Anonymous
05/04/2022 19:05
Subject: Christians allow sexual assault
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:God did not send the Holy Spirit to conceive Jesus without Mary’s consent; Mary’s full verbal consent was required and obtained before Jesus was conceived. God waited for consent; and it was not “implied” or “presumed” consent. Luke 1:38 is clearly Mary’s full consent to God’s plan.
38 And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her. 39 And Mary arose in those days, and went into the hill country with haste, into a city of Juda; 40 And entered into the house of Zacharias, and asaluted Elisabeth.
Dude, read Luke 1:31-33. It was a done deal, she really had no say in the matter. This assumes of course Luke, whoever that was, could possibly have known what circumstances led to Jesus's birth since he wasn't there at the time and could not possibly have known what the angel said to Mary.
BTW, not to put to fine a point on this, but she was likely 14 or 15 at the time.
Anonymous
05/04/2022 19:03
Subject: Christians allow sexual assault
Anonymous wrote:God did not send the Holy Spirit to conceive Jesus without Mary’s consent; Mary’s full verbal consent was required and obtained before Jesus was conceived. God waited for consent; and it was not “implied” or “presumed” consent. Luke 1:38 is clearly Mary’s full consent to God’s plan.
38 And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her. 39 And Mary arose in those days, and went into the hill country with haste, into a city of Juda; 40 And entered into the house of Zacharias, and asaluted Elisabeth.
Dude, read Luke 1:31-33. It was a done deal, she really had no say in the matter. This assumes of course Luke, whoever that was, could possibly have known what circumstances led to Jesus's birth since he wasn't there at the time and could not possibly have known what the angel said to Mary.
Anonymous
05/04/2022 18:55
Subject: Christians allow sexual assault
God did not send the Holy Spirit to conceive Jesus without Mary’s consent; Mary’s full verbal consent was required and obtained before Jesus was conceived. God waited for consent; and it was not “implied” or “presumed” consent. Luke 1:38 is clearly Mary’s full consent to God’s plan.
38 And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her. 39 And Mary arose in those days, and went into the hill country with haste, into a city of Juda; 40 And entered into the house of Zacharias, and asaluted Elisabeth.
38 And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her. 39 And Mary arose in those days, and went into the hill country with haste, into a city of Juda; 40 And entered into the house of Zacharias, and asaluted Elisabeth.
Anonymous
05/04/2022 17:22
Subject: Christians allow sexual assault
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Controversial take: what happened to Mary was a sexual assault so it's baked in from the beginning
Not really since she conceded of her free will but it is giving up rights to her own life as if she's not entitled to her life. Which is carried through a lot of Christianity.
I think the word you want is consented, not conceded, but no, she was told it was going to happen, not much she could do about it. And talk about unequal positions of the parties, - one all powerful creator of the universe and the other a simple local girl. It wasn't like she had a choice.
Anonymous
05/04/2022 17:18
Subject: Christians allow sexual assault
Anonymous wrote:Controversial take: what happened to Mary was a sexual assault so it's baked in from the beginning
Well, you'll get some debate on this around here, but it definitely happened without her prior consent. What would we call that these days?
Anonymous
05/04/2022 11:40
Subject: Christians allow sexual assault
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How about Muslims and Jews? Same?
No, only Christians get their own misleading/false subject line and have to defend themselves. Try to keep up.
Exactly. It’s the DCUM way.
Some Christians continue to feel a deep sense of persecution because their savior was crucified.
Tell us you know nothing about Christianity without telling us you know nothing about Christianity.
Jesus is the savior and was crucified. This is what I learned in Christian Sunday school.
The strange take was not this, but that Christians "feel a deep sense of persecution" because of it.
because Jesus was persecuted. Christians, who believe Jesus is the Messiah, have been persecuted for this belief. Christians (some of them, at least) are taught that they will go straight to heaven if they are persecuted because of their religion
Anonymous
05/04/2022 11:36
Subject: Christians allow sexual assault
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How about Muslims and Jews? Same?
No, only Christians get their own misleading/false subject line and have to defend themselves. Try to keep up.
Exactly. It’s the DCUM way.
Some Christians continue to feel a deep sense of persecution because their savior was crucified.
Tell us you know nothing about Christianity without telling us you know nothing about Christianity.
Jesus is the savior and was crucified. This is what I learned in Christian Sunday school.
The strange take was not this, but that Christians "feel a deep sense of persecution" because of it.
Anonymous
05/04/2022 11:23
Subject: Re:Christians allow sexual assault
I was the victim of physical and sexual abuse by my (then) husband. I went to the pastor. He told me (1) Suffering leads to righteousness (2) I should be more submissive (3) I need to make my husband feel like the head if the household (4) I should be more available to meet his needs (5) Divorce is never an option for a Christian. It nearly destroyed my faith. And he later tried to take my life.
This was a southern baptist church in Virginia.
This was a southern baptist church in Virginia.
Anonymous
05/04/2022 11:16
Subject: Christians allow sexual assault
Anonymous wrote:Controversial take: what happened to Mary was a sexual assault so it's baked in from the beginning
Not really since she conceded of her free will but it is giving up rights to her own life as if she's not entitled to her life. Which is carried through a lot of Christianity.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 13:36
Subject: Christians allow sexual assault
Anonymous wrote:Controversial take: what happened to Mary was a sexual assault so it's baked in from the beginning
You have a strange notion of what sexual assault is.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 13:35
Subject: Christians allow sexual assault
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How about Muslims and Jews? Same?
No, only Christians get their own misleading/false subject line and have to defend themselves. Try to keep up.
Exactly. It’s the DCUM way.
Some Christians continue to feel a deep sense of persecution because their savior was crucified.
Tell us you know nothing about Christianity without telling us you know nothing about Christianity.
Jesus is the savior and was crucified. This is what I learned in Christian Sunday school.
The strange take was not this, but that Christians "feel a deep sense of persecution" because of it.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 13:01
Subject: Christians allow sexual assault
Controversial take: what happened to Mary was a sexual assault so it's baked in from the beginning
Anonymous
05/03/2022 13:00
Subject: Christians allow sexual assault
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How about Muslims and Jews? Same?
No, only Christians get their own misleading/false subject line and have to defend themselves. Try to keep up.
Exactly. It’s the DCUM way.
Some Christians continue to feel a deep sense of persecution because their savior was crucified.
Tell us you know nothing about Christianity without telling us you know nothing about Christianity.
Jesus is the savior and was crucified. This is what I learned in Christian Sunday school.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 11:50
Subject: Christians allow sexual assault
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How about Muslims and Jews? Same?
No, only Christians get their own misleading/false subject line and have to defend themselves. Try to keep up.
Exactly. It’s the DCUM way.
Some Christians continue to feel a deep sense of persecution because their savior was crucified.
Tell us you know nothing about Christianity without telling us you know nothing about Christianity.
+1000
Anonymous
05/03/2022 11:30
Subject: Christians allow sexual assault
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How about Muslims and Jews? Same?
No, only Christians get their own misleading/false subject line and have to defend themselves. Try to keep up.
Exactly. It’s the DCUM way.
Some Christians continue to feel a deep sense of persecution because their savior was crucified.
Tell us you know nothing about Christianity without telling us you know nothing about Christianity.