Drunk driving comparison is spot on, PP. Something that used to be pretty common but was finally shown to be the height of selfishness and recklessness. Still done by the super trashy and those with god complexes. In some ways, DUI’s were the original cancel culture.

I see this as morally equivalent to drunk driving.

Anonymous wrote:NRA isn't the issue.

Enough with the drama. She doesn't need someone like you in her life.

Wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve distanced myself from my gun loving family. I’m polite. I’ll attend family gatherings. But I’ve lost all respect for them. As far as I’m concerned, if you voted Republican, you killed those babies.

Stop blaming republicans. They didn't kill those kids. This was a very troubled young man who didn't get the help he needed from his parents/family, school and community. Lets start there.

But it is Republicans who refuse to ban AR-15's, which are weapons of war. Troubled people of any age should not be able to purchase these guns. He didn't even have a driver's licence but he could legally purchase weapons of war and body armor. Only a fool or a Republican thinks this is o.k.!

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve distanced myself from my gun loving family. I’m polite. I’ll attend family gatherings. But I’ve lost all respect for them. As far as I’m concerned, if you voted Republican, you killed those babies.

Stop blaming republicans. They didn't kill those kids. This was a very troubled young man who didn't get the help he needed from his parents/family, school and community. Lets start there.

I’ll blame Abbot, thank you. I saw he tweeted that he wanted Texas to be #1 in gun sales. He asked Texans to step it up several years ago.

He has the power to do something. He didn’t.

Anonymous wrote:Come on people, OP is being dramatic, anyone here disagree NRA and its money is the main problem in US? They literally buy politicians.

They write the gun laws that have legalized concealed carry, open carry, permitless carry, etc.

I'm the hunting poster who posted earlier.

I just wanted to add that a lot of people in rural areas see the NRA permeate their lives in a beneficial, community-minded way. It's like the church-goer who tithes and doesn't realize they're supporting sex abuse, and the cover-up of same. The NRA sponsors tons of fun stuff, kids' activities, fairs, barn events... and so people see it as a benign force in their lives. Then when the NRA spokesman, a pillar of local society, offers everyone a round of beers and complains that liberals in Washington want to take away their guns (that they use for shooting vermin), which side are they going to be on???

It's like living in Palestine and being asked to reject Hamas, a terrorist organization which also funds local hospitals and schools, or living in Columbia and being asked to reject the local all-powerful gang, which props up the entire community with its money and manages things better than the local government.

Did I just compare the NRA to a terrorist org and a drug gang? Yes I did.

And it's HARD to extirpate such entities from the local communities they have embedded themselves into, under pretense of doing good.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve distanced myself from my gun loving family. I’m polite. I’ll attend family gatherings. But I’ve lost all respect for them. As far as I’m concerned, if you voted Republican, you killed those babies.

Stop blaming republicans. They didn't kill those kids. This was a very troubled young man who didn't get the help he needed from his parents/family, school and community. Lets start there.

Everyplace has troubled young men. Every place does not have republican policies allowing them to buy assault rifles.

If they didn't buy them legally, they just would buy illegal ones or find another option. Guns are not the problem, people are.

So what? Can we at least TRY?! I'm SO sick of this god damn argument. We don't say that about anything else, do we? "Well, people who really want to find a way to bomb will find a way regardless, so let's make bombs accessible to everyone." "If a 13 year old really wanted to drive a car, they'll just do it illegally." yeah, true, but we still make kids wait until their 16 to LEGALLY drive a car.

Yeah, a terrorist who really wants to hijack a plane can probably get through security and do it, but we still have security at airports and laws about what you can and cannot bring on a plane to make it more difficult to do so.

Someone who really wants to shoplift still will, but that doesn't mean we throw our hands up in the air and say "oh well." Stores have security tags on items, cameras, detectors at exits, etc. to make it MORE DIFFICULT TO DO SO.

It's illegal to own a pet lion, but if I was determined to do it...I'm sure could find a way to get one on the black market. And people do. Does that mean the US Fish and Wildlife, etc. should just get rid of all exotic pet ownership/importation laws cuz, ya know, people can (and do) find a way to do things illegally if they really want to?

Worms for brain, I swear.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve distanced myself from my gun loving family. I’m polite. I’ll attend family gatherings. But I’ve lost all respect for them. As far as I’m concerned, if you voted Republican, you killed those babies.

Stop blaming republicans. They didn't kill those kids. This was a very troubled young man who didn't get the help he needed from his parents/family, school and community. Lets start there.

Everyplace has troubled young men. Every place does not have republican policies allowing them to buy assault rifles.

If they didn't buy them legally, they just would buy illegal ones or find another option. Guns are not the problem, people are.

"No way to stop this," say residents of the only country on Earth where this happens regularly.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve distanced myself from my gun loving family. I’m polite. I’ll attend family gatherings. But I’ve lost all respect for them. As far as I’m concerned, if you voted Republican, you killed those babies.

Stop blaming republicans. They didn't kill those kids. This was a very troubled young man who didn't get the help he needed from his parents/family, school and community. Lets start there.

No. Let’s start with the politicians willing to allow kids be killed because of money. It is not all republicans, but it is 100 percent at the feet of any congressmen who take the NRAs money. We can do that at the same time we work on mental health. But easy access to guns turns mental health crisis into shooting sprees.

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Anonymous wrote:Strategies like the OP’s may be our only hope. Gun rights people need their selfishness called out and exposed…by family members, colleagues, followers. Their movement is facilitating the executions of children. I’m not saying we should shame responsible gun owners or hunters. But NRA enthusiasts and gun show attendees? People who have personal arsenals? Gun lobbysits? Those who proudly want assault weapons on the consumer market? Yes. Shaming them is the only way forward. Their proclivities need to be seen as niche, cruel, greedy and most of all *backwards*.

We’ve made huge societal strides on issues as varied as corporal punishment in schools, animal welfare and gay rights. Public perception must change and it can begin within families, painful as that may be.

I agree.

And my family owns guns for hunting. None of us belong to any gun-related organization. We are anti-gun lobby and want strict gun control. We do not vote for idiots who are bought and sold by the NRA or who associate themselves with gun rights.

The step is a gun ban. We are OK with that.

Thank you for being responsible.

What would you think about requiring that people who want to hunt be required to obtain guns from a state-run repository at a hunting range, use them for hunting, and then return them?

I understand that’s not feasible for people like farmers, who need to use guns regularly to deal with animals that threaten their crops, but it would seem that controlling the guns used for hunting is potentially possible.

Here's the thing, no one is saying anything about a hunter/farmer or reasonable home owner owning a gun or even a few. Why in the heck does one need a private arsenal full of automated and semi automated weapons used by military and police? You don't, but those are the loudest blowhards about their personal rights being infringed because they want to walk into a gun show and be able to buy 50 guns with no restrictions.

Guns are the problem.




People will always have mental health issues.
People will always have dark impulses.

It is EASIER to take away the guns than it is to identify and manage complex mental health problems and impulse issues.

WHY IS THAT NOT OBVIOUS TO EVERYONE?




Oh, I forgot. The fake news gun lobby has been spreading lies to people for more than a hundred years.

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Anonymous wrote:Strategies like the OP’s may be our only hope. Gun rights people need their selfishness called out and exposed…by family members, colleagues, followers. Their movement is facilitating the executions of children. I’m not saying we should shame responsible gun owners or hunters. But NRA enthusiasts and gun show attendees? People who have personal arsenals? Gun lobbysits? Those who proudly want assault weapons on the consumer market? Yes. Shaming them is the only way forward. Their proclivities need to be seen as niche, cruel, greedy and most of all *backwards*.

We’ve made huge societal strides on issues as varied as corporal punishment in schools, animal welfare and gay rights. Public perception must change and it can begin within families, painful as that may be.

I agree.

And my family owns guns for hunting. None of us belong to any gun-related organization. We are anti-gun lobby and want strict gun control. We do not vote for idiots who are bought and sold by the NRA or who associate themselves with gun rights.

The step is a gun ban. We are OK with that.

Thank you for being responsible.

What would you think about requiring that people who want to hunt be required to obtain guns from a state-run repository at a hunting range, use them for hunting, and then return them?

I understand that’s not feasible for people like farmers, who need to use guns regularly to deal with animals that threaten their crops, but it would seem that controlling the guns used for hunting is potentially possible.

I think it's more important to ban certain types of guns, the ones which have the capacity to kill multiple people in a few seconds (automatic category - used in mass shootings), and the ones that can operate easily at short range (handguns - most commonly used in homicides apart from mass shootings for concealment and carry purposes). My uncle would rather keep his firearms on his property and use them at will. He has an equestrian center and does need to shoot the occasional vermin.

My point is that reasonable people, even those who are close to the land and hunt, should be on the gun ban side. No one needs a military grade, high-tech weapon!!! The true hunter pitches his wits against the hunted and gives them a sporting chance... unlike the despicable shooting Instagrammed by some high-profile politicians and sons of. Time to get back to bolt-action rifle and learn to aim.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve distanced myself from my gun loving family. I’m polite. I’ll attend family gatherings. But I’ve lost all respect for them. As far as I’m concerned, if you voted Republican, you killed those babies.

Stop blaming republicans. They didn't kill those kids. This was a very troubled young man who didn't get the help he needed from his parents/family, school and community. Lets start there.

Everyplace has troubled young men. Every place does not have republican policies allowing them to buy assault rifles.

If they didn't buy them legally, they just would buy illegal ones or find another option. Guns are not the problem, people are.

well then let's just regulate the people buying them with background checks, waiting periods, ban on assault rifles and high capacity ammo, no gun shows. Regulate them like they are regulating womens bodies and birth control. Problem solved.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve distanced myself from my gun loving family. I’m polite. I’ll attend family gatherings. But I’ve lost all respect for them. As far as I’m concerned, if you voted Republican, you killed those babies.

Stop blaming republicans. They didn't kill those kids. This was a very troubled young man who didn't get the help he needed from his parents/family, school and community. Lets start there.

Republicans don’t want universal health care either. So yeah, they’re to blame all around.