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Anonymous wrote:Yeah ok, so many people are quitting jobs but that's not a reason not to have a discussion about how to improve things at APS.

We have a big problem. Veteran teachers quitting. New teachers quitting after 4 months. Subs refusing to work at certain schools. Parents harassing and berating teachers.

Here are a few things that may help - I am sure the list is endless!

- Provide young/new teachers with the support from administration with regard to discipline
- Consistent discipline/class structure across grades and schools
- Engage parents of misbehaving children ASAP. Most of us want to know and help
- Drastically reduce iPad time. Many kids are on YouTube once they finish assignments. Yes, they know secret sites to get to even in elementary school

This is a classic response. Not one suggestion relating to parents! Don't you get it? It's not the students or the administrators the teachers are having a problem with. It's YOU.

NP—Most parents I’ve worked with over the years have been very supportive. Student behavior issues this year are far more intense than anything I’ve dealt with. Attention issues and learning gaps are also way out of control after many students spent the last 1.5 years playing video games instead of participating in virtual learning.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah ok, so many people are quitting jobs but that's not a reason not to have a discussion about how to improve things at APS.

We have a big problem. Veteran teachers quitting. New teachers quitting after 4 months. Subs refusing to work at certain schools. Parents harassing and berating teachers.

Here are a few things that may help - I am sure the list is endless!

- Provide young/new teachers with the support from administration with regard to discipline
- Consistent discipline/class structure across grades and schools
- Engage parents of misbehaving children ASAP. Most of us want to know and help
- Drastically reduce iPad time. Many kids are on YouTube once they finish assignments. Yes, they know secret sites to get to even in elementary school

This is a classic response. Not one suggestion relating to parents! Don't you get it? It's not the students or the administrators the teachers are having a problem with. It's YOU.

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Anonymous wrote:Pay more
Shrink class sizes
Stop allowing inclusion

WUT? In violation of federal law?

DP here, but I think it's pretty crazy that we expect teachers to handle such a broad range of abilities in one room, and that its become normal to empty a classroom because there is a child having a meltdown throwing things, who is a danger to themselves and others. We've burdened our teachers with too much.

We've burdened our teachers with parents like those on DCUM. That's what we've done. Instead of throwing out a bunch of bullsh8T suggestions based on what YOU as PARENTS want, if you want to make things better for teachers try asking TEACHERS what they want.

If I were an APS teacher with know-it-all parents like they have to deal with, not only would I quit -- I'd jump out the friggin window!!

Somebody needs a yoga class! It sounds like PP was being empathetic to teachers, not being a know it all! What has you so triggered?

Because it's obvious to me that that poster is arguing against "inclusion" because SHE doesn't want it in her kid's classroom, and I have no doubt that she's never spoken about the issue with any teacher. I really doubt that teachers are leaving APS in droves in protest over the system's "inclusion" policies. Cut me a break.

DP. It's usually poor form to call out other kids as being disruptive balls of fury who are harmful to the learning environment. It doesn't mean that some kids aren't a real problem for both the teachers and parents.

Except we're supposed to be talking about teachers. Not parents. So, alleged DP, I will ask again: how many teachers have you spoken to who have suggested that this is a major factor in their decision to leave APS?

I'm waiting.

No, I haven't talked to my kid's teacher about the child in the class who takes his shirt off each day and then throws things around the room. In third grade. You don't think that kind of daily experience would factor in to someone leaving a job? Why wouldn't it?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pay more
Shrink class sizes
Stop allowing inclusion

WUT? In violation of federal law?

DP here, but I think it's pretty crazy that we expect teachers to handle such a broad range of abilities in one room, and that its become normal to empty a classroom because there is a child having a meltdown throwing things, who is a danger to themselves and others. We've burdened our teachers with too much.

We've burdened our teachers with parents like those on DCUM. That's what we've done. Instead of throwing out a bunch of bullsh8T suggestions based on what YOU as PARENTS want, if you want to make things better for teachers try asking TEACHERS what they want.

If I were an APS teacher with know-it-all parents like they have to deal with, not only would I quit -- I'd jump out the friggin window!!

Somebody needs a yoga class! It sounds like PP was being empathetic to teachers, not being a know it all! What has you so triggered?

Because it's obvious to me that that poster is arguing against "inclusion" because SHE doesn't want it in her kid's classroom, and I have no doubt that she's never spoken about the issue with any teacher. I really doubt that teachers are leaving APS in droves in protest over the system's "inclusion" policies. Cut me a break.

DP. It's usually poor form to call out other kids as being disruptive balls of fury who are harmful to the learning environment. It doesn't mean that some kids aren't a real problem for both the teachers and parents.

Except we're supposed to be talking about teachers. Not parents. So, alleged DP, I will ask again: how many teachers have you spoken to who have suggested that this is a major factor in their decision to leave APS?

I'm waiting.

No, I haven't talked to my kid's teacher about the child in the class who takes his shirt off each day and then throws things around the room. In third grade. You don't think that kind of daily experience would factor in to someone leaving a job? Why wouldn't it?

I'm sure that's better than some of the nasty parents they have to deal with. The screaming and cursing they endured from parents *during class*.

It's really not, but it's also not an either/or. It's often both.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pay more
Shrink class sizes
Stop allowing inclusion

WUT? In violation of federal law?

DP here, but I think it's pretty crazy that we expect teachers to handle such a broad range of abilities in one room, and that its become normal to empty a classroom because there is a child having a meltdown throwing things, who is a danger to themselves and others. We've burdened our teachers with too much.

We've burdened our teachers with parents like those on DCUM. That's what we've done. Instead of throwing out a bunch of bullsh8T suggestions based on what YOU as PARENTS want, if you want to make things better for teachers try asking TEACHERS what they want.

If I were an APS teacher with know-it-all parents like they have to deal with, not only would I quit -- I'd jump out the friggin window!!

Somebody needs a yoga class! It sounds like PP was being empathetic to teachers, not being a know it all! What has you so triggered?

Because it's obvious to me that that poster is arguing against "inclusion" because SHE doesn't want it in her kid's classroom, and I have no doubt that she's never spoken about the issue with any teacher. I really doubt that teachers are leaving APS in droves in protest over the system's "inclusion" policies. Cut me a break.

DP. It's usually poor form to call out other kids as being disruptive balls of fury who are harmful to the learning environment. It doesn't mean that some kids aren't a real problem for both the teachers and parents.

Except we're supposed to be talking about teachers. Not parents. So, alleged DP, I will ask again: how many teachers have you spoken to who have suggested that this is a major factor in their decision to leave APS?

I'm waiting.

No, I haven't talked to my kid's teacher about the child in the class who takes his shirt off each day and then throws things around the room. In third grade. You don't think that kind of daily experience would factor in to someone leaving a job? Why wouldn't it?

I'm sure that's better than some of the nasty parents they have to deal with. The screaming and cursing they endured from parents *during class*.

Anonymous wrote:Not a teacher but I am outta there. I don't know what it's going to take for school districts to realize that they need to really start competing with the private sector on some features and benefits of their operations roles. Duran, John Mayo, etc are completely stuck in the past.

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Anonymous wrote:Good for them. I hope they find happiness

+1

I hate to see good teachers go, but no one should be subject to the abuses of the last few years.

If any of them are the teachers who refused to work in Fall 2020 (while their private school and non-blue area counterparts went to school just fine), then see you later. They owe children an apology too for how awfully they treated them.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah ok, so many people are quitting jobs but that's not a reason not to have a discussion about how to improve things at APS.

We have a big problem. Veteran teachers quitting. New teachers quitting after 4 months. Subs refusing to work at certain schools. Parents harassing and berating teachers.

Here are a few things that may help - I am sure the list is endless!

- Provide young/new teachers with the support from administration with regard to discipline
- Consistent discipline/class structure across grades and schools
- Engage parents of misbehaving children ASAP. Most of us want to know and help
- Drastically reduce iPad time. Many kids are on YouTube once they finish assignments. Yes, they know secret sites to get to even in elementary school

This is a classic response. Not one suggestion relating to parents!

Don't you get it? It's not the students or the administrators the teachers are having a problem with. It's YOU.

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Anonymous wrote:Teaching has particularly been awful the past two years, and we realized most parents don't care if we get sick and die. It's time for a new career, and is not specific to APS.

Stop with the hyperbole. Lots of people had to work in person.

Anonymous wrote:Teaching has particularly been awful the past two years, and we realized most parents don't care if we get sick and die. It's time for a new career, and is not specific to APS.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pay more
Shrink class sizes
Stop allowing inclusion

WUT? In violation of federal law?

DP here, but I think it's pretty crazy that we expect teachers to handle such a broad range of abilities in one room, and that its become normal to empty a classroom because there is a child having a meltdown throwing things, who is a danger to themselves and others. We've burdened our teachers with too much.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good for them. I hope they find happiness

+1

I hate to see good teachers go, but no one should be subject to the abuses of the last few years.

If any of them are the teachers who refused to work in Fall 2020 (while their private school and non-blue area counterparts went to school just fine), then see you later. They owe children an apology too for how awfully they treated them.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pay more
Shrink class sizes
Stop allowing inclusion

WUT? In violation of federal law?

DP here, but I think it's pretty crazy that we expect teachers to handle such a broad range of abilities in one room, and that its become normal to empty a classroom because there is a child having a meltdown throwing things, who is a danger to themselves and others. We've burdened our teachers with too much.

We've burdened our teachers with parents like those on DCUM. That's what we've done. Instead of throwing out a bunch of bullsh8T suggestions based on what YOU as PARENTS want, if you want to make things better for teachers try asking TEACHERS what they want.

If I were an APS teacher with know-it-all parents like they have to deal with, not only would I quit -- I'd jump out the friggin window!!

Somebody needs a yoga class! It sounds like PP was being empathetic to teachers, not being a know it all! What has you so triggered?

Because it's obvious to me that that poster is arguing against "inclusion" because SHE doesn't want it in her kid's classroom, and I have no doubt that she's never spoken about the issue with any teacher. I really doubt that teachers are leaving APS in droves in protest over the system's "inclusion" policies. Cut me a break.

DP. It's usually poor form to call out other kids as being disruptive balls of fury who are harmful to the learning environment. It doesn't mean that some kids aren't a real problem for both the teachers and parents.

Except we're supposed to be talking about teachers. Not parents. So, alleged DP, I will ask again: how many teachers have you spoken to who have suggested that this is a major factor in their decision to leave APS?

I'm waiting.

No, I haven't talked to my kid's teacher about the child in the class who takes his shirt off each day and then throws things around the room. In third grade. You don't think that kind of daily experience would factor in to someone leaving a job? Why wouldn't it?