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Anonymous wrote:Be careful with the certifications. You want training/ experience tailored to the challenge you are trying to address. A Fellow of the Orton Gillingham Academy can charge between $75-200 an hour depending on the location.

Public school reading specialists are often poorly trained.

Actually the opposite is true. It's the sham programs that are the rip offs. The certified reading specialists understand the nuanced and varied neurological complexities of reading and already know prescriptive scripted programs work for no one.

New poster here. This has NOT been our experience or the experience of most parents we know in the dyslexia community. Public school reading specialists are often poorly trained and do not understand dyslexia at all. They often use the "whole language" method that became popular in the 1980's which includes just memorizing lots of sight words. Memorization works great for some kids but is a disaster for others. Look for a specialist who has completed a rigorous Orton Gillingham based training reading program. We went through ASDEC in Rockville, MD, to find ours. I think we paid around $85 an hour but it was incredibly effective.

As a reading specialist of nearly 37 years, and a college professor, trainer of teachers, and literacy specialist for all ages in all settings, I can unequivocally say that you are wrong. You basically states that reading specialists do not understand dyslexia, and that statement alone should give everyone pause. What do you think everyone is doing in grad school? Perhaps it is you that doesn't understand it. And, I can assure you that there is not one packaged program that "cures" dyslexia. Sorry!

I'm involved in curriculum development for many public settings, and no, no one uses whole language as a reading tool in early instruction. The term was being used in the 1970s, and frankly, it has no real meaning in any program context today. No early reading program has a whole language instructional goal. This is propaganda that commercial companies use, not unlike the right wing rhetoric about CRT, to influence parents, knowing lay people don't have anybackground and can get hung up on terms. This has been going on for decades. And another news flash: developmental optometry- also rubbish.

Spend your $$ as you wish. I can direct you to a number of neighborhood MLMs, too, if you are interested.

So you're saying the Kindergarten teacher that didn't give my child any phonics instruction and instead suggest she guess words based on pictures was teaching her to read the right way? But her OG-certified tutor who DID teach her using phonics-based and multi-sensory methods, as well as the little "tricks" like "controlled R" and "magic E" did not? Ok, thanks. I'll use common sense and what ACTUALLY worked for my child as proof not your bloviated "blah blah I'm an expert listen to me because I have a lot experience" nonsense. In my experience, the people with 20+ years of experience are the ones spewing nonsense.

Anonymous wrote:I’m in nyc but we pay $150/55 mins to our reading specialist/tutor.

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Anonymous wrote:Be careful with the certifications. You want training/ experience tailored to the challenge you are trying to address. A Fellow of the Orton Gillingham Academy can charge between $75-200 an hour depending on the location.

Public school reading specialists are often poorly trained.

Actually the opposite is true. It's the sham programs that are the rip offs. The certified reading specialists understand the nuanced and varied neurological complexities of reading and already know prescriptive scripted programs work for no one.

New poster here. This has NOT been our experience or the experience of most parents we know in the dyslexia community. Public school reading specialists are often poorly trained and do not understand dyslexia at all. They often use the "whole language" method that became popular in the 1980's which includes just memorizing lots of sight words. Memorization works great for some kids but is a disaster for others. Look for a specialist who has completed a rigorous Orton Gillingham based training reading program. We went through ASDEC in Rockville, MD, to find ours. I think we paid around $85 an hour but it was incredibly effective.

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Anonymous wrote:Be careful with the certifications. You want training/ experience tailored to the challenge you are trying to address. A Fellow of the Orton Gillingham Academy can charge between $75-200 an hour depending on the location.

Public school reading specialists are often poorly trained.

Actually the opposite is true. It's the sham programs that are the rip offs. The certified reading specialists understand the nuanced and varied neurological complexities of reading and already know prescriptive scripted programs work for no one.

New poster here. This has NOT been our experience or the experience of most parents we know in the dyslexia community. Public school reading specialists are often poorly trained and do not understand dyslexia at all. They often use the "whole language" method that became popular in the 1980's which includes just memorizing lots of sight words. Memorization works great for some kids but is a disaster for others. Look for a specialist who has completed a rigorous Orton Gillingham based training reading program. We went through ASDEC in Rockville, MD, to find ours. I think we paid around $85 an hour but it was incredibly effective.

As a reading specialist of nearly 37 years, and a college professor, trainer of teachers, and literacy specialist for all ages in all settings, I can unequivocally say that you are wrong. You basically states that reading specialists do not understand dyslexia, and that statement alone should give everyone pause. What do you think everyone is doing in grad school? Perhaps it is you that doesn't understand it. And, I can assure you that there is not one packaged program that "cures" dyslexia. Sorry!

I'm involved in curriculum development for many public settings, and no, no one uses whole language as a reading tool in early instruction. The term was being used in the 1970s, and frankly, it has no real meaning in any program context today. No early reading program has a whole language instructional goal. This is propaganda that commercial companies use, not unlike the right wing rhetoric about CRT, to influence parents, knowing lay people don't have anybackground and can get hung up on terms. This has been going on for decades. And another news flash: developmental optometry- also rubbish.

Spend your $$ as you wish. I can direct you to a number of neighborhood MLMs, too, if you are interested.

Anonymous wrote:Public education is typical for jumping on whatever bandwagon is popular whether or not it is based on actual science. Don't fault the teachers. They are doing what they were taught. I always knew this guessing based on pictures and the first sound in a word was wrong but I had to do it when admins or their visitors came around. The rest of the time I shut my door and taught my students how to read the right way.

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Anonymous wrote:Be careful with the certifications. You want training/ experience tailored to the challenge you are trying to address. A Fellow of the Orton Gillingham Academy can charge between $75-200 an hour depending on the location.

Public school reading specialists are often poorly trained.

Actually the opposite is true. It's the sham programs that are the rip offs. The certified reading specialists understand the nuanced and varied neurological complexities of reading and already know prescriptive scripted programs work for no one.

New poster here. This has NOT been our experience or the experience of most parents we know in the dyslexia community. Public school reading specialists are often poorly trained and do not understand dyslexia at all. They often use the "whole language" method that became popular in the 1980's which includes just memorizing lots of sight words. Memorization works great for some kids but is a disaster for others. Look for a specialist who has completed a rigorous Orton Gillingham based training reading program. We went through ASDEC in Rockville, MD, to find ours. I think we paid around $85 an hour but it was incredibly effective.

As a reading specialist of nearly 37 years, and a college professor, trainer of teachers, and literacy specialist for all ages in all settings, I can unequivocally say that you are wrong. You basically states that reading specialists do not understand dyslexia, and that statement alone should give everyone pause. What do you think everyone is doing in grad school? Perhaps it is you that doesn't understand it. And, I can assure you that there is not one packaged program that "cures" dyslexia. Sorry!

I'm involved in curriculum development for many public settings, and no, no one uses whole language as a reading tool in early instruction. The term was being used in the 1970s, and frankly, it has no real meaning in any program context today. No early reading program has a whole language instructional goal. This is propaganda that commercial companies use, not unlike the right wing rhetoric about CRT, to influence parents, knowing lay people don't have anybackground and can get hung up on terms. This has been going on for decades. And another news flash: developmental optometry- also rubbish.

Spend your $$ as you wish. I can direct you to a number of neighborhood MLMs, too, if you are interested.

NP. Schools focus on memorizing sight words/high frequency words (does it really matter if it's Dolch or Fry?), promote guessing and do not teach phonics adequately.

~tutor, 20+ years, frequently hired to undo the mistakes done in early public school instruction

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Anonymous wrote:Just so parents understand, an OG trained teacher took the 30 hr long course (I'm taking it now). If you are OG certified, you've done a 6+ month long practicum that costs $2K. Make sure you ask if the person is trained or certified. Certified folks will command higher pay.

Can anyone sign up for this training or do you need a teaching license?

Unfortunately, anyone can.

Curious where is the OG training link for registration? I maybe interested in signing up one for my child. My youngest child has problem reading even though she is considered young.

The training link is for the adult to be trained in the methodology. You (or the trainee) would then use the training to teach the child using that system.

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Anonymous wrote:Just so parents understand, an OG trained teacher took the 30 hr long course (I'm taking it now). If you are OG certified, you've done a 6+ month long practicum that costs $2K. Make sure you ask if the person is trained or certified. Certified folks will command higher pay.

Can anyone sign up for this training or do you need a teaching license?

Unfortunately, anyone can.

Curious where is the OG training link for registration? I maybe interested in signing up one for my child. My youngest child has problem reading even though she is considered young.

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Anonymous wrote:Just so parents understand, an OG trained teacher took the 30 hr long course (I'm taking it now). If you are OG certified, you've done a 6+ month long practicum that costs $2K. Make sure you ask if the person is trained or certified. Certified folks will command higher pay.

Can anyone sign up for this training or do you need a teaching license?

Unfortunately, anyone can.