Anonymous
Post 05/26/2022 12:05     Subject: Why FCPS elementary schools have no SROs.
Anonymous wrote:Would SROs also watch a shooter enter a building and then bravely threaten to taser parents trying to enter to save their children while the police wait for a swat team?

+1 the literally made it worse while those children were trapped for 40 minutes.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2022 12:05     Subject: Why FCPS elementary schools have no SROs.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think the TX school shooting was Example #1 of why an SRO at an elementary school is pretty useless.

At High Schools, SROs are dealing with fights, and drugs and establishing relationships with kids who might get into fights and drugs. There is a point to having SROs at High Schools on a regular basis.

At Elementary Schools, the daily situation if different. They don't have the same problems in elementary schools that they have in high schools.

AND, AS WE HAVE SEEN IN TX, one SRO with a little pistol, is not going to do ANYTHING to combat or stop a guy with military grade armor and an AR-15.

Any "benefit" for SROs in elementary school just doesn't outweigh the cost. They aren't that useful. The reason they had one in the TX school is probably because they are so close to the border and they do have guys who run from being chased by the Border Patrol people. So maybe an SRO is useful to "protect" against a single guy with no gun. But, an SRO isn't going to stop a guy with body armor and an AR-15.

It would be a lot more effective to make AR-15's illegal.


This is a meaningless post. Unless you have data to back up what you’re saying, it’s pure speculation.


Not "speculation."

Instead, according to witness and police accounts, Salvador Rolando Ramos emerged wearing tactical gear and carrying an AR-15-style rifle he bought this month, just after his 18th birthday. Bystanders scattered as Ramos hopped a fence, exchanged gunfire with a school police officer and entered through a side door to Robb Elementary. Inside, he embarked on a deadly rampage that brought the national scourge of school shootings to a fourth-grade classroom in this southern Texas town.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2022 12:02     Subject: Why FCPS elementary schools have no SROs.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:School Board member Omeish wants to remove SROs like Alexandria public schools did.


Shut up.


Why are you saying shut up? It’s a fact.


Because you come on here and bash this woman on every single thread and nobody cares that you hate her.

SROs were useless in TX, we don't need them. We need to work together to get rid of these guns and pass better background laws - FEDERAL background laws.


I’ve never bashed her here or anywhere else; you must be confusing me with someone else. I’m not bashing her now. I’m stating a fact. She doesn’t want SROs in schools. If that angers you, direct your anger to her and write to the school board instead of wasting your time here. No one knows that “SROs were useless” in Texas because no one knows all of the details yet. And SROs have been shown to be effective in thwarting school violence in Fairfax County. See above for school safety recommendations from 2018.


The recommendations dont cite to anything specific. We know the SROs in Parkland and Texas were utterly useless
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2022 11:50     Subject: Why FCPS elementary schools have no SROs.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:School Board member Omeish wants to remove SROs like Alexandria public schools did.


Shut up.


Why are you saying shut up? It’s a fact.


Because you come on here and bash this woman on every single thread and nobody cares that you hate her.

SROs were useless in TX, we don't need them. We need to work together to get rid of these guns and pass better background laws - FEDERAL background laws.


I’ve never bashed her here or anywhere else; you must be confusing me with someone else. I’m not bashing her now. I’m stating a fact. She doesn’t want SROs in schools. If that angers you, direct your anger to her and write to the school board instead of wasting your time here. No one knows that “SROs were useless” in Texas because no one knows all of the details yet. And SROs have been shown to be effective in thwarting school violence in Fairfax County. See above for school safety recommendations from 2018.


The SRO in TX WAS useless. The SRO tried to shoot at the perpetrator, the bullets didn't penetrate the perpetrator. The perpetrator SHOT the SRO. They were completely mis-matched in firepower and protective gear. That is fact.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2022 11:33     Subject: Why FCPS elementary schools have no SROs.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:School Board member Omeish wants to remove SROs like Alexandria public schools did.


Shut up.


Why are you saying shut up? It’s a fact.


Because you come on here and bash this woman on every single thread and nobody cares that you hate her.

SROs were useless in TX, we don't need them. We need to work together to get rid of these guns and pass better background laws - FEDERAL background laws.


I’ve never bashed her here or anywhere else; you must be confusing me with someone else. I’m not bashing her now. I’m stating a fact. She doesn’t want SROs in schools. If that angers you, direct your anger to her and write to the school board instead of wasting your time here. No one knows that “SROs were useless” in Texas because no one knows all of the details yet. And SROs have been shown to be effective in thwarting school violence in Fairfax County. See above for school safety recommendations from 2018.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2022 11:28     Subject: Why FCPS elementary schools have no SROs.
Anonymous wrote:I think the TX school shooting was Example #1 of why an SRO at an elementary school is pretty useless.

At High Schools, SROs are dealing with fights, and drugs and establishing relationships with kids who might get into fights and drugs. There is a point to having SROs at High Schools on a regular basis.

At Elementary Schools, the daily situation if different. They don't have the same problems in elementary schools that they have in high schools.

AND, AS WE HAVE SEEN IN TX, one SRO with a little pistol, is not going to do ANYTHING to combat or stop a guy with military grade armor and an AR-15.

Any "benefit" for SROs in elementary school just doesn't outweigh the cost. They aren't that useful. The reason they had one in the TX school is probably because they are so close to the border and they do have guys who run from being chased by the Border Patrol people. So maybe an SRO is useful to "protect" against a single guy with no gun. But, an SRO isn't going to stop a guy with body armor and an AR-15.

It would be a lot more effective to make AR-15's illegal.


This is a meaningless post. Unless you have data to back up what you’re saying, it’s pure speculation.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2022 11:24     Subject: Re:Why FCPS elementary schools have no SROs.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The school officer in Uvalde could not stop the armed shooter from entering the school and slaughtering a classroom of children. SROs are not the answer here.


SROs are not the answer, getting rid of semi-automatic machine guns is the answer. WTF, OP. Are you also going to claim that this is because of mental health issues and video games?


According to this, SROs play an important role, and it was recommended that FCPS have a school security presence in elementary schools in 2018. I attended a school safety meeting with the County and FCPS and the Sheriff said the number one deterrent to school shootings was qualified SROs who build relationships with students and are seen as trustworthy. There were multiple examples provided where an SRO was told about threats or discovered threats on social media.

https://www.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/AZR74F100908/$file/Security%20Review%20narrative%20Final.pdf#page26

Anonymous
Post 05/26/2022 11:15     Subject: Why FCPS elementary schools have no SROs.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:School Board member Omeish wants to remove SROs like Alexandria public schools did.


Shut up.


Why are you saying shut up? It’s a fact.


Because you come on here and bash this woman on every single thread and nobody cares that you hate her.

SROs were useless in TX, we don't need them. We need to work together to get rid of these guns and pass better background laws - FEDERAL background laws.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2022 11:09     Subject: Re:Why FCPS elementary schools have no SROs.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The school officer in Uvalde could not stop the armed shooter from entering the school and slaughtering a classroom of children. SROs are not the answer here.


SROs are not the answer, getting rid of semi-automatic machine guns is the answer. WTF, OP. Are you also going to claim that this is because of mental health issues and video games?


What is a semi-automatic machine gun?

Anonymous
Post 05/26/2022 10:57     Subject: Why FCPS elementary schools have no SROs.
I think the TX school shooting was Example #1 of why an SRO at an elementary school is pretty useless.

At High Schools, SROs are dealing with fights, and drugs and establishing relationships with kids who might get into fights and drugs. There is a point to having SROs at High Schools on a regular basis.

At Elementary Schools, the daily situation if different. They don't have the same problems in elementary schools that they have in high schools.

AND, AS WE HAVE SEEN IN TX, one SRO with a little pistol, is not going to do ANYTHING to combat or stop a guy with military grade armor and an AR-15.

Any "benefit" for SROs in elementary school just doesn't outweigh the cost. They aren't that useful. The reason they had one in the TX school is probably because they are so close to the border and they do have guys who run from being chased by the Border Patrol people. So maybe an SRO is useful to "protect" against a single guy with no gun. But, an SRO isn't going to stop a guy with body armor and an AR-15.

It would be a lot more effective to make AR-15's illegal.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2022 10:55     Subject: Re:Why FCPS elementary schools have no SROs.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The school officer in Uvalde could not stop the armed shooter from entering the school and slaughtering a classroom of children. SROs are not the answer here.


+1 (this has also been true at other schools)


+1.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2022 10:55     Subject: Why FCPS elementary schools have no SROs.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:School Board member Omeish wants to remove SROs like Alexandria public schools did.


Shut up.


Why are you saying shut up? It’s a fact.


It's a fact that the SRO did literally nothing to stop Ulvada or Parkland
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2022 10:54     Subject: Why FCPS elementary schools have no SROs.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:School Board member Omeish wants to remove SROs like Alexandria public schools did.


Shut up.


Why are you saying shut up? It’s a fact.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2022 10:53     Subject: Why FCPS elementary schools have no SROs.
Anonymous wrote:School Board member Omeish wants to remove SROs like Alexandria public schools did.


Shut up.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2022 10:52     Subject: Re:Why FCPS elementary schools have no SROs.
Anonymous wrote:The school officer in Uvalde could not stop the armed shooter from entering the school and slaughtering a classroom of children. SROs are not the answer here.


SROs are not the answer, getting rid of semi-automatic machine guns is the answer. WTF, OP. Are you also going to claim that this is because of mental health issues and video games?