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Anonymous wrote:I sort of feel like this is a Fox News talking point. I've seen formula on the shelf at Target, Safeway, etc. It might be a problem if you are looking for a particular/brand type, but I don't know that there is an ability to get baby formula in general.

So OP posts about a very real formula shortage (I was in Walgreens the other day and they had signs up) and all you can do is respond by saying it’s a Republican talking point. Just because the republicans are trying to score political points by bringing up the formula shortage (democrats would have done the same) doesn’t mean there is no actual shortage. Your response is indicative of all that is wrong with this country. You are a truly disgusting human being. By the way Jen Psaki addressed the formula shortage in her recent press conference.

Funny - we brought up food shortages (you know the things 95% of the population survives on?), empty aisles, and high grocery prices for months. And the response from people like you was 'Shop at ALDI or your local farmer's market'.

Well here's a solution for you - order online from Canada or Europe. I've heard the European formulas at least are a much higher standard anyway.

Honestly, comparing formula out of stocks to food supply chain bumps is ridiculous. Adults and older kids have a wide variety of things they can eat. Maybe you couldn't get your preferred brand of cereal or strawberries were prohibitively expensive, but it has never been a question of not having anything to eat.

This back and forth sniping has got to stop. I'm extremely liberal and this formula shortage is terrifying. We are seriously going backward - at an increasing pace - on basic standards of living for developed nations. I saw the stats yesterday and nationally it is over 40% out of stock. In my area of Texas, it is over 50%. And shortages beget shortages. This is a major issue and there needs to be something done besides leaving it to the industry to solve. The federal government needs to step in with production-boosting incentives and resources.

The manufacturing plants have been going 24/7 since Covid started. The problem isn't a lack of will to produce products, its not having the people to do it with.

1 million - so 1 in 330 Americans - died of Covid. They're gone. Not coming back.

Half the workforce dropped out for fear of illness or a need to take care of sick family members.

On top of that the government paid the able-bodied young working age population with dependents ridiculous levels of stimulus checks and child tax credits so they didn't need to work either.

So now its hard to find workers. I walked by a regular fast casual place that was offering $200 cash bonuses for work last night. You can give production incentives all you want but there's a shortage of everything from chicken-processing plant to formula factory workers these days.

No that’s not just the problem. It goes deeper. It’s structural. The formula industry is dominated by four major producers - Enfamil, Similac, gerber and one producer that produces all the generics. It’s also a supply chain issue - very hard to get the raw materials needed to make formula. This is also structural - has to do a lot with how production is structured here. This is not a democrat or Republican issue, but a major issue with the US economy. Things go well when things are fine. But when things are not, then everything starts to collapse. We are about to have an extremely difficult year. You will feel like you are in a so called third world country. We will all be affected. God help us all. I come from Lebanon so I have experience.

+1. Limited inputs all around, lack of workers in the formula business is probably the smallest component. Having an entire factory out of service because it’s a criminally disguising mess is a huge deal when you have so few plants to begin with.

Women don’t want to hear this, but we really need to get as many people breastfeeding as possible to take the pressure off for people who absolutely can’t. There is a moment here for lactation consultants to step up and reach out into areas with terrible breastfeeding support infrastructure. When I had my kids, I had my choice of instantly available, low cost breastfeeding support. It wasn’t easy and the support made all the difference. When my family in a third tier city had issues, there was nothing and they gave up and switched to formula right away. These were people who wanted to breastfeed but didn’t have the tools. Other people stop because they don’t understand there are things they can do to make their own milk more tolerable for tender tummies.

I believe fed is best. But supply chains are all over the place right now and nothing is going to be easy or convenient. The government can’t solve this systemic problem overnight. Moms have to take charge.

Also yes this can be resolved quickly if there is a will. Remember when trump quickly stepped in when there was a meat shortage? It was also a supply chain issue. But apparently meat is more important that baby formula. Time and time again, America has shown that it doesn’t care about its most vulnerable.

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Anonymous wrote:I sort of feel like this is a Fox News talking point. I've seen formula on the shelf at Target, Safeway, etc. It might be a problem if you are looking for a particular/brand type, but I don't know that there is an ability to get baby formula in general.

So OP posts about a very real formula shortage (I was in Walgreens the other day and they had signs up) and all you can do is respond by saying it’s a Republican talking point. Just because the republicans are trying to score political points by bringing up the formula shortage (democrats would have done the same) doesn’t mean there is no actual shortage. Your response is indicative of all that is wrong with this country. You are a truly disgusting human being. By the way Jen Psaki addressed the formula shortage in her recent press conference.

Funny - we brought up food shortages (you know the things 95% of the population survives on?), empty aisles, and high grocery prices for months. And the response from people like you was 'Shop at ALDI or your local farmer's market'.

Well here's a solution for you - order online from Canada or Europe. I've heard the European formulas at least are a much higher standard anyway.

Honestly, comparing formula out of stocks to food supply chain bumps is ridiculous. Adults and older kids have a wide variety of things they can eat. Maybe you couldn't get your preferred brand of cereal or strawberries were prohibitively expensive, but it has never been a question of not having anything to eat.

This back and forth sniping has got to stop. I'm extremely liberal and this formula shortage is terrifying. We are seriously going backward - at an increasing pace - on basic standards of living for developed nations. I saw the stats yesterday and nationally it is over 40% out of stock. In my area of Texas, it is over 50%. And shortages beget shortages. This is a major issue and there needs to be something done besides leaving it to the industry to solve. The federal government needs to step in with production-boosting incentives and resources.

The manufacturing plants have been going 24/7 since Covid started. The problem isn't a lack of will to produce products, its not having the people to do it with.

1 million - so 1 in 330 Americans - died of Covid. They're gone. Not coming back.

Half the workforce dropped out for fear of illness or a need to take care of sick family members.

On top of that the government paid the able-bodied young working age population with dependents ridiculous levels of stimulus checks and child tax credits so they didn't need to work either.

So now its hard to find workers. I walked by a regular fast casual place that was offering $200 cash bonuses for work last night. You can give production incentives all you want but there's a shortage of everything from chicken-processing plant to formula factory workers these days.

No that’s not just the problem. It goes deeper. It’s structural. The formula industry is dominated by four major producers - Enfamil, Similac, gerber and one producer that produces all the generics. It’s also a supply chain issue - very hard to get the raw materials needed to make formula. This is also structural - has to do a lot with how production is structured here. This is not a democrat or Republican issue, but a major issue with the US economy. Things go well when things are fine. But when things are not, then everything starts to collapse. We are about to have an extremely difficult year. You will feel like you are in a so called third world country. We will all be affected. God help us all. I come from Lebanon so I have experience.

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Anonymous wrote:I sort of feel like this is a Fox News talking point. I've seen formula on the shelf at Target, Safeway, etc. It might be a problem if you are looking for a particular/brand type, but I don't know that there is an ability to get baby formula in general.

So OP posts about a very real formula shortage (I was in Walgreens the other day and they had signs up) and all you can do is respond by saying it’s a Republican talking point. Just because the republicans are trying to score political points by bringing up the formula shortage (democrats would have done the same) doesn’t mean there is no actual shortage. Your response is indicative of all that is wrong with this country. You are a truly disgusting human being. By the way Jen Psaki addressed the formula shortage in her recent press conference.

Funny - we brought up food shortages (you know the things 95% of the population survives on?), empty aisles, and high grocery prices for months. And the response from people like you was 'Shop at ALDI or your local farmer's market'.

Well here's a solution for you - order online from Canada or Europe. I've heard the European formulas at least are a much higher standard anyway.

Who is “we”? I am PP and am concerned about food shortages as well. This isn’t a my team vs your team thing. This is an actual issue. Some babies need a specific formula to survive. European formulas are unfortunately illegal. FDA allowing European formula is will help. This is terrifying. I can’t believe you aren’t seeing that or don’t care.

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Anonymous wrote:This is bothering me too. I need to switch to 100% alementium rtf ( currently combo feeding). I am scared it’s going to be a constant search for bottles. Any other alimentum parents out there? How bad is it? Baby ejected nutrimigen and neocate so I’m limited :/

I’m so sorry. My first was on Alimentum and it can be harder to find. I’m using a regular formula for my second but it is still scary. Like one of the pp, I wrote my congressman. I read there will be a hearing May 25th to figure out what to do but that seems so late. This is really a cluster.

I'm so sorry pp! I just wanted to jump in and say my son has been on alimentum RTF these last months and for the most part we haven't had an issue. We usually get it from a medical supply company through our insurance (Kaiser) and they had one month where they said it was on backorder, but when I went to search there were plenty of places nearby that had it.

I also wanted to share in case it wasn't posted that the FDA is releasing a lot more information this week on what they are doing to try to deal with this issue. https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-takes-important-steps-improve-supply-infant-and-specialty-formula-products

Anonymous wrote:This is bothering me too. I need to switch to 100% alementium rtf ( currently combo feeding). I am scared it’s going to be a constant search for bottles. Any other alimentum parents out there? How bad is it? Baby ejected nutrimigen and neocate so I’m limited :/

I’m so sorry. My first was on Alimentum and it can be harder to find. I’m using a regular formula for my second but it is still scary. Like one of the pp, I wrote my congressman. I read there will be a hearing May 25th to figure out what to do but that seems so late. This is really a cluster.

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Anonymous wrote:I sort of feel like this is a Fox News talking point. I've seen formula on the shelf at Target, Safeway, etc. It might be a problem if you are looking for a particular/brand type, but I don't know that there is an ability to get baby formula in general.

So OP posts about a very real formula shortage (I was in Walgreens the other day and they had signs up) and all you can do is respond by saying it’s a Republican talking point. Just because the republicans are trying to score political points by bringing up the formula shortage (democrats would have done the same) doesn’t mean there is no actual shortage. Your response is indicative of all that is wrong with this country. You are a truly disgusting human being. By the way Jen Psaki addressed the formula shortage in her recent press conference.

Funny - we brought up food shortages (you know the things 95% of the population survives on?), empty aisles, and high grocery prices for months. And the response from people like you was 'Shop at ALDI or your local farmer's market'.

Well here's a solution for you - order online from Canada or Europe. I've heard the European formulas at least are a much higher standard anyway.

Honestly, comparing formula out of stocks to food supply chain bumps is ridiculous. Adults and older kids have a wide variety of things they can eat. Maybe you couldn't get your preferred brand of cereal or strawberries were prohibitively expensive, but it has never been a question of not having anything to eat.

This back and forth sniping has got to stop. I'm extremely liberal and this formula shortage is terrifying. We are seriously going backward - at an increasing pace - on basic standards of living for developed nations. I saw the stats yesterday and nationally it is over 40% out of stock. In my area of Texas, it is over 50%. And shortages beget shortages. This is a major issue and there needs to be something done besides leaving it to the industry to solve. The federal government needs to step in with production-boosting incentives and resources.

The manufacturing plants have been going 24/7 since Covid started. The problem isn't a lack of will to produce products, its not having the people to do it with.

1 million - so 1 in 330 Americans - died of Covid. They're gone. Not coming back.

Half the workforce dropped out for fear of illness or a need to take care of sick family members.

On top of that the government paid the able-bodied young working age population with dependents ridiculous levels of stimulus checks and child tax credits so they didn't need to work either.

So now its hard to find workers. I walked by a regular fast casual place that was offering $200 cash bonuses for work last night. You can give production incentives all you want but there's a shortage of everything from chicken-processing plant to formula factory workers these days.

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Anonymous wrote:I sort of feel like this is a Fox News talking point. I've seen formula on the shelf at Target, Safeway, etc. It might be a problem if you are looking for a particular/brand type, but I don't know that there is an ability to get baby formula in general.

So OP posts about a very real formula shortage (I was in Walgreens the other day and they had signs up) and all you can do is respond by saying it’s a Republican talking point. Just because the republicans are trying to score political points by bringing up the formula shortage (democrats would have done the same) doesn’t mean there is no actual shortage. Your response is indicative of all that is wrong with this country. You are a truly disgusting human being. By the way Jen Psaki addressed the formula shortage in her recent press conference.

Funny - we brought up food shortages (you know the things 95% of the population survives on?), empty aisles, and high grocery prices for months. And the response from people like you was 'Shop at ALDI or your local farmer's market'.

Well here's a solution for you - order online from Canada or Europe. I've heard the European formulas at least are a much higher standard anyway.

Honestly, comparing formula out of stocks to food supply chain bumps is ridiculous. Adults and older kids have a wide variety of things they can eat. Maybe you couldn't get your preferred brand of cereal or strawberries were prohibitively expensive, but it has never been a question of not having anything to eat.

This back and forth sniping has got to stop. I'm extremely liberal and this formula shortage is terrifying. We are seriously going backward - at an increasing pace - on basic standards of living for developed nations. I saw the stats yesterday and nationally it is over 40% out of stock. In my area of Texas, it is over 50%. And shortages beget shortages. This is a major issue and there needs to be something done besides leaving it to the industry to solve. The federal government needs to step in with production-boosting incentives and resources.

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Anonymous wrote:I sort of feel like this is a Fox News talking point. I've seen formula on the shelf at Target, Safeway, etc. It might be a problem if you are looking for a particular/brand type, but I don't know that there is an ability to get baby formula in general.

So OP posts about a very real formula shortage (I was in Walgreens the other day and they had signs up) and all you can do is respond by saying it’s a Republican talking point. Just because the republicans are trying to score political points by bringing up the formula shortage (democrats would have done the same) doesn’t mean there is no actual shortage. Your response is indicative of all that is wrong with this country. You are a truly disgusting human being. By the way Jen Psaki addressed the formula shortage in her recent press conference.

Funny - we brought up food shortages (you know the things 95% of the population survives on?), empty aisles, and high grocery prices for months. And the response from people like you was 'Shop at ALDI or your local farmer's market'.

Well here's a solution for you - order online from Canada or Europe. I've heard the European formulas at least are a much higher standard anyway.

Anonymous wrote:This is bothering me too. I need to switch to 100% alementium rtf ( currently combo feeding). I am scared it’s going to be a constant search for bottles. Any other alimentum parents out there? How bad is it? Baby ejected nutrimigen and neocate so I’m limited :/

It’s hard but if it helps I just saw two bottles of allimentum in the falls church cvs at 134 west broad street. Perhaps call and ask. What about generic substitutes? What about gerber?

This is bothering me too. I need to switch to 100% alementium rtf ( currently combo feeding). I am scared it’s going to be a constant search for bottles. Any other alimentum parents out there? How bad is it? Baby ejected nutrimigen and neocate so I’m limited :/

Anonymous wrote:I sort of feel like this is a Fox News talking point. I've seen formula on the shelf at Target, Safeway, etc. It might be a problem if you are looking for a particular/brand type, but I don't know that there is an ability to get baby formula in general.

So OP posts about a very real formula shortage (I was in Walgreens the other day and they had signs up) and all you can do is respond by saying it’s a Republican talking point. Just because the republicans are trying to score political points by bringing up the formula shortage (democrats would have done the same) doesn’t mean there is no actual shortage. Your response is indicative of all that is wrong with this country. You are a truly disgusting human being. By the way Jen Psaki addressed the formula shortage in her recent press conference.

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Anonymous wrote:I sort of feel like this is a Fox News talking point. I've seen formula on the shelf at Target, Safeway, etc. It might be a problem if you are looking for a particular/brand type, but I don't know that there is an ability to get baby formula in general.

This is hilarious. So…Any fact you don’t like is “a Fox News talking point”. Meanwhile, there are literal empty shelves where formula should be. Honestly, it’s now the left that has gone completely nutso.

OP here. The country is so partisan now that if someone complains about a genuine issue, they are apparently Republican. I have never voted Republican in my life. Democrats need to start governing. This is an actual issue that needs to be resolved fast.

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Anonymous wrote:This is really freaking me out. We have an infant under 3 months and still need to use the liquid so options are limited. Do we think anything can be done to increase supply?

Is your child immune compromised? My baby took powdered formula after our initial RTF stash from the hospital ran out. We used boiled and cooled water. Doctor didn’t raise any concerns.

OP here. I echo these comments. PP you're baby should be fine with powder after one month unless she/she is immunocompromised. I don't know what can be done here but I just called my representative, senators, and my Virginia delegates. They need to be hearing from us!

Anonymous wrote:This is really freaking me out. We have an infant under 3 months and still need to use the liquid so options are limited. Do we think anything can be done to increase supply?

Is your child immune compromised? My baby took powdered formula after our initial RTF stash from the hospital ran out. We used boiled and cooled water. Doctor didn’t raise any concerns.