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Anonymous wrote:Ours in VA is mandating vaccines. First shot has to be done by August. So grateful; I would only choose a preschool with a vaccine mandate.

Why is that? You know the vaccines don't do much to protect against symptomatic disease, and there's no evidence they protect against severe disease in this age group?

This is not true. Scroll down to the 10:20 AM update.

https://www.statnews.com/2022/06/15/tracking-an-fda-advisory-panel-meeting-on-covid-vaccines-in-young-children/

The confidence interval in that slide is enormous. It means you can't make heads or tails of the data. Sorry, that's extremely weak if that's your "evidence."

The confidence interval is 32.4-67.9; i.e. well above 0. The vaccine clearly prevents infection.

How long does it prevent infection? For the couple of weeks that the trial followed the kids? Should toddlers be getting boosters every few months because vaccine efficacy wanes so quickly?

Don't even know why I'm biting, but sure. A booster every 6 months or so. Why not?

In the link, it shows that the immune response to the vaccine is consistent across all age groups. Are you saying adults shouldn't get the vaccine?

I'm saying that the risks of covid to young children are far lower than the risks of covid for adults--by several orders of magnitude. Therefore the risk/benefit calculation of vaccination and repeated boosters is extremely different. Should my elderly parents keep getting boosters? Probably, because the risk of death and severe disease of covid are so high for that age group. Should my healthy toddler who likely has already been exposed to the virus get vaccinated and get endless boosters when there doesn't seem to be a clear benefit and the risks to him from the virus are so low? Probably not.

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Anonymous wrote:Ours in VA is mandating vaccines. First shot has to be done by August. So grateful; I would only choose a preschool with a vaccine mandate.

Why is that? You know the vaccines don't do much to protect against symptomatic disease, and there's no evidence they protect against severe disease in this age group?

This is not true. Scroll down to the 10:20 AM update.

https://www.statnews.com/2022/06/15/tracking-an-fda-advisory-panel-meeting-on-covid-vaccines-in-young-children/

The confidence interval in that slide is enormous. It means you can't make heads or tails of the data. Sorry, that's extremely weak if that's your "evidence."

The confidence interval is 32.4-67.9; i.e. well above 0. The vaccine clearly prevents infection.

How long does it prevent infection? For the couple of weeks that the trial followed the kids? Should toddlers be getting boosters every few months because vaccine efficacy wanes so quickly?

Don't even know why I'm biting, but sure. A booster every 6 months or so. Why not?

In the link, it shows that the immune response to the vaccine is consistent across all age groups. Are you saying adults shouldn't get the vaccine?

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Anonymous wrote:Ours in VA is mandating vaccines. First shot has to be done by August. So grateful; I would only choose a preschool with a vaccine mandate.

Why is that? You know the vaccines don't do much to protect against symptomatic disease, and there's no evidence they protect against severe disease in this age group?

This is not true. Scroll down to the 10:20 AM update.

https://www.statnews.com/2022/06/15/tracking-an-fda-advisory-panel-meeting-on-covid-vaccines-in-young-children/

The confidence interval in that slide is enormous. It means you can't make heads or tails of the data. Sorry, that's extremely weak if that's your "evidence."

The confidence interval is 32.4-67.9; i.e. well above 0. The vaccine clearly prevents infection.

How long does it prevent infection? For the couple of weeks that the trial followed the kids? Should toddlers be getting boosters every few months because vaccine efficacy wanes so quickly?

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Anonymous wrote:Ours in VA is mandating vaccines. First shot has to be done by August. So grateful; I would only choose a preschool with a vaccine mandate.

Why is that? You know the vaccines don't do much to protect against symptomatic disease, and there's no evidence they protect against severe disease in this age group?

This is not true. Scroll down to the 10:20 AM update.

https://www.statnews.com/2022/06/15/tracking-an-fda-advisory-panel-meeting-on-covid-vaccines-in-young-children/

The confidence interval in that slide is enormous. It means you can't make heads or tails of the data. Sorry, that's extremely weak if that's your "evidence."

The confidence interval is 32.4-67.9; i.e. well above 0. The vaccine clearly prevents infection.

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Anonymous wrote:Ours in VA is mandating vaccines. First shot has to be done by August. So grateful; I would only choose a preschool with a vaccine mandate.

Why is that? You know the vaccines don't do much to protect against symptomatic disease, and there's no evidence they protect against severe disease in this age group?

This is not true. Scroll down to the 10:20 AM update.

https://www.statnews.com/2022/06/15/tracking-an-fda-advisory-panel-meeting-on-covid-vaccines-in-young-children/

The confidence interval in that slide is enormous. It means you can't make heads or tails of the data. Sorry, that's extremely weak if that's your "evidence."

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Anonymous wrote:So DCUM is deleting posts that ask questions about the wisdom of vaxing very young children? That's awful! My fam is all vaxxed, but I personally wouldn't vax a toddler for covid, neither would I criticize anyone who who chose that option. To each their own. Its a lot like other medical decisions that are now being restricted. Why ok in one area but not others? Silencing reasonable discussion is abhorent. I guess this post will get deleted. I can't understand the desire to silence and control people. I agree with PP that silencing people just leads to entrenchment. Our country is falling apart - and I believe ultimately will collapse - because there are almost no moderate politicians anymore. The closed silos of both parties is horrific to me. And now so many people do the same thing in their personal life and refuse to speak or interact with anyone who thinks differently than they do. Aren't we all supposed to value diversity? I l love diversity, whether race, religion, or politics. It's how we learn from each other. I can't imagine only being around clones of myself. How boring! Shutting off dissenting opinions is truly sophomoric. And sad. Especially about something that actual MDs disagree about. Ask me how I know... If you have to shut down opposing positions on anything, it means you have a weak case. Make better arguments. Prove your case. The closed mindedness of people these days is just so heartbreaking.

Our country is falling apart because conservatives elected Trump president. The rest of us aren’t to blame, sorry not sorry.

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Anonymous wrote:Ours in VA is mandating vaccines. First shot has to be done by August. So grateful; I would only choose a preschool with a vaccine mandate.

Why is that? You know the vaccines don't do much to protect against symptomatic disease, and there's no evidence they protect against severe disease in this age group?

This is not true. Scroll down to the 10:20 AM update.

https://www.statnews.com/2022/06/15/tracking-an-fda-advisory-panel-meeting-on-covid-vaccines-in-young-children/

Also the vaccine helps reduce pressure on the hospitals, so it’s for the societal good.

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Anonymous wrote:Ours in VA is mandating vaccines. First shot has to be done by August. So grateful; I would only choose a preschool with a vaccine mandate.

Why is that? You know the vaccines don't do much to protect against symptomatic disease, and there's no evidence they protect against severe disease in this age group?

This is not true. Scroll down to the 10:20 AM update.

https://www.statnews.com/2022/06/15/tracking-an-fda-advisory-panel-meeting-on-covid-vaccines-in-young-children/

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Anonymous wrote:Ours in VA is mandating vaccines. First shot has to be done by August. So grateful; I would only choose a preschool with a vaccine mandate.

Why is that? You know the vaccines don't do much to protect against symptomatic disease, and there's no evidence they protect against severe disease in this age group?

This is not true. Scroll down to the 10:20 AM update.

https://www.statnews.com/2022/06/15/tracking-an-fda-advisory-panel-meeting-on-covid-vaccines-in-young-children/

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Anonymous wrote:Ours in VA is mandating vaccines. First shot has to be done by August. So grateful; I would only choose a preschool with a vaccine mandate.

Why is that? You know the vaccines don't do much to protect against symptomatic disease, and there's no evidence they protect against severe disease in this age group?

This is not true. Scroll down to the 10:20 AM update.

https://www.statnews.com/2022/06/15/tracking-an-fda-advisory-panel-meeting-on-covid-vaccines-in-young-children/

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Anonymous wrote:Ours in VA is mandating vaccines. First shot has to be done by August. So grateful; I would only choose a preschool with a vaccine mandate.

Why is that? You know the vaccines don't do much to protect against symptomatic disease, and there's no evidence they protect against severe disease in this age group?

Anonymous wrote:Ours in VA is mandating vaccines. First shot has to be done by August. So grateful; I would only choose a preschool with a vaccine mandate.

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Our country is falling apart because conservatives elected Trump president. The rest of us aren’t to blame, sorry not sorry.

I certainly agree that is one major factor. But you're pretty much proving my point for me. Instant, knee-jerk reaction to blame others. I would argue that anyone who silences discussion or who can't have a civil discussion with people who don't think exactly like they do IS to blame. Nice try passing the blame though. Like I said, closed-mindedness will be the death of our country. And it should be obvious to everyone by now that both parties do the same dirty, win at all costs, lying, propaganda, and manipulation. Both sides can be equally awful. I hope more people wise up and stop being non-thinking cult members of whichever party they've chosen. The irony when the far-left goes hysterical over the far-right boggles the mind. I find both extremes to be just that. Everybody just seems to want to drink their version of kool-aid. I just really wish we had a moderate, normal, non-screeching third party. *sigh*