Anonymous
06/26/2022 18:07
Subject: Republican Friends
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No worries there. Your Republican friends came to the same conclusion about you long ago.
I wish. Tell them to stop calling and texting me.
Same boat. Mine just won't shut up.
I'm not arguing with them or even talking about anything related to politics with them any more. And if they don't start doing the same, they are going to be ex friends. Same.goes for relatives; what ever they want to put on social media, fine. But don't talk to me about it because I don't want to hear your far right conspiracy theories and how "Trump is still really president' etc.
Interesting. The only people I see ranting about this are on the far left.
DP
DP here. Then you have a very limited acquaintanceship.
Anonymous
06/26/2022 18:07
Subject: Republican Friends
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m a Dem with a different opinion.
Roberts didn’t want it to go down this way. Three activist justices appointed by Trump did this. Blame them, not all R’s.
And blame RBG for not retiring. And all the Dems who hated HRC and voted for Trump.
Not all R’s are maga. This decision might be a wake up call for R women.
While I’m a lifelong Dem, I’m not an AOC super lefty.
Let’s focus on bringing women and men together to fight this instead of drawing more lines.
No, but Rs who keep voting R have decided that they're okay with MAGA, and it's time to start calling a spade a spade.
+1
They all view MAGA as the ends justifying the means. They'll say other stuff in person so as not to have a huge backlash that might actually build momentum against them. But they all feel that MAGA is acceptable if not the best thing. (very, very few feel otherwise)
Anonymous
06/26/2022 18:06
Subject: Republican Friends
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have stepped back from anyone MAGA. The friends with brains and decency no longer vote R
I am a kind person, which is why I can no longer support anyone being in such an evil party as the Republican Party.
+1. And I don’t want those people around my children.
We don’t want you woke liberal ideology anywhere near our kids…
Your adult children will spend a lot of time in therapy addressing the hateful, bigoted environment they grew up in. Grey rock, baby.
Anonymous
06/26/2022 18:02
Subject: Republican Friends
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m a Dem with a different opinion.
Roberts didn’t want it to go down this way. Three activist justices appointed by Trump did this. Blame them, not all R’s.
And blame RBG for not retiring. And all the Dems who hated HRC and voted for Trump.
Not all R’s are maga. This decision might be a wake up call for R women.
While I’m a lifelong Dem, I’m not an AOC super lefty.
Let’s focus on bringing women and men together to fight this instead of drawing more lines.
Why do people keep saying this? How do we know we wouldn't have ended up with another Merrick Garland situation? I bet that but for Merrick Garland she would have retired.
Then blame Obama and the Dems for not fighting to seat Garland. I do. I also blame RBG.
You wouldn't have wound up with a Merrick Garland situation because from 2009 -2015 Obama had the Senate votes to replace RBG with whoever he wanted. The only time in Obama's tenure (the 114th congress, Jan 2015 on) when there was a (very strong) Republican control of the senate. At that point the Repubs had 54 senate votes and there was nothing Obama could do to either replace RBG or get Garland on SC.
Had RBG retired earlier, Obama easily could have replaced her with whoever he wanted (within reason) and the Republicans would have had little recourse and would have had to resort to Christine Blasey-Ford/Anita Hill type tactics, if they so chose, to attempt to stop it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_divisions_of_United_States_Congresses
You think the President should have forced a Supreme Court justice to retire against her will?!
Of course not. RBG should have realized her own mortality, understood the ramifications of losing that seat and retired on her own. Obama gently tried to suggest this.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/25/us/politics/rbg-retirement-obama.html
RBG decided not to retire and Amy Comey Barrett wound up with her seat. People can canonize her all they want but these are facts, as ugly as they are. We are now living with the results.
It’s seriously bizarre that you place all this on a pro choice woman instead of on the six lying extremist judges, the dark money forces who bought them, the knuckle draggers whose votes made them possible and the terrible humans who run the GOP.
Anonymous
06/26/2022 18:00
Subject: Republican Friends
Anonymous wrote:I’m a Dem with a different opinion.
Roberts didn’t want it to go down this way. Three activist justices appointed by Trump did this. Blame them, not all R’s.
And blame RBG for not retiring. And all the Dems who hated HRC and voted for Trump.
Not all R’s are maga. This decision might be a wake up call for R women.
While I’m a lifelong Dem, I’m not an AOC super lefty.
Let’s focus on bringing women and men together to fight this instead of drawing more lines.
OP here--I used to be like you. this is exactly the mentality I rationalized. Not all R's are MAGA and I don't even agree entirely with some of the positions of the very far left of my own party, but nothing that my own party supports is half as bad as MAGA and what they're trying to do to our country and I can no longer disassociate "moderate" R's from MAGA. That is their party and they own it.
Anonymous
06/26/2022 17:59
Subject: Republican Friends
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have stepped back from anyone MAGA. The friends with brains and decency no longer vote R
I am a kind person, which is why I can no longer support anyone being in such an evil party as the Republican Party.
+1. And I don’t want those people around my children.
We don’t want you woke liberal ideology anywhere near our kids…
Yeah, right. So stop begging for invitations to our parties. It’s pathetic.
More wishful thinking on your part. Pathetic, indeed!
DP
Anonymous
06/26/2022 17:58
Subject: Republican Friends
Anonymous wrote:I have stepped back from anyone MAGA. The friends with brains and decency no longer vote R
I am a kind person, which is why I can no longer support anyone being in such an evil party as the Republican Party.
Yes, you sound extremely kind. /s
Anonymous
06/26/2022 17:56
Subject: Republican Friends
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No worries there. Your Republican friends came to the same conclusion about you long ago.
I wish. Tell them to stop calling and texting me.
Same boat. Mine just won't shut up.
I'm not arguing with them or even talking about anything related to politics with them any more. And if they don't start doing the same, they are going to be ex friends. Same.goes for relatives; what ever they want to put on social media, fine. But don't talk to me about it because I don't want to hear your far right conspiracy theories and how "Trump is still really president' etc.
Interesting. The only people I see ranting about this are on the far left.
DP
Anonymous
06/26/2022 17:37
Subject: Re:Republican Friends
I wrote on the Family Forum weeks ago that I finally cut off all communication with my gun-fetishist, trump supporting sister after the Texas children were blown apart in their school. It was hard but I couldn’t take it anymore. I’m sure she’s thrilled with this Supreme Court decision even though she paid for her own daughter’s abortion.
Anonymous
06/26/2022 17:34
Subject: Republican Friends
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have stepped back from anyone MAGA. The friends with brains and decency no longer vote R
I am a kind person, which is why I can no longer support anyone being in such an evil party as the Republican Party.
+1. And I don’t want those people around my children.
We don’t want you woke liberal ideology anywhere near our kids…
Yeah, right. So stop begging for invitations to our parties. It’s pathetic.
+1. And stop asking us to tutor your kids or help them get into a liberal “woke” college.
+2. I’d be happy if my trump-living relatives just stopped begging to borrow money!
Anonymous
06/26/2022 17:33
Subject: Republican Friends
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have stepped back from anyone MAGA. The friends with brains and decency no longer vote R
I am a kind person, which is why I can no longer support anyone being in such an evil party as the Republican Party.
+1. And I don’t want those people around my children.
We don’t want you woke liberal ideology anywhere near our kids…
Show me on the doll where the woke people hurt you
Anonymous
06/26/2022 17:33
Subject: Republican Friends
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m a Dem with a different opinion.
Roberts didn’t want it to go down this way. Three activist justices appointed by Trump did this. Blame them, not all R’s.
And blame RBG for not retiring. And all the Dems who hated HRC and voted for Trump.
Not all R’s are maga. This decision might be a wake up call for R women.
While I’m a lifelong Dem, I’m not an AOC super lefty.
Let’s focus on bringing women and men together to fight this instead of drawing more lines.
Why do people keep saying this? How do we know we wouldn't have ended up with another Merrick Garland situation? I bet that but for Merrick Garland she would have retired.
Then blame Obama and the Dems for not fighting to seat Garland. I do. I also blame RBG.
You wouldn't have wound up with a Merrick Garland situation because from 2009 -2015 Obama had the Senate votes to replace RBG with whoever he wanted. The only time in Obama's tenure (the 114th congress, Jan 2015 on) when there was a (very strong) Republican control of the senate. At that point the Repubs had 54 senate votes and there was nothing Obama could do to either replace RBG or get Garland on SC.
Had RBG retired earlier, Obama easily could have replaced her with whoever he wanted (within reason) and the Republicans would have had little recourse and would have had to resort to Christine Blasey-Ford/Anita Hill type tactics, if they so chose, to attempt to stop it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_divisions_of_United_States_Congresses
You think the President should have forced a Supreme Court justice to retire against her will?!
Of course not. RBG should have realized her own mortality, understood the ramifications of losing that seat and retired on her own. Obama gently tried to suggest this.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/25/us/politics/rbg-retirement-obama.html
RBG decided not to retire and Amy Comey Barrett wound up with her seat. People can canonize her all they want but these are facts, as ugly as they are. We are now living with the results.
Okay, so you agree there was nothing President Obama could have done. Good.
As for RBG - she steadfastly held to the ideology that the Supreme Court was not political. I too wish she’d retired but she didn’t.
Anonymous
06/26/2022 17:31
Subject: Republican Friends
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have stepped back from anyone MAGA. The friends with brains and decency no longer vote R
I am a kind person, which is why I can no longer support anyone being in such an evil party as the Republican Party.
+1. And I don’t want those people around my children.
We don’t want you woke liberal ideology anywhere near our kids…
Yeah, right. So stop begging for invitations to our parties. It’s pathetic.
+1. And stop asking us to tutor your kids or help them get into a liberal “woke” college.
Anonymous
06/26/2022 17:30
Subject: Republican Friends
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m a Dem with a different opinion.
Roberts didn’t want it to go down this way. Three activist justices appointed by Trump did this. Blame them, not all R’s.
And blame RBG for not retiring. And all the Dems who hated HRC and voted for Trump.
Not all R’s are maga. This decision might be a wake up call for R women.
While I’m a lifelong Dem, I’m not an AOC super lefty.
Let’s focus on bringing women and men together to fight this instead of drawing more lines.
Why do people keep saying this? How do we know we wouldn't have ended up with another Merrick Garland situation? I bet that but for Merrick Garland she would have retired.
Then blame Obama and the Dems for not fighting to seat Garland. I do. I also blame RBG.
You wouldn't have wound up with a Merrick Garland situation because from 2009 -2015 Obama had the Senate votes to replace RBG with whoever he wanted. The only time in Obama's tenure (the 114th congress, Jan 2015 on) when there was a (very strong) Republican control of the senate. At that point the Repubs had 54 senate votes and there was nothing Obama could do to either replace RBG or get Garland on SC.
Had RBG retired earlier, Obama easily could have replaced her with whoever he wanted (within reason) and the Republicans would have had little recourse and would have had to resort to Christine Blasey-Ford/Anita Hill type tactics, if they so chose, to attempt to stop it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_divisions_of_United_States_Congresses
You think the President should have forced a Supreme Court justice to retire against her will?!
Of course not. RBG should have realized her own mortality, understood the ramifications of losing that seat and retired on her own. Obama gently tried to suggest this.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/25/us/politics/rbg-retirement-obama.html
RBG decided not to retire and Amy Comey Barrett wound up with her seat. People can canonize her all they want but these are facts, as ugly as they are. We are now living with the results.
Anonymous
06/26/2022 17:30
Subject: Republican Friends
That shipped sailed when Trump was elected in 2016. The US started as an "experiment" aCcording to our Founders. The experiment failed. It is time to break up the US. Just as the USSR fziled-- so has the US. Time to move on and re-group.