Anonymous wrote:Trustee (a professional, not family) can disburse what they see fit at any point; kid is entitled to half of what is there at 30 and the other half at 40.
Anonymous wrote:Trustee (a professional, not family) can disburse what they see fit at any point; kid is entitled to half of what is there at 30 and the other half at 40.
Anonymous wrote:We have some kids still in elementary school and some who have graduated college so our needs may be different than yours.
Basically, the trusts are governed by an executor. There are payouts at staggered stages from 18 to 55, in incremental amounts with stipulations about use (or nonuse) of the funds). Each increment is predicated on the success (we spell out the criteria) in managing the prior increment. We also tried to build in some safeguards to help our kids avoid gold-diggers or people (strangers, friends, relatives) with sticky fingers.
If one of us dies, the other cannot change the trust or will.
If a beneficiary contests the will, that person immediately loses all funds that have been paid or will be paid and is no longer a beneficiary of our will/trusts. My husband has actually told our executor that he wants a "scorched earth" attitude about anyone who contests. We are being more than fair and equal. We cannot imagine a scenario in our current status that would cause anyone to contest, but we also realize that life happens.
We have been very clear to the kids because we want them to give the warning to anyone who gets involved with them - do NOT plan on benefitting from our will because our kids' hands are tied so go do your gold-digging elsewhere.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You started from zero, and you want your children to do the “same thing”? You seem confused.
What am I "confused" about? I want my kids to work and be productive. I don't want them or their kids or their kids' kids to be sitting on their duffs like a bunch of lazy doofuses. It isn't mentally or physically healthy. I don't want them to starve to death, either. So they get a little money doled out in increments. Over time it is a lot of money but split up, well, it is going to be hard to lead a dilettante lifestyle!![]()
We know a lot of people who are very wealthy and we've watched what they have or have not done with their kids and money. The kids of the super wealthy people who are the happiest and who are the most successful in life are the ones who don't rely on their trusts, who stand on their own two feet, and who are responsible for generating their own wealth. That's what we want and that's why we've set up our trusts the way we have. Basically we want our kids to be the type of people that we would want to meet, strong and independent go-getters with sound values, and not the type of people that we would walk away from rolling our eyes and saying "yuck."
Anonymous wrote:Can we keep this thread going for newcomers? I don’t want to hijack if your OP wasn’t sufficiently addressed. Seeking others with young adults. My son is 19, so I’m starting over without executor/trustee with him involved in draft and meeting with attorney. He’s a rising college sophomore, responsible with money, on his second internship, pays his cc in full each month from his own earnings, has a decently performing small portfolio that he funds. My only concern is he’s overly generous, so some protections need to be established. College tuition is funded separately.
Anonymous wrote:Are you going to just have the guardians use their own funds to care for the kids until they are a certain age?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We have some kids still in elementary school and some who have graduated college so our needs may be different than yours.
Basically, the trusts are governed by an executor. There are payouts at staggered stages from 18 to 55, in incremental amounts with stipulations about use (or nonuse) of the funds). Each increment is predicated on the success (we spell out the criteria) in managing the prior increment. We also tried to build in some safeguards to help our kids avoid gold-diggers or people (strangers, friends, relatives) with sticky fingers.
If one of us dies, the other cannot change the trust or will.
If a beneficiary contests the will, that person immediately loses all funds that have been paid or will be paid and is no longer a beneficiary of our will/trusts. My husband has actually told our executor that he wants a "scorched earth" attitude about anyone who contests. We are being more than fair and equal. We cannot imagine a scenario in our current status that would cause anyone to contest, but we also realize that life happens.
We have been very clear to the kids because we want them to give the warning to anyone who gets involved with them - do NOT plan on benefitting from our will because our kids' hands are tied so go do your gold-digging elsewhere.
Is there a therapy fund written into the trust? Your kids will need it for the money-control dynamic you and your husband wielded in life and then from the grave. This is insane.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We're going to specify in our will that the assets left in our estate plus our life insurance payouts will find a trust for each of our minor children. We are talking about when the trust would provide funds. If you anticipated a million to a million and a quarter in each trust, what would you specify and why? Simple lump payout at a certain age? Payouts at multiple ages? Allow guardians to cover educational expenses? Something else?
Just curious what people's preferences or recommendations would be. Tips and experiences?
I am the named executor of a sibling's trust (single parent). The way it was setup, kids will get 4% each year of the what they inherit (will be about $2M each if that event happens today) until age 35 (Kids are 16 and 14 now), at which point they just the whole thing. There's a separate bucket of money for healthcare (insurance premium, etc. One of the kids has health issues; this bucket will be funded by Life insurance proceeds). College expenses, will be paid for over and above the 4%. Don't recall if the accounts just transfer over at age 35 or if the trust splits into two. As executor I'll have the liberty to invest the money as I deem fit as well as pay out additional amounts if appropriate..