I don't have experience with Paul VI specifically, but the teachers at Catholic schools that I know were invested in helping students receive a quality Catholic education. If they can afford it (if their spouse is a high earner, they have family money, or are just willing to make the sacrifice) the lower salary is worth it to them to be part of that.

And as practicing Catholics, entrusted with teaching their students Catholicism in all aspects of life, they don't use birth control. So lack of bc coverage is not an issue.

Salary level is pathetic. Even public school salaries are too low but don’t Catholic school teachers get longer summer break and more days off during the year?

These salaries are way too low. No way will I encourage my kids to go into education which is sad because it is an important job

Anonymous wrote:39 v. 51 isn't as huge of a difference as the catholic/public difference is other places, no. But what's the salary for a catholic school teacher 25 years in with a masters vs. one in public?

For the person whose catholic offers retirement, are you getting 70% or so of the final salary in retirement for the rest of your life? Or are you getting a little bit put into an retirement account each month?

Not everything is about the salary to some people. Maybe they prefer the work environment. Maybe it lets their kids go to the school on a discount. Maybe it aligns with their beliefs.

There are valid reasons to sacrifice some salary for other considerations.

39 v. 51 isn't as huge of a difference as the catholic/public difference is other places, no. But what's the salary for a catholic school teacher 25 years in with a masters vs. one in public?

For the person whose catholic offers retirement, are you getting 70% or so of the final salary in retirement for the rest of your life? Or are you getting a little bit put into an retirement account each month?

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Anonymous wrote:In addition to the crappy salary, keep in mind that the mediocre Catholic health insurance does not cover contraception!

The real answer is that they don’t attract good teachers. They attract the teachers that were fired from other districts, or young people that don’t know better but will surely quit mid-year when something better comes along.

My kids Catholic K-8 school matches FCPS salaries, as we as a parent community have made it a priority to compensate our teachers at an appropriate level.

I work in a Catholic school. My salary is very close to my old public school salary. They also contribute to my retirement. I have to maintain my certification, but that isn’t hard to do. I’m sure there are plenty of Catholic schools that pay well.

Anonymous wrote:In addition to the crappy salary, keep in mind that the mediocre Catholic health insurance does not cover contraception!

The real answer is that they don’t attract good teachers. They attract the teachers that were fired from other districts, or young people that don’t know better but will surely quit mid-year when something better comes along.

My kids Catholic K-8 school matches FCPS salaries, as we as a parent community have made it a priority to compensate our teachers at an appropriate level.

Anonymous wrote:In addition to the crappy salary, keep in mind that the mediocre Catholic health insurance does not cover contraception!

The real answer is that they don’t attract good teachers. They attract the teachers that were fired from other districts, or young people that don’t know better but will surely quit mid-year when something better comes along.

Um, why are you surprised that contraception won't be coveted in the health benefits?

If a non Muslim taught at a Muslim school , wouldn't you anticipate their religious-based parameters?
Or a Jewish school?
Or a pentecostal school?

Anonymous wrote:In addition to the crappy salary, keep in mind that the mediocre Catholic health insurance does not cover contraception!

The real answer is that they don’t attract good teachers. They attract the teachers that were fired from other districts, or young people that don’t know better but will surely quit mid-year when something better comes along.

I suspect you have absolutely no experience with Catholic schools or Catholic school teachers. Rather trollish, actually.

In addition to the crappy salary, keep in mind that the mediocre Catholic health insurance does not cover contraception!

The real answer is that they don’t attract good teachers. They attract the teachers that were fired from other districts, or young people that don’t know better but will surely quit mid-year when something better comes along.

As a former public school teacher, I can really see the appeal of being a private school teacher instead: smaller class sizes, smaller schools in general, not as much focus on differentiating curriculum as you are more likely to have a group of students who are on a similar level as opposed to public school where you get a much wider range of academic abilities/social-emotional skills in students, not as much pressure from administration to "teach to the test," students who behave badly will typically be removed in the private school setting whereas in public school the poorly behaving kids stay, etc. etc. It seems like a much easier job, to be honest.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter makes almost 70 in Fairfax, with really good benefits. Why would anyone teach for 39K?

Half the number of students. A significantly better work environment.

Plus, the parochial schools can afford to be picky and selective about who they accept....and don't hesitate to kick you out if you're a problem. That alone can be priceless if you're a teacher.

Who cares? Half the number of students and a better work environment (more like 20% less, and debatable) don’t pay my bills.

At our private school max class size is 15, most are between 11 and 13. It's absolutely half of pubic class sizes.

Some people value other things, not just money

Surely you aren’t implying that thousands of parents who send their children to public schools do not value education? Pr value it less than you do? Such a broad generalization. Surely that’s not what you are saying.

NP here. I don’t think that poster was making a comment about parents. I think the point was that some teachers would prefer smaller class sizes to a higher salary.

I’m one of many private school teachers who started in public districts. (My department is 2/3rds former public teachers.) I don’t personally know anybody who made the switch because of class sizes, but I can see it happening. My decision to take lower pay was 100% a reaction to the over-bloated, under-performing administration at my former public school. Thanks to my spouses’s job, I was able to make the jump.

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Anonymous wrote:So, I just looked up the starting salary in for Fairfax teachers. It's 51k for a bachelor's degree. So, yes, it is more, but not nearly as much as people are suggesting.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/FY22-teacher-194-day.pdf

Between smaller classes and way less behavioral issues- I’d take the private teaching job paying less any day.

TBH Catholic class sizes are not that much smaller. There are behavioral issues that are not as intense as public, but there are still issues.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter makes almost 70 in Fairfax, with really good benefits. Why would anyone teach for 39K?

Half the number of students. A significantly better work environment.

Plus, the parochial schools can afford to be picky and selective about who they accept....and don't hesitate to kick you out if you're a problem. That alone can be priceless if you're a teacher.

Who cares? Half the number of students and a better work environment (more like 20% less, and debatable) don’t pay my bills.

At our private school max class size is 15, most are between 11 and 13. It's absolutely half of pubic class sizes.

Some people value other things, not just money

Surely you aren’t implying that thousands of parents who send their children to public schools do not value education? Pr value it less than you do? Such a broad generalization. Surely that’s not what you are saying.

Anonymous wrote:So, I just looked up the starting salary in for Fairfax teachers. It's 51k for a bachelor's degree. So, yes, it is more, but not nearly as much as people are suggesting.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/FY22-teacher-194-day.pdf

Between smaller classes and way less behavioral issues- I’d take the private teaching job paying less any day.