What about doggie diapers? Maybe your mom would go for that.

Two of my cousins are vets. Maybe the profession makes one very practical but neither of them would have positive feelings about this set up. They are really annoyed when pet owners keep the animals alive when it is clear that euthanasia is the best course. The animals are in a lot of discomfort but continue to "live" for the owner, not the pet's sake. I don't know if these dogs have reached that point, but it doesn't sound like their lives are particularly great at the moment. Animals really do not like living among their messes.

Also, boot camp is very expensive. We did it for two weeks with what was a recently adopted and fairly cranky 6 year old rescue and made some progress, enough to allow us to keep him. He became more bonded over time. But I def would not put that money into older dogs unless the mom has it available.

OP, I really feel for you. My mom had similar challenges. We were fortunate to find her a spot in a memory care unit, which was part of a larger community. She had her moments, but she was able to live there for her last four years. She liked the staff and most of her floor mates. I really have no idea what we would have done if she had been kicked out.

GL to you and your sister!

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Anonymous wrote:Regime the dogs. Maybe the new owners will allow you to take them to visit every once in awhile?

What sane person wants ill behaved senior dogs?

Oh there are people who live on lovely farms and desperately want old, incontinent, aggressive dogs. You just have to take them to a “no kill” shelter and walk away.

Anonymous wrote:Cheap quick option so she can keep them- give the dogs CBD to try to calm them down?

Charlotte's Web (a trusted CBD maker) has treats for dogs. Try them. Petco or the like stores should have them, maybe even vitamin shoppe where they sell the human cbd is worth a look.

Can you give her some too to calm her down?

Just a $50 shot to try.

$50 snake oil is not a solution to this problem.

Dogwalker 2x a day.

Anonymous wrote:Regime the dogs. Maybe the new owners will allow you to take them to visit every once in awhile?

What sane person wants ill behaved senior dogs?

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Anonymous wrote:OP here - thank you all who have weighed in with general and specific suggestions. It’s really just such a difficult situation because she is very much able to make her own decisions and has already said she will not under any circumstances get rid of her dogs (problematic on so many levels I know.) In any case she has worked out a compromise with the facility for now where she can stay and keep them and just has to pay an extra deep cleaning fee monthly. I honestly don’t know why the facility let her bring them. But again this is all somethings she worked out on her own not with our help. The dogs are old and I’m really hoping they’re just naturally at the end soon.

fwiw, maybe take dogs to vet to make sure there is nothing physically wrong? My dog was old and got bladder stones, which made her pee in the house. I paid for one surgery to remove the bladder stone and it came back. My vet kindly told me that it was time for me to let go of my dog. He explained that the dog doesn't like to live soiling itself and she was quite old and it would be a kindness to put her down. I was very grateful that he tactfully gave me permission in this way to make my pet more comfortable.

Yes, I hope your mother's dogs are receiving adequate care. Pain, blindness, deafness, anxiety that comes with age, all lead to behavioral problems.

That is really up to OP’s mom, the owner.

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Anonymous wrote:All of you who are saying to take the mom's dogs away and kill them are disgusting.

Right -- got it. And your suggestion for where mom should live with the dogs is...?

There are numerous suggestions here for evaluating, training, and, if necessary, rehoming the dogs. Surely you can read.

Yeah, I can read. I read that OP's sister WHO IS A VET says they are absolutely not rehomable. And who exactly do you nominate for taking the dogs to a trainer and doing all the work that OP's mom clearly wasn't at all interested in doing in the first place?

Different poster. The fact a vet says they are not re-homable suggests the only humane thing is to put them to sleep unless someone on this board would like to save them and make them a personal project. The person who was wrong was the mother, not OP. The mother is doing a disservice to these dogs and putting others at risk.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All of you who are saying to take the mom's dogs away and kill them are disgusting.

Right -- got it. And your suggestion for where mom should live with the dogs is...?

There are numerous suggestions here for evaluating, training, and, if necessary, rehoming the dogs. Surely you can read.

Yeah, I can read. I read that OP's sister WHO IS A VET says they are absolutely not rehomable. And who exactly do you nominate for taking the dogs to a trainer and doing all the work that OP's mom clearly wasn't at all interested in doing in the first place?

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Anonymous wrote:OP here - thank you all who have weighed in with general and specific suggestions. It’s really just such a difficult situation because she is very much able to make her own decisions and has already said she will not under any circumstances get rid of her dogs (problematic on so many levels I know.) In any case she has worked out a compromise with the facility for now where she can stay and keep them and just has to pay an extra deep cleaning fee monthly. I honestly don’t know why the facility let her bring them. But again this is all somethings she worked out on her own not with our help. The dogs are old and I’m really hoping they’re just naturally at the end soon.

fwiw, maybe take dogs to vet to make sure there is nothing physically wrong? My dog was old and got bladder stones, which made her pee in the house. I paid for one surgery to remove the bladder stone and it came back. My vet kindly told me that it was time for me to let go of my dog. He explained that the dog doesn't like to live soiling itself and she was quite old and it would be a kindness to put her down. I was very grateful that he tactfully gave me permission in this way to make my pet more comfortable.

Yes, I hope your mother's dogs are receiving adequate care. Pain, blindness, deafness, anxiety that comes with age, all lead to behavioral problems.

Anonymous wrote:OP here - thank you all who have weighed in with general and specific suggestions. It’s really just such a difficult situation because she is very much able to make her own decisions and has already said she will not under any circumstances get rid of her dogs (problematic on so many levels I know.) In any case she has worked out a compromise with the facility for now where she can stay and keep them and just has to pay an extra deep cleaning fee monthly. I honestly don’t know why the facility let her bring them. But again this is all somethings she worked out on her own not with our help. The dogs are old and I’m really hoping they’re just naturally at the end soon.

fwiw, maybe take dogs to vet to make sure there is nothing physically wrong? My dog was old and got bladder stones, which made her pee in the house. I paid for one surgery to remove the bladder stone and it came back. My vet kindly told me that it was time for me to let go of my dog. He explained that the dog doesn't like to live soiling itself and she was quite old and it would be a kindness to put her down. I was very grateful that he tactfully gave me permission in this way to make my pet more comfortable.

OP here - thank you all who have weighed in with general and specific suggestions. It’s really just such a difficult situation because she is very much able to make her own decisions and has already said she will not under any circumstances get rid of her dogs (problematic on so many levels I know.) In any case she has worked out a compromise with the facility for now where she can stay and keep them and just has to pay an extra deep cleaning fee monthly. I honestly don’t know why the facility let her bring them. But again this is all somethings she worked out on her own not with our help. The dogs are old and I’m really hoping they’re just naturally at the end soon.

Anonymous wrote:I agree with the training/boot camp suggestion. Please reach out to Ridgeside K9 https://www.ridgesidek9.com/. They could at least assess the dogs and determine whether there's any hope for rehab or training. I think it's worth a try and to the PP's point, if they're able to stay for a several week residential training program, that takes the heat off the near term situation and gives you/her time to think through next steps. Your mom may also realize she can function without them in her life and that things are far less stressful without them wreaking havoc. Getting them some training may make them more either better behaved in your mom's home, or more re-homeable/adoptable than if they're just dropped at a shelter door without any training.

Sure, if OP has $4-5k to spend

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Anonymous wrote:All of you who are saying to take the mom's dogs away and kill them are disgusting.

Right -- got it. And your suggestion for where mom should live with the dogs is...?

There are numerous suggestions here for evaluating, training, and, if necessary, rehoming the dogs. Surely you can read.

Anonymous wrote:All of you who are saying to take the mom's dogs away and kill them are disgusting.

Right -- got it. And your suggestion for where mom should live with the dogs is...?