Anonymous
06/02/2022 11:53
Subject: So. tired. of buying night Pull-ups...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, I assume you have talked to his doctor etc. about all of this?
Yes we have. Absolutely no medical issues causing it. Dr. basically said it's a combination of him being a big sleeper (always has been) and genetics (DH had occasional accidents until he was 11).
Well you answered your question ^^
Given Dh took longer than average, you'll be buying ninjamas or night pull-ups for 2+ more yrs.
It's just how your kid is.
I guess my main concern was that DH (according to him) would only have the occasional accident, maybe once every couple of weeks or so.
DS is waking up wet EVERY single night, and pees through his pull-up more often than not. We've even resorted to going in and changing him into a new pull-up around midnight whenever I'm going to bed myself, and he STILL leaks through them by morning.
Anonymous
06/02/2022 11:53
Subject: So. tired. of buying night Pull-ups...
Anonymous wrote:You have to toilet train for nighttime, did you just skip that part of the process?
You have to research stuff before you propose solution, did you just skip that part of the discussion process? https://www.aafp.org/pubs/afp/issues/2014/1015/p560.html
Anonymous
06/02/2022 11:53
Subject: So. tired. of buying night Pull-ups...
What have you tried, OP? Maybe people will stop being rude if you explain what you have tried so far (e.g. bed wetting alarm, commando for one week, etc.)?
Anonymous
06/02/2022 11:51
Subject: So. tired. of buying night Pull-ups...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You have to toilet train for nighttime, did you just skip that part of the process?
WTF are you talking about? I did nothing to toilet train my kids at night. We toilet trained them, and then they naturally stopped peeing at night. Which is what happens as most bodies mature a bit. For some kids, it's takes a long time. There is no "training", only mitigation straegies. The kid is asleep. It's not a conscious choice that they are making. Shame does not fix it! Surprise!
Thank you. My kid is younger than OPs but I am gearing myself up for being in the same boat because I had nighttime accidents into middle school and pediatrician said there's a strong genetic component.
My parents night trained me, by the way -- I still had nighttime accidents because my body simply would not wake me up to go. My parents absolutely did shame me -- I got used to stripping the bed and washing the sheets myself, making it back up myself, before going to bed, sometimes while my parents angrily watched over me saying stuff like "see, this is what happens, we should all be asleep". Even these "consequences" did not help me. In fact, I feel pretty confident they made it worse because I think in retrospect I was so anxious about sleeping and using the bathroom at night that this went on for years longer than it would have if my parents had simply been understanding and used a different solution.
That’s called bad parenting, do better for your children and nighttime train them the right way. Accidents might still happen but it won’t be every single night and you won’t need pull ups for years on end.
You get that my parents nighttime trained me "right away", right? Like exactly what you are suggesting. And I still had accidents all the time. And as it went on they got frustrated and tried to shame me into not wetting the bed. Which is what happens when people get it in their heads that if a child is wetting the bed past age 3 or 4, it must be a choice they are making and just need to be broken of.
When you tell parents "just train them right away and then they won't have accidents, or not that often, and it will be done," you are setting up parents whose kids will continue to have accidents regularly, for year, for failure. You are telling them "oh you must not have done it right."
What you don't understand is that your kids trained quickly and easily and there were few accidents. Not all parents have your experience. Stop acting like an expert based on your experience with 1-2 kids. It's tiresome.
OP here.
I don't have the slightest idea of how to 'train' DS to not do this. Our youngest simply started staying dry at night about 2 months after we finished daytime potty training, and that was the end of that.
ODS however, sleeps like the dead, and seems to have zero clue of when he's actually peeing. In fact, we found out he pees multiple times each night still. I'm not sure training is something that would be effective for him. He's just a heavy sleeper, and a heavy wetter.
have you ever tried?
I posted above that we trained out son at 3. I only tried it because people on here told me to in order to get him to poop train him. We committed to giving it 2 full weeks of no diapers. It was a pain waking up to change his sheets, but sure enough after 2 weeks he was trained and never wet the bed again. He is now 12 and a very solid sleeper. He didn't even wake up when a fire alarm went off in his room once.
Please stop. You don't know what you are talking about. Your child's body was ready. OP's child's body is not ready. Don't talk about things you don't know anything about.
OP - my child was a heavy sleeper and grew out of this around 7. Hang in there.
Anonymous
06/02/2022 11:51
Subject: So. tired. of buying night Pull-ups...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You have to toilet train for nighttime, did you just skip that part of the process?
WTF are you talking about? I did nothing to toilet train my kids at night. We toilet trained them, and then they naturally stopped peeing at night. Which is what happens as most bodies mature a bit. For some kids, it's takes a long time. There is no "training", only mitigation straegies. The kid is asleep. It's not a conscious choice that they are making. Shame does not fix it! Surprise!
You don’t shame them you teach them just like you do during the daytime.
Please tell me how you teach a child to wake up to pee. It it quite literally a biological feedback thing that you can not TRAIN. It has to mature. You can try to help (waking them up, limiting liquids) but I am going to assume by 7 years old these parents have tried QUITE A FEW THINGS. Time is often the best thing here. And it sucks and it's hard. But teaching a kid who is ASLEEP and is not making a choice is pretty silly in my book. Like, how did you teach your kids to stop having nightmares?
Angry much?
Anonymous
06/02/2022 11:51
Subject: So. tired. of buying night Pull-ups...
I was a bed wetter. Had to grow out of it. Think I was 11. Some was prob anxiety some developmental. It wasnt every night, but most. I slept really deeply as well. We limited liquids at night, mom would wake me up for a night Pre (thank you- sorry mom), I had a plastic sheet under sheets and a thick pad or towel under me. No sleepovers. I really can’t remember what changed things but I think it was mostly time.
I would try working with a therapist if possible and please place your child’s mattress as soon as they’re done bedwetting. My parents didn’t do that and it was shameful to see the stains into my teens. I bought myself a new bed and mattress in high school
I would try working with a therapist if possible and please place your child’s mattress as soon as they’re done bedwetting. My parents didn’t do that and it was shameful to see the stains into my teens. I bought myself a new bed and mattress in high school
Anonymous
06/02/2022 11:49
Subject: So. tired. of buying night Pull-ups...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, I assume you have talked to his doctor etc. about all of this?
Yes we have. Absolutely no medical issues causing it. Dr. basically said it's a combination of him being a big sleeper (always has been) and genetics (DH had occasional accidents until he was 11).
So you know the answer, get over it.
You can try a bed wetting alarm or a dream pee if you want, but seriously start acting like a grown up and have some empathy for your child instead of being a jerk about it.
Anonymous
06/02/2022 11:47
Subject: So. tired. of buying night Pull-ups...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, I assume you have talked to his doctor etc. about all of this?
Yes we have. Absolutely no medical issues causing it. Dr. basically said it's a combination of him being a big sleeper (always has been) and genetics (DH had occasional accidents until he was 11).
Well you answered your question ^^
Given Dh took longer than average, you'll be buying ninjamas or night pull-ups for 2+ more yrs.
It's just how your kid is.
Anonymous
06/02/2022 11:47
Subject: So. tired. of buying night Pull-ups...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You have to toilet train for nighttime, did you just skip that part of the process?
WTF are you talking about? I did nothing to toilet train my kids at night. We toilet trained them, and then they naturally stopped peeing at night. Which is what happens as most bodies mature a bit. For some kids, it's takes a long time. There is no "training", only mitigation straegies. The kid is asleep. It's not a conscious choice that they are making. Shame does not fix it! Surprise!
Thank you. My kid is younger than OPs but I am gearing myself up for being in the same boat because I had nighttime accidents into middle school and pediatrician said there's a strong genetic component.
My parents night trained me, by the way -- I still had nighttime accidents because my body simply would not wake me up to go. My parents absolutely did shame me -- I got used to stripping the bed and washing the sheets myself, making it back up myself, before going to bed, sometimes while my parents angrily watched over me saying stuff like "see, this is what happens, we should all be asleep". Even these "consequences" did not help me. In fact, I feel pretty confident they made it worse because I think in retrospect I was so anxious about sleeping and using the bathroom at night that this went on for years longer than it would have if my parents had simply been understanding and used a different solution.
That’s called bad parenting, do better for your children and nighttime train them the right way. Accidents might still happen but it won’t be every single night and you won’t need pull ups for years on end.
You get that my parents nighttime trained me "right away", right? Like exactly what you are suggesting. And I still had accidents all the time. And as it went on they got frustrated and tried to shame me into not wetting the bed. Which is what happens when people get it in their heads that if a child is wetting the bed past age 3 or 4, it must be a choice they are making and just need to be broken of.
When you tell parents "just train them right away and then they won't have accidents, or not that often, and it will be done," you are setting up parents whose kids will continue to have accidents regularly, for year, for failure. You are telling them "oh you must not have done it right."
What you don't understand is that your kids trained quickly and easily and there were few accidents. Not all parents have your experience. Stop acting like an expert based on your experience with 1-2 kids. It's tiresome.
Your parents shamed and berated you, that’s not part of good nighttime training or ever good parenting. My experience is based on hundreds of children, not 2, and I tell parents training may take a couple months and accidents might still happen. The point is that they get rid of nighttime diapers.
Anonymous
06/02/2022 11:43
Subject: So. tired. of buying night Pull-ups...
OP, you may want to ask for help on this over at the SN board. I'd bet they would have better suggestions for you, and be less judgemental.
Anonymous
06/02/2022 11:42
Subject: So. tired. of buying night Pull-ups...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You have to toilet train for nighttime, did you just skip that part of the process?
WTF are you talking about? I did nothing to toilet train my kids at night. We toilet trained them, and then they naturally stopped peeing at night. Which is what happens as most bodies mature a bit. For some kids, it's takes a long time. There is no "training", only mitigation straegies. The kid is asleep. It's not a conscious choice that they are making. Shame does not fix it! Surprise!
You don’t shame them you teach them just like you do during the daytime.
Please tell me how you teach a child to wake up to pee. It it quite literally a biological feedback thing that you can not TRAIN. It has to mature. You can try to help (waking them up, limiting liquids) but I am going to assume by 7 years old these parents have tried QUITE A FEW THINGS. Time is often the best thing here. And it sucks and it's hard. But teaching a kid who is ASLEEP and is not making a choice is pretty silly in my book. Like, how did you teach your kids to stop having nightmares?
you aren't' training them to wake up to pee. You are training them to not wake up and pee in their bed. They are often more aware than you think. Without the diaper safety net they quickly learn that peeing in bed means getting wet and having to wake up to change the sheets.
I posted above that we trained our son. I also had the disclaimer that he would wake up when he wet the bed. if he was truly sleeping through it I don't know that it would have worked.
Anonymous
06/02/2022 11:40
Subject: So. tired. of buying night Pull-ups...
I have 5 kids
3 of my kids had night time accidents at 7 I believe they stopped when they were 9 or 10 and one was either 15-17 years old. nothing was wrong just a weak bladder DDAVP might help, but not sure if they will give them meds at 7.
3 of my kids had night time accidents at 7 I believe they stopped when they were 9 or 10 and one was either 15-17 years old. nothing was wrong just a weak bladder DDAVP might help, but not sure if they will give them meds at 7.
Anonymous
06/02/2022 11:40
Subject: So. tired. of buying night Pull-ups...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You have to toilet train for nighttime, did you just skip that part of the process?
WTF are you talking about? I did nothing to toilet train my kids at night. We toilet trained them, and then they naturally stopped peeing at night. Which is what happens as most bodies mature a bit. For some kids, it's takes a long time. There is no "training", only mitigation straegies. The kid is asleep. It's not a conscious choice that they are making. Shame does not fix it! Surprise!
Thank you. My kid is younger than OPs but I am gearing myself up for being in the same boat because I had nighttime accidents into middle school and pediatrician said there's a strong genetic component.
My parents night trained me, by the way -- I still had nighttime accidents because my body simply would not wake me up to go. My parents absolutely did shame me -- I got used to stripping the bed and washing the sheets myself, making it back up myself, before going to bed, sometimes while my parents angrily watched over me saying stuff like "see, this is what happens, we should all be asleep". Even these "consequences" did not help me. In fact, I feel pretty confident they made it worse because I think in retrospect I was so anxious about sleeping and using the bathroom at night that this went on for years longer than it would have if my parents had simply been understanding and used a different solution.
That’s called bad parenting, do better for your children and nighttime train them the right way. Accidents might still happen but it won’t be every single night and you won’t need pull ups for years on end.
You get that my parents nighttime trained me "right away", right? Like exactly what you are suggesting. And I still had accidents all the time. And as it went on they got frustrated and tried to shame me into not wetting the bed. Which is what happens when people get it in their heads that if a child is wetting the bed past age 3 or 4, it must be a choice they are making and just need to be broken of.
When you tell parents "just train them right away and then they won't have accidents, or not that often, and it will be done," you are setting up parents whose kids will continue to have accidents regularly, for year, for failure. You are telling them "oh you must not have done it right."
What you don't understand is that your kids trained quickly and easily and there were few accidents. Not all parents have your experience. Stop acting like an expert based on your experience with 1-2 kids. It's tiresome.
OP here.
I don't have the slightest idea of how to 'train' DS to not do this. Our youngest simply started staying dry at night about 2 months after we finished daytime potty training, and that was the end of that.
ODS however, sleeps like the dead, and seems to have zero clue of when he's actually peeing. In fact, we found out he pees multiple times each night still. I'm not sure training is something that would be effective for him. He's just a heavy sleeper, and a heavy wetter.
have you ever tried?
I posted above that we trained out son at 3. I only tried it because people on here told me to in order to get him to poop train him. We committed to giving it 2 full weeks of no diapers. It was a pain waking up to change his sheets, but sure enough after 2 weeks he was trained and never wet the bed again. He is now 12 and a very solid sleeper. He didn't even wake up when a fire alarm went off in his room once.
Anonymous
06/02/2022 11:38
Subject: So. tired. of buying night Pull-ups...
It way more common than you think, One of my DS stopped bedwetting when he was a teen, so did my step daughter, They gave me DS meds that helped him but it gave him headcase so he only took the meds sometimes.
Anonymous
06/02/2022 11:34
Subject: So. tired. of buying night Pull-ups...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You have to toilet train for nighttime, did you just skip that part of the process?
WTF are you talking about? I did nothing to toilet train my kids at night. We toilet trained them, and then they naturally stopped peeing at night. Which is what happens as most bodies mature a bit. For some kids, it's takes a long time. There is no "training", only mitigation straegies. The kid is asleep. It's not a conscious choice that they are making. Shame does not fix it! Surprise!
You don’t shame them you teach them just like you do during the daytime.
Please tell me how you teach a child to wake up to pee. It it quite literally a biological feedback thing that you can not TRAIN. It has to mature. You can try to help (waking them up, limiting liquids) but I am going to assume by 7 years old these parents have tried QUITE A FEW THINGS. Time is often the best thing here. And it sucks and it's hard. But teaching a kid who is ASLEEP and is not making a choice is pretty silly in my book. Like, how did you teach your kids to stop having nightmares?