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Anonymous wrote:I consider a PharmD a real doctor. More real than my Juris Doctor.

100% agree. I also have a JD. I certainly don’t consider myself “doctor title” worthy.

JD means you graduated from a law school and licensed to practice? Are there lawyers not JD?

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Anonymous wrote:In an academic setting, I would absolutely refer to a PharmD as "Dr. So-and-So." They have a doctorate.

In a medical setting, I would not refer to a pharmacist as "Dr. Anything." In that setting, "Dr. Anything" is reserved for MDs and DOs and dentists. DNPs also do not use "doctor" in that setting.

I don’t consider DOs to be “real doctors”.

This has to be a troll comment.

Of course it is. Especially considering that DOs do more training than MDs.

More training? How so?

DOs do an extra 200 hours of osteopathic-specific training. Otherwise, MDs and DOs have the same curriculum, the same residencies, the same board exams, etc.

A DO completes the same curriculum (classwork) and hands-on clinical training in osteopathic medical school as an MD does. Osteopathic DO physicians then go on to complete the same residencies as an MD, often working together throughout residency and after. They take the same specialty board exams as an MD and go on to practice the same jobs. The main difference between an MD and a DO is that a DO learns osteopathic manipulative medicine (OMM) also termed osteopathic manipulative technique (OMT). When in medical school, osteopathic medical students complete at least an additional 200 hours of osteopathic manipulative medicine in addition to the standard medical courses. OMM philosophical
ideals focus primarily on the musculoskeletal system and treat symptoms and conditions such as low back pain, muscle strains, stiff joints, build-up of edema, neck pain etc.

https://www.umhs-sk.org/blog/do-vs-md#:~:text=In%20general%2C%20an%20MD%20and,osteopathic%20manipulative%20medicine%20(OMM).

Anonymous wrote:I consider a PharmD a real doctor. More real than my Juris Doctor.

100% agree. I also have a JD. I certainly don’t consider myself “doctor title” worthy.

Anonymous wrote:A doctorate is the highest level of education in a particular field. If a person has a PharmD, then they have achieved the highest level of education in pharmacology. People who earn a PhD have a right to be called Dr. Have you ever heard of Dr. Jill Biden?

PharmD has a far higher bar of entrance and completion. Jill Biden has an EdD from UDel, the program's entrance standards include a mere 2.75 GPA from undergrad or a master's degree and no GRE required. Coursework can be completed entirely online:

https://www.education.udel.edu/doctoral/edd/applying/

People really underutilize pharmacists. They know so much more than your doctor.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In an academic setting, I would absolutely refer to a PharmD as "Dr. So-and-So." They have a doctorate.

In a medical setting, I would not refer to a pharmacist as "Dr. Anything." In that setting, "Dr. Anything" is reserved for MDs and DOs and dentists. DNPs also do not use "doctor" in that setting.

I don’t consider DOs to be “real doctors”.

This has to be a troll comment.

Of course it is. Especially considering that DOs do more training than MDs.

More training? How so?

And of course you dad- the patient can call himself whatever he wants. But the person caring for him has to be clear about their role.

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Anonymous wrote:As an MD myself,

I don’t think they should be called “doctor” unless in an academic setting.

Basically every PHD, JD lawyer, pharmacist , And so on can walk around and say I’m A Doctor….

Sounds silly to call my JD wife Dr Jennifer?

Basically, in academic settings, schools, university sure. In public, it’s silly. When I ask what kind of Aldo for sure to hand they tell me I have a PHD in history, I just shrug….

You’re a supercilious ass. The real doctors are the research PhDs who discovered and invented everything you know and use as a medical mechanic. Give homage to the original thinkers. You don’t even have a masters degree. Med school is trade school and you know it.

-signed, a physician.

Problem is that in a medical setting it is confusing to a patient for all persons with doctorates to call themselves doctor. If you have a janitor with a PhD in weave basking, they shouldn’t introduce themselves to a patient as Dr X.

That’s ridiculous. There are nurses with PhDs called Dr. In hospitals and no one is thrown off. People are smarter than you think.

My father is a dentist. When he was hospitalized should people stop calling him Dr. because it would be confusing?

If any nurse calls themselves a doctor in a hospital you should immediately report them. That is a misrepresentation of their role. The doctorate in nursing a research degree and not a medical degree. Most patients (perhaps not you but most) assume that if someone calls themselves doctor in a hospital setting they are seeing a MEDICAL DOCTOR period. If I am a PA with a PhD in English and say “hey good morning I’m Dr. blah, what can I do today for you?” Do you truly think that is okay in a hospital setting??

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In an academic setting, I would absolutely refer to a PharmD as "Dr. So-and-So." They have a doctorate.

In a medical setting, I would not refer to a pharmacist as "Dr. Anything." In that setting, "Dr. Anything" is reserved for MDs and DOs and dentists. DNPs also do not use "doctor" in that setting.

I don’t consider DOs to be “real doctors”.

This has to be a troll comment.

Of course it is. Especially considering that DOs do more training than MDs.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In an academic setting, I would absolutely refer to a PharmD as "Dr. So-and-So." They have a doctorate.

In a medical setting, I would not refer to a pharmacist as "Dr. Anything." In that setting, "Dr. Anything" is reserved for MDs and DOs and dentists. DNPs also do not use "doctor" in that setting.

I don’t consider DOs to be “real doctors”.

This has to be a troll comment.

Anonymous wrote:In an academic setting, I would absolutely refer to a PharmD as "Dr. So-and-So." They have a doctorate.

In a medical setting, I would not refer to a pharmacist as "Dr. Anything." In that setting, "Dr. Anything" is reserved for MDs and DOs and dentists. DNPs also do not use "doctor" in that setting.

I don’t consider DOs to be “real doctors”.

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Anonymous wrote:What do you think? Obviously you wouldn’t call your pharmacist “Doctor xxx”, right?

Some pharmacists have PharmDs and others do not.

How can you hold the job of pharmacist and not have a PharmD?

like many allied health fields (physical therapy, occupational therapy, etc.) in the past decade or two, pharmacy has transitioned to having the doctorate be the entry level practitioner degree. So people entering the pharmacy field NOW need to get doctorates (PharmD), but older pharmacists are less likely to have one because back when they were entering the field, the bachelor's degree was the entry-level qualification to enter the field. You didn't need a PharmD to become a pharmacist.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As an MD myself,

I don’t think they should be called “doctor” unless in an academic setting.

Basically every PHD, JD lawyer, pharmacist , And so on can walk around and say I’m A Doctor….

Sounds silly to call my JD wife Dr Jennifer?

Basically, in academic settings, schools, university sure. In public, it’s silly. When I ask what kind of Aldo for sure to hand they tell me I have a PHD in history, I just shrug….

You’re a supercilious ass. The real doctors are the research PhDs who discovered and invented everything you know and use as a medical mechanic. Give homage to the original thinkers. You don’t even have a masters degree. Med school is trade school and you know it.

-signed, a physician.

Problem is that in a medical setting it is confusing to a patient for all persons with doctorates to call themselves doctor. If you have a janitor with a PhD in weave basking, they shouldn’t introduce themselves to a patient as Dr X.

Not that many people on earth have earned doctorates to be confusing to even the dumbest people. To earn a doctorate you must do original research in your field. Unless a university or research lab exploded, you’d never have that many with the title of doctor to confuse you.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As an MD myself,

I don’t think they should be called “doctor” unless in an academic setting.

Basically every PHD, JD lawyer, pharmacist , And so on can walk around and say I’m A Doctor….

Sounds silly to call my JD wife Dr Jennifer?

Basically, in academic settings, schools, university sure. In public, it’s silly. When I ask what kind of Aldo for sure to hand they tell me I have a PHD in history, I just shrug….

You’re a supercilious ass. The real doctors are the research PhDs who discovered and invented everything you know and use as a medical mechanic. Give homage to the original thinkers. You don’t even have a masters degree. Med school is trade school and you know it.

-signed, a physician.

Problem is that in a medical setting it is confusing to a patient for all persons with doctorates to call themselves doctor. If you have a janitor with a PhD in weave basking, they shouldn’t introduce themselves to a patient as Dr X.

That’s ridiculous. There are nurses with PhDs called Dr. In hospitals and no one is thrown off. People are smarter than you think.

My father is a dentist. When he was hospitalized should people stop calling him Dr. because it would be confusing?

I personally know pharmacists who have saved lives by catching MD prescribing errors in a hospital setting.