Anonymous
06/07/2022 13:49
Subject: What happen to JUST SAY NO and the DARE PROGRAM
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is the DARE program ineffective? I have a 5 year old and 7 year old so I have very little experience with these issues.
They are ineffective, like abstinence programs, because they tell kids to say no to all the stuff they will all experiment with at some point.
For me, and yes I know I'm just one person, the DARE program and sex ed worked on me like a charm. And I'm glad they did. I grew up in Arlington in the 80s and 90s.
Congratulations. You are a rare, rare unicorn. Both approaches are well-documented failures.
Actually, no. It was effective for my friends as well. It was simply a program that worked well with our personalities, I guess.
Also, I remember the MTV special on ecstasy in the mid/late 90's. I was in college. They did brain scans of ecstasy users and their brains looked like swiss cheese. That was even more reinforcement for me. I was offered ecstasy and other drugs in college and I declined every time. Didn't give a crap what anyone thought. The only thing I did was smoke weed a handful of times.
Same! Scared the shit out of me. Never tried it thought it was rampant in the Virginia Tech sorority scene.
Anonymous
06/07/2022 13:47
Subject: What happen to JUST SAY NO and the DARE PROGRAM
All the DARE kids in my high school were the known druggies.
Anonymous
06/07/2022 13:31
Subject: What happen to JUST SAY NO and the DARE PROGRAM
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is the DARE program ineffective? I have a 5 year old and 7 year old so I have very little experience with these issues.
They are ineffective, like abstinence programs, because they tell kids to say no to all the stuff they will all experiment with at some point.
For me, and yes I know I'm just one person, the DARE program and sex ed worked on me like a charm. And I'm glad they did. I grew up in Arlington in the 80s and 90s.
Congratulations. You are a rare, rare unicorn. Both approaches are well-documented failures.
Actually, no. It was effective for my friends as well. It was simply a program that worked well with our personalities, I guess.
Also, I remember the MTV special on ecstasy in the mid/late 90's. I was in college. They did brain scans of ecstasy users and their brains looked like swiss cheese. That was even more reinforcement for me. I was offered ecstasy and other drugs in college and I declined every time. Didn't give a crap what anyone thought. The only thing I did was smoke weed a handful of times.
Anonymous
06/07/2022 12:43
Subject: What happen to JUST SAY NO and the DARE PROGRAM
It’s just like how it turned out the anti-anorexia school movies they showed back in the day actually promoted and increased eating disorders.
Anonymous
06/07/2022 12:39
Subject: Re:What happen to JUST SAY NO and the DARE PROGRAM
Anonymous wrote:I was very scared of drugs thanks to DARE and the storyline in 90210 when Kelly is instantly addicted to cocaine!
What about the Saved By the Bell episode where Jessie gets addicted to caffeine?
“I’m so excited, I’m so excited, I’m so… scared.”
Anonymous
06/07/2022 12:26
Subject: What happen to JUST SAY NO and the DARE PROGRAM
Anonymous
06/07/2022 12:20
Subject: What happen to JUST SAY NO and the DARE PROGRAM
Anonymous wrote:^^hey! If you smoke weed, you get into Harvard! Thanks for the tip, PP![/quote
I mean… Isn’t that exactly the point? It’s not true that smoking weed, once, fries your brain like an egg; and if you tell kids that it does, when they find out you were lying, they also won’t believe you when you tell them that using heroin ones can fry your brain like an egg.
Tell kids the truth, teach them which substances to completely avoid and which to use in moderation; and then teach them and give them the tools to use in moderation.
I drank and smoked weed in high school and got into Columbia. I continued drinking and smoking weed in college and got into Yale for grad school. But I didn’t smoke TOO MUCH weed or drink too much; my friends who did, or who moved on to harder drugs, mostly dropped out. Some found their way back and others didn’t.
Anonymous
06/07/2022 12:20
Subject: What happen to JUST SAY NO and the DARE PROGRAM
most programs are not successful no matter what their use, look at the welfare system, doesn't work. The programs are supposed to end something but they usually just prolong the problems.
Anonymous
06/07/2022 12:18
Subject: What happen to JUST SAY NO and the DARE PROGRAM
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is the DARE program ineffective? I have a 5 year old and 7 year old so I have very little experience with these issues.
They are ineffective, like abstinence programs, because they tell kids to say no to all the stuff they will all experiment with at some point.
Thank goodness this is not close to true. Not nearly every kid experiments with drugs (maybe, if you include alcohol it’s a majority, but even with that my DH, myself, & all my siblings never drank as teenagers). Unlike with sex, there is not natural urge to use illegal drugs.
I think kids are more likely to not experiment if you give them factual education on the negatives of using drugs. The DARE program was fear based and essentially a lie. DARE portrays drug dealers as these raving lunatics offering drugs for free and they are instantly addictive. Then you are at a party with friends who end up smoking a joint while maintaining honors in school and all that DARE education is out the window.
Yes this was one of the reasons I smoked way more pot that I should have. I found out that the studies they used to tell us that pot was bad weren’t done in humans and used a quantity of THC that would be almost impossible to take during recreational use. So it just seemed like adults once again lied to me to try to control my behavior. If they had told me it might make me stupid and depressed based on good studies I would have used but probably not every day.
Anonymous
06/07/2022 12:14
Subject: What happen to JUST SAY NO and the DARE PROGRAM
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is the DARE program ineffective? I have a 5 year old and 7 year old so I have very little experience with these issues.
They are ineffective, like abstinence programs, because they tell kids to say no to all the stuff they will all experiment with at some point.
Thank goodness this is not close to true. Not nearly every kid experiments with drugs (maybe, if you include alcohol it’s a majority, but even with that my DH, myself, & all my siblings never drank as teenagers). Unlike with sex, there is not natural urge to use illegal drugs.
I think kids are more likely to not experiment if you give them factual education on the negatives of using drugs. The DARE program was fear based and essentially a lie. DARE portrays drug dealers as these raving lunatics offering drugs for free and they are instantly addictive. Then you are at a party with friends who end up smoking a joint while maintaining honors in school and all that DARE education is out the window.
Anonymous
06/07/2022 11:49
Subject: What happen to JUST SAY NO and the DARE PROGRAM
^^hey! If you smoke weed, you get into Harvard! Thanks for the tip, PP!
Anonymous
06/07/2022 11:18
Subject: What happen to JUST SAY NO and the DARE PROGRAM
I have photos of myself and my friends proudly wearing our DARE shirts while we smoked weed in the late 90s. I wonder what happened to that unicorn shaped bong?
DARE was kind of a joke at my Catholic high school. I went on to enjoy experimentation with even more types of drugs at Harvard. I used to sometimes use the DARE tee as a nightshirt in those days too.
Good times.
DARE was kind of a joke at my Catholic high school. I went on to enjoy experimentation with even more types of drugs at Harvard. I used to sometimes use the DARE tee as a nightshirt in those days too.
Good times.
Anonymous
06/07/2022 11:02
Subject: Re:What happen to JUST SAY NO and the DARE PROGRAM
My APS elem kid has had several don't vape lessons in school, so I'm sure there will be more as time goes on. But also like when I want to find out something curriculum related, I like use the google and find the VA SOL on it for her grade, so... I also talk to her about responsible drug use, she vaguely knows what narcan is bc she saw someone use it at a local CVS, and her dad carries it through his employer. Amazing what your kid can learn when you talk to them and don't just rely on school and some videos of frying eggs.
The DARE shirts were super sweet to wear when you were doing the drugs, though. So that was fun.
The DARE shirts were super sweet to wear when you were doing the drugs, though. So that was fun.
Anonymous
06/07/2022 11:02
Subject: What happen to JUST SAY NO and the DARE PROGRAM
They learn about drugs plenty in schools or at least in the middle school bathrooms as reported by my son. Keep talking to your kids. At some point they will see kids vaping or doing whatever the latest drugs are. I’ve learned more from my son than he’s learned from me at this point. I’m glad we can have open discussions about what’s going on and he says he hasn’t bought or tried any.
Anonymous
06/07/2022 10:48
Subject: What happen to JUST SAY NO and the DARE PROGRAM
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is the DARE program ineffective? I have a 5 year old and 7 year old so I have very little experience with these issues.
They are ineffective, like abstinence programs, because they tell kids to say no to all the stuff they will all experiment with at some point.
Thank goodness this is not close to true. Not nearly every kid experiments with drugs (maybe, if you include alcohol it’s a majority, but even with that my DH, myself, & all my siblings never drank as teenagers). Unlike with sex, there is not natural urge to use illegal drugs.