Anonymous wrote:They think they do but unless you’ve had kids, not babysat or nannies, you will never know how much work it is on a daily basis.

Those of us with kids get tired of people like you complaining and expecting the world to revolve around them. We've never had a nanny or babysitter or day care nor would we and yet, we never complain like you.

What exactly do you need childless/child free people to “get”? Are you one of the contingent of parents who feels the need to get validation from everyone you meet for your martyred position in life?

Yay, you bred! Like billions, everywhere. Here’s your Cookie and a parade!

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Anonymous wrote:I must be the only parent who doesn't find parenting hard (I do not have special needs kids). I found that kids just become a natural part of the family. Or maybe I have easy kids... I think my dog is much more difficult.

No, you're not the only one. I actually think you're the majority. But it is like anything else. The complainers are 5% of the population and they make 95% of the noise. The rest of us are fine and dandy.

If that's the case would you please stop whining? We need free child allowances. We need paid care. We need this. We need that. Do if yourself if you're so fine and dandy.

Anonymous wrote:I must be the only parent who doesn't find parenting hard (I do not have special needs kids). I found that kids just become a natural part of the family. Or maybe I have easy kids... I think my dog is much more difficult.

No, you're not the only one. I actually think you're the majority. But it is like anything else. The complainers are 5% of the population and they make 95% of the noise. The rest of us are fine and dandy.

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Anonymous wrote:They think they do but unless you’ve had kids, not babysat or nannies, you will never know how much work it is on a daily basis.

I see the opposite a lot too. People with young kids, who apparently didn't do anything hard before the kids came along so they think it's the hardest thing ever, not recognizing that teenagers also need a lot of work and time, or that being or caretaking for the elderly is, in itself, also exhausting and time consuming, and coming to the conclusion that the world should evolve around them because they are doing the hardest thing ever.

Having healthy young kids was hard, but it's not the hardest thing ever like people make it out to be.

Exactly. Some people don't get that it isn't that hard for most of us. The responsibilities are unrelenting, sure, so 24/7 you have to be aware but there is great joy in being parents and, honestly, at some point it is like breathing and you don't even have to think about it.

So, yes, it is hard for THEM but that's because of them, not anything else. My brother and sister-in-law, for example, have 2 kids. You would think that they are building a rocket ship to go to the moon using grains of sand. The two of them literally don't understand planning ahead, setting up routines, working together cooperatively, training the children, etc. So their house is always a wreck, the children are completely wild and they have no friends because the chaos is just too much for any sane people to deal with. They are constantly complaining about how no one understands how hard their lives are. What they don't understand is that if they stopped running around insanely and set up routines and planned ahead, their lives would be immeasurably improved and the children's behavior would also become better. The kids are acting out because their parents are too distracted and the kids are throwing themselves into the chaos.

Anyway, it is frustrating when you talk with the parents like OP. They just don't see that they are the problem, not the kids.

Anonymous wrote:I must be the only parent who doesn't find parenting hard (I do not have special needs kids). I found that kids just become a natural part of the family. Or maybe I have easy kids... I think my dog is much more difficult.

Are your children NT?

Anonymous wrote:I thought I knew everything there was to know about having kids. And then I had them and I realized I knew nothing.

I though I knew what having kids meant, and then I had my second and everything that worked with the first didn’t with the second.

I must be the only parent who doesn't find parenting hard (I do not have special needs kids). I found that kids just become a natural part of the family. Or maybe I have easy kids... I think my dog is much more difficult.

I only think about this when people are giving me a hard time for not being able to do something because of my kids. I was the first to have kids of my siblings and boy were they really parenting experts who were going to keep living their life exactly the same way when they had kids. Well in theory….now they have kids and I have to bite my tongue to not remind them of all their know it all comments. Ha. I don’t remember feeling this way about any one outside of my immediate family though…

What I have noticed is child free couples are the most liberal and embrace the oddest parts of left culture. They don’t see how this plays out on your kids. Like my kid learning about BJs from sec education at age 8. They needed to know how … you get the picture.

Love how you talk like this amongst yourself but with the childfree it’s all, “Every day is a gift, my children are the best thing that’s ever happened, you can’t understand love until your heart is living outside your body, everything my kids do is miraculous, gah gah me me meeeeeeee!”

Anonymous wrote:They think they do but unless you’ve had kids, not babysat or nannies, you will never know how much work it is on a daily basis.

As a teacher, and former nanny, so many people had told me how much work it was to have kids. Then I had kids and realized how much easier it is when you only have a few, and you have control.

I mean, obviously, it's more hours than I worked as a nanny, but not being an idiot I anticipated that, but parenting was far less challenging than I anticipated based on what everyone told me.

People who have never been steeplejacks - you know have only seen steeples - have NO IDEA how hard it is to be a steeplejack.

Anonymous wrote:They think they do but unless you’ve had kids, not babysat or nannies, you will never know how much work it is on a daily basis.

No, nannies get it. I had no surprises going from being a nanny to being a mother.

I'm a childless woman, and I would love to have all that work. Yes, I realize it is a lot of work.