *gasp* surpass them.
Collectively surpass ivies? Source?
I can see MIT/Caltech surpassing ivies but these are niche universities. They may own ivies in engineering , but ivies own them in liberal arts. JHU all by itself may own ivies in the medical field, but it can't compete with ivies in liberal arts. Julliard/New England Conservatory/Curtis/Oberlin own them in arts and music, but they can't compete with ivies in liberal arts.
DP. As a collective, I find the 8-or-so best non-Ivies to be more impressive than the 8 Ivies, collectives, to be honest.
T16 > T10
Strange DCUM math.
Anonymous
07/19/2022 12:06
Subject: US College Rankings, from the perspective of a college student
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't why people spend so much effort on these rankings. It's very simple. There are the Ivies and then there's everyone else, including the SLACs, ranked from 1 to 30.
No one cares about the lower half of the Ivies. Don't kid yourself.
Lower half of the Ivies is still at a very high level no matter how you kid yourself.
There is no such thing as lower ranked or higher ranked Ivies. They are grouped together and analyzed as a collective. They are all top quality providing world class education.
And analyzed as a collective, there are certainly several universities that are at their level and/or even *gasp* surpass them.
Collectively surpass ivies? Source?
I can see MIT/Caltech surpassing ivies but these are niche universities. They may own ivies in engineering , but ivies own them in liberal arts. JHU all by itself may own ivies in the medical field, but it can't compete with ivies in liberal arts. Julliard/New England Conservatory/Curtis/Oberlin own them in arts and music, but they can't compete with ivies in liberal arts.
Engineering/STEM/Medical >>>>>>>>>>> Liberal arts
It is not a contest between STEM and the liberal arts because, as many don't realize, STEM are liberal arts discipline themselves. That being said, DCUM has hyped up the Ivy League colleges to mythical status.
Anonymous
07/19/2022 11:37
Subject: Re:US College Rankings, from the perspective of a college student
Anonymous wrote:If you check out her early videos, she was rejected or waitlisted from many of these top schools and was pretty bitter about attending her UC for the first year or so (my kid watches her videos). It's a good lesson in getting over disappointment and making the most of the opportunities that are available to you, so I hope kids watching her have that takeaway. Coming from PA/Midwest, I was surprised to see how competitive and stressful her HS experience of applying to college and receiving decisions was and how bitter (and somewhat entitled) that environment of overachieving and competition can make 18 year olds. It was news to me that kids felt disappointed by UCLA and UCB and snarked about or harbored resentment for kids who did get in, whom they perceived to be less competitive.
This is very, very common among UC Berkeley students.
Anonymous
07/19/2022 11:16
Subject: Re:US College Rankings, from the perspective of a college student
If you check out her early videos, she was rejected or waitlisted from many of these top schools and was pretty bitter about attending her UC for the first year or so (my kid watches her videos). It's a good lesson in getting over disappointment and making the most of the opportunities that are available to you, so I hope kids watching her have that takeaway. Coming from PA/Midwest, I was surprised to see how competitive and stressful her HS experience of applying to college and receiving decisions was and how bitter (and somewhat entitled) that environment of overachieving and competition can make 18 year olds. It was news to me that kids felt disappointed by UCLA and UCB and snarked about or harbored resentment for kids who did get in, whom they perceived to be less competitive.
Anonymous
07/19/2022 11:10
Subject: US College Rankings, from the perspective of a college student
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't why people spend so much effort on these rankings. It's very simple. There are the Ivies and then there's everyone else, including the SLACs, ranked from 1 to 30.
No one cares about the lower half of the Ivies. Don't kid yourself.
Lower half of the Ivies is still at a very high level no matter how you kid yourself.
There is no such thing as lower ranked or higher ranked Ivies. They are grouped together and analyzed as a collective. They are all top quality providing world class education.
And analyzed as a collective, there are certainly several universities that are at their level and/or even *gasp* surpass them.
Collectively surpass ivies? Source?
I can see MIT/Caltech surpassing ivies but these are niche universities. They may own ivies in engineering , but ivies own them in liberal arts. JHU all by itself may own ivies in the medical field, but it can't compete with ivies in liberal arts. Julliard/New England Conservatory/Curtis/Oberlin own them in arts and music, but they can't compete with ivies in liberal arts.
Engineering/STEM/Medical >>>>>>>>>>> Liberal arts
Anonymous
07/19/2022 11:09
Subject: US College Rankings, from the perspective of a college student
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't why people spend so much effort on these rankings. It's very simple. There are the Ivies and then there's everyone else, including the SLACs, ranked from 1 to 30.
No one cares about the lower half of the Ivies. Don't kid yourself.
Lower half of the Ivies is still at a very high level no matter how you kid yourself.
There is no such thing as lower ranked or higher ranked Ivies. They are grouped together and analyzed as a collective. They are all top quality providing world class education.
And analyzed as a collective, there are certainly several universities that are at their level and/or even *gasp* surpass them.
Collectively surpass ivies? Source?
I can see MIT/Caltech surpassing ivies but these are niche universities. They may own ivies in engineering , but ivies own them in liberal arts. JHU all by itself may own ivies in the medical field, but it can't compete with ivies in liberal arts. Julliard/New England Conservatory/Curtis/Oberlin own them in arts and music, but they can't compete with ivies in liberal arts.
DP. As a collective, I find the 8-or-so best non-Ivies to be more impressive than the 8 Ivies, collectives, to be honest.
Anonymous
07/19/2022 10:59
Subject: US College Rankings, from the perspective of a college student
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't why people spend so much effort on these rankings. It's very simple. There are the Ivies and then there's everyone else, including the SLACs, ranked from 1 to 30.
No one cares about the lower half of the Ivies. Don't kid yourself.
Lower half of the Ivies is still at a very high level no matter how you kid yourself.
There is no such thing as lower ranked or higher ranked Ivies. They are grouped together and analyzed as a collective. They are all top quality providing world class education.
And analyzed as a collective, there are certainly several universities that are at their level and/or even *gasp* surpass them.
Collectively surpass ivies? Source?
I can see MIT/Caltech surpassing ivies but these are niche universities. They may own ivies in engineering , but ivies own them in liberal arts. JHU all by itself may own ivies in the medical field, but it can't compete with ivies in liberal arts. Julliard/New England Conservatory/Curtis/Oberlin own them in arts and music, but they can't compete with ivies in liberal arts.
Anonymous
07/19/2022 10:59
Subject: US College Rankings, from the perspective of a college student
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't why people spend so much effort on these rankings. It's very simple. There are the Ivies and then there's everyone else, including the SLACs, ranked from 1 to 30.
No one cares about the lower half of the Ivies. Don't kid yourself.
Lower half of the Ivies is still at a very high level no matter how you kid yourself.
There is no such thing as lower ranked or higher ranked Ivies. They are grouped together and analyzed as a collective. They are all top quality providing world class education.
Collectively surpass ivies? Source?
I can see MIT/Caltech surpassing ivies but these are niche universities. They may own ivies in engineering , but ivies own them in liberal arts. JHU all by itself may own ivies in the medical field, but it can't compete with ivies in liberal arts. Julliard/New England Conservatory/Curtis/Oberlin own them in arts and music, but they can't compete with ivies in liberal arts.
And analyzed as a collective, there are certainly several universities that are at their level and/or even *gasp* surpass them.
Anonymous
07/19/2022 10:38
Subject: US College Rankings, from the perspective of a college student
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't why people spend so much effort on these rankings. It's very simple. There are the Ivies and then there's everyone else, including the SLACs, ranked from 1 to 30.
No one cares about the lower half of the Ivies. Don't kid yourself.
Lower half of the Ivies is still at a very high level no matter how you kid yourself.
There is no such thing as lower ranked or higher ranked Ivies. They are grouped together and analyzed as a collective. They are all top quality providing world class education.
And analyzed as a collective, there are certainly several universities that are at their level and/or even *gasp* surpass them.
Anonymous
07/19/2022 09:42
Subject: US College Rankings, from the perspective of a college student
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't why people spend so much effort on these rankings. It's very simple. There are the Ivies and then there's everyone else, including the SLACs, ranked from 1 to 30.
No one cares about the lower half of the Ivies. Don't kid yourself.
Lower half of the Ivies is still at a very high level no matter how you kid yourself.
There is no such thing as lower ranked or higher ranked Ivies. They are grouped together and analyzed as a collective. They are all top quality providing world class education.
Anonymous
07/18/2022 23:33
Subject: US College Rankings, from the perspective of a college student
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm already annoyed with her after about 2 minutes in
Exactly. Can't stand listening to her.
Uggggh, Amy Wax again.
Anonymous
07/18/2022 21:11
Subject: Re:US College Rankings, from the perspective of a college student
The thing is these colleges are not interchangeable. It’s not like a top student would want to go to all of them. The school cultures are different and these rankings really don’t take that into account.
Anonymous
07/18/2022 20:44
Subject: Re:US College Rankings, from the perspective of a college student
I actually enjoyed her video. She sounds like a fun person.