Anonymous
04/26/2022 23:10
Subject: Re:Teachers with 2 or more job s
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is VERY common for teachers to have second or third jobs. Have you seen the pay scale? They start in the 40s. You try finding a decent 1-bedroom apartment at that salary. Let alone buy a car, pay for insurance, pay for food AND pay off student loans... All for a thankless job where we're attacked at every turn. I used to tell people I was a teacher, and I said it with pride. Now I just make up something.
Puleeezze. The average individual income for PW is $48,000. The average PWCP school teacher is $57,000. Stop it with the slave wages bullshit.
When would a first year teacher ever be paid the "average"? It is a pay scale. You start at the bottom and hopefully move up year by year through the steps.
Sounds like you are a prime example of why we need teachers. That and your nasty potty mouth. What an ugly person you are, PP. No wonder people don't want to be teachers anymore if they have to deal with people like you.
Nope, my brother is a 4th grade teacher and is 29 years old making $100K at with mcps. My child’s tutor at 34 is making $120K in DC.
Nope. I’m a master’s + 30, and I’ve been teaching 15 years. I have yet to make $100K. He’s probably doing extra stuff- coaching, summer school. In DC, she deserves what they pay her. Why else would she work there?
Same. I'm also M+30, teaching almost 20 years and just broke $90 this year on the scale.
I’m also totally sick of the fact that even though I’m more educated than everyone I know, and even though they all make more than I do, they all tell me all summer long how good I’ve got it.
Different strokes. You can go out into private industry and work 50-60 hours a week for 49-50 weeks per year with no job security, no pension, and expensive benefits like the rest of us!
That attitude will not help the teacher shortage.
Anonymous
04/26/2022 23:09
Subject: Re:Teachers with 2 or more job s
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is VERY common for teachers to have second or third jobs. Have you seen the pay scale? They start in the 40s. You try finding a decent 1-bedroom apartment at that salary. Let alone buy a car, pay for insurance, pay for food AND pay off student loans... All for a thankless job where we're attacked at every turn. I used to tell people I was a teacher, and I said it with pride. Now I just make up something.
Puleeezze. The average individual income for PW is $48,000. The average PWCP school teacher is $57,000. Stop it with the slave wages bullshit.
When would a first year teacher ever be paid the "average"? It is a pay scale. You start at the bottom and hopefully move up year by year through the steps.
Sounds like you are a prime example of why we need teachers. That and your nasty potty mouth. What an ugly person you are, PP. No wonder people don't want to be teachers anymore if they have to deal with people like you.
Nope, my brother is a 4th grade teacher and is 29 years old making $100K at with mcps. My child’s tutor at 34 is making $120K in DC.
Nope. I’m a master’s + 30, and I’ve been teaching 15 years. I have yet to make $100K. He’s probably doing extra stuff- coaching, summer school. In DC, she deserves what they pay her. Why else would she work there?
Same. I'm also M+30, teaching almost 20 years and just broke $90 this year on the scale.
I’m also totally sick of the fact that even though I’m more educated than everyone I know, and even though they all make more than I do, they all tell me all summer long how good I’ve got it.
Different strokes. You can go out into private industry and work 50-60 hours a week for 49-50 weeks per year with no job security, no pension, and expensive benefits like the rest of us!
Instead of being jealous, why not improve your own situation, or better yet, become a teacher if teaching so cushy in your mind.
Anonymous
04/26/2022 23:06
Subject: Re:Teachers with 2 or more job s
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is VERY common for teachers to have second or third jobs. Have you seen the pay scale? They start in the 40s. You try finding a decent 1-bedroom apartment at that salary. Let alone buy a car, pay for insurance, pay for food AND pay off student loans... All for a thankless job where we're attacked at every turn. I used to tell people I was a teacher, and I said it with pride. Now I just make up something.
Puleeezze. The average individual income for PW is $48,000. The average PWCP school teacher is $57,000. Stop it with the slave wages bullshit.
When would a first year teacher ever be paid the "average"? It is a pay scale. You start at the bottom and hopefully move up year by year through the steps.
Sounds like you are a prime example of why we need teachers. That and your nasty potty mouth. What an ugly person you are, PP. No wonder people don't want to be teachers anymore if they have to deal with people like you.
Nope, my brother is a 4th grade teacher and is 29 years old making $100K at with mcps. My child’s tutor at 34 is making $120K in DC.
Nope. I’m a master’s + 30, and I’ve been teaching 15 years. I have yet to make $100K. He’s probably doing extra stuff- coaching, summer school. In DC, she deserves what they pay her. Why else would she work there?
Same. I'm also M+30, teaching almost 20 years and just broke $90 this year on the scale.
I’m also totally sick of the fact that even though I’m more educated than everyone I know, and even though they all make more than I do, they all tell me all summer long how good I’ve got it.
Different strokes. You can go out into private industry and work 50-60 hours a week for 49-50 weeks per year with no job security, no pension, and expensive benefits like the rest of us!
Anonymous
04/26/2022 20:05
Subject: Re:Teachers with 2 or more job s
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is VERY common for teachers to have second or third jobs. Have you seen the pay scale? They start in the 40s. You try finding a decent 1-bedroom apartment at that salary. Let alone buy a car, pay for insurance, pay for food AND pay off student loans... All for a thankless job where we're attacked at every turn. I used to tell people I was a teacher, and I said it with pride. Now I just make up something.
Puleeezze. The average individual income for PW is $48,000. The average PWCP school teacher is $57,000. Stop it with the slave wages bullshit.
When would a first year teacher ever be paid the "average"? It is a pay scale. You start at the bottom and hopefully move up year by year through the steps.
Sounds like you are a prime example of why we need teachers. That and your nasty potty mouth. What an ugly person you are, PP. No wonder people don't want to be teachers anymore if they have to deal with people like you.
Nope, my brother is a 4th grade teacher and is 29 years old making $100K at with mcps. My child’s tutor at 34 is making $120K in DC.
Nope. I’m a master’s + 30, and I’ve been teaching 15 years. I have yet to make $100K. He’s probably doing extra stuff- coaching, summer school. In DC, she deserves what they pay her. Why else would she work there?
Same. I'm also M+30, teaching almost 20 years and just broke $90 this year on the scale.
Where do you work? I guess my LCPS gig isn’t that bad after all… I only have a bachelors and I’m under a decade of experience so I think next year I will bring like 69 or 70. If I am lucky and get a Jeff contract then add 20% salary increase. With soccer coaching that’s another 30k on top.
I was planning on quitting but after reading this I’ll just check boxes and secure my family’s financial well-being. If that means passing a student who cheats or is absent well so it is. Don’t really care anymore about the “future of this nation”.
A Jefferson contract and soccer coaching sound like a great idea. You might as well just move into the building, because you will be living there. Can they get you a cot? It sounds like a lot of overtime just to be able to be financially right
Anonymous
04/26/2022 19:54
Subject: Re:Teachers with 2 or more job s
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is VERY common for teachers to have second or third jobs. Have you seen the pay scale? They start in the 40s. You try finding a decent 1-bedroom apartment at that salary. Let alone buy a car, pay for insurance, pay for food AND pay off student loans... All for a thankless job where we're attacked at every turn. I used to tell people I was a teacher, and I said it with pride. Now I just make up something.
Puleeezze. The average individual income for PW is $48,000. The average PWCP school teacher is $57,000. Stop it with the slave wages bullshit.
When would a first year teacher ever be paid the "average"? It is a pay scale. You start at the bottom and hopefully move up year by year through the steps.
Sounds like you are a prime example of why we need teachers. That and your nasty potty mouth. What an ugly person you are, PP. No wonder people don't want to be teachers anymore if they have to deal with people like you.
Nope, my brother is a 4th grade teacher and is 29 years old making $100K at with mcps. My child’s tutor at 34 is making $120K in DC.
This isn’t true unless your brother is making money doing a side job, unless he got his masters when he was 13 years old.
Anonymous
04/26/2022 19:31
Subject: Re:Teachers with 2 or more job s
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is VERY common for teachers to have second or third jobs. Have you seen the pay scale? They start in the 40s. You try finding a decent 1-bedroom apartment at that salary. Let alone buy a car, pay for insurance, pay for food AND pay off student loans... All for a thankless job where we're attacked at every turn. I used to tell people I was a teacher, and I said it with pride. Now I just make up something.
Puleeezze. The average individual income for PW is $48,000. The average PWCP school teacher is $57,000. Stop it with the slave wages bullshit.
When would a first year teacher ever be paid the "average"? It is a pay scale. You start at the bottom and hopefully move up year by year through the steps.
Sounds like you are a prime example of why we need teachers. That and your nasty potty mouth. What an ugly person you are, PP. No wonder people don't want to be teachers anymore if they have to deal with people like you.
Nope, my brother is a 4th grade teacher and is 29 years old making $100K at with mcps. My child’s tutor at 34 is making $120K in DC.
Nope. I’m a master’s + 30, and I’ve been teaching 15 years. I have yet to make $100K. He’s probably doing extra stuff- coaching, summer school. In DC, she deserves what they pay her. Why else would she work there?
Same. I'm also M+30, teaching almost 20 years and just broke $90 this year on the scale.
Where do you work? I guess my LCPS gig isn’t that bad after all… I only have a bachelors and I’m under a decade of experience so I think next year I will bring like 69 or 70. If I am lucky and get a Jeff contract then add 20% salary increase. With soccer coaching that’s another 30k on top.
I was planning on quitting but after reading this I’ll just check boxes and secure my family’s financial well-being. If that means passing a student who cheats or is absent well so it is. Don’t really care anymore about the “future of this nation”.
Anonymous
04/26/2022 17:30
Subject: Re:Teachers with 2 or more job s
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is VERY common for teachers to have second or third jobs. Have you seen the pay scale? They start in the 40s. You try finding a decent 1-bedroom apartment at that salary. Let alone buy a car, pay for insurance, pay for food AND pay off student loans... All for a thankless job where we're attacked at every turn. I used to tell people I was a teacher, and I said it with pride. Now I just make up something.
Puleeezze. The average individual income for PW is $48,000. The average PWCP school teacher is $57,000. Stop it with the slave wages bullshit.
When would a first year teacher ever be paid the "average"? It is a pay scale. You start at the bottom and hopefully move up year by year through the steps.
Sounds like you are a prime example of why we need teachers. That and your nasty potty mouth. What an ugly person you are, PP. No wonder people don't want to be teachers anymore if they have to deal with people like you.
Nope, my brother is a 4th grade teacher and is 29 years old making $100K at with mcps. My child’s tutor at 34 is making $120K in DC.
Nope. I’m a master’s + 30, and I’ve been teaching 15 years. I have yet to make $100K. He’s probably doing extra stuff- coaching, summer school. In DC, she deserves what they pay her. Why else would she work there?
Same. I'm also M+30, teaching almost 20 years and just broke $90 this year on the scale.
I’m also totally sick of the fact that even though I’m more educated than everyone I know, and even though they all make more than I do, they all tell me all summer long how good I’ve got it.
Anonymous
04/26/2022 10:06
Subject: Teachers with 2 or more job s
Anonymous wrote:I was surprised to see son’s history teacher bartending this weekend. How common is it for teachers or staff members in PWCS to work second, or even third jobs during the school year? I would imagine this impacts their ability to focus on students and lesson planning, let alone having much needed down time on the weekends?
according to my DS teacher lives in one bedroom apartment alone.
So you expect teachers to be working on the weekends, just not in a way that would actually increase their income?
Anonymous
04/25/2022 19:00
Subject: Re:Teachers with 2 or more job s
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is VERY common for teachers to have second or third jobs. Have you seen the pay scale? They start in the 40s. You try finding a decent 1-bedroom apartment at that salary. Let alone buy a car, pay for insurance, pay for food AND pay off student loans... All for a thankless job where we're attacked at every turn. I used to tell people I was a teacher, and I said it with pride. Now I just make up something.
Puleeezze. The average individual income for PW is $48,000. The average PWCP school teacher is $57,000. Stop it with the slave wages bullshit.
When would a first year teacher ever be paid the "average"? It is a pay scale. You start at the bottom and hopefully move up year by year through the steps.
Sounds like you are a prime example of why we need teachers. That and your nasty potty mouth. What an ugly person you are, PP. No wonder people don't want to be teachers anymore if they have to deal with people like you.
Nope, my brother is a 4th grade teacher and is 29 years old making $100K at with mcps. My child’s tutor at 34 is making $120K in DC.
Nope. I’m a master’s + 30, and I’ve been teaching 15 years. I have yet to make $100K. He’s probably doing extra stuff- coaching, summer school. In DC, she deserves what they pay her. Why else would she work there?
Same. I'm also M+30, teaching almost 20 years and just broke $90 this year on the scale.
Anonymous
04/25/2022 18:45
Subject: Re:Teachers with 2 or more job s
I've been teaching nearly 30 years. I finally stopped working a second job around year 20. Some of those years with two jobs though I worked extra so I could save for a house down payment, or other things. I ALWAYS work summers. My first few years teaching I worked for a catholic school making 18K a year (this was in the mid 90's). I tutored 6 hours a week on the side, worked the lunchroom for extra money, and also babysat regularly. And I was in grad school too.
Anonymous
04/25/2022 17:17
Subject: Re:Teachers with 2 or more job s
I worked as adjunct faculty at community colleges for the first 20 years. It was frustrating because I knew I wasn’t always able to give the time into creating my lessons due to the second job, but I’m single and had to make ends meet.
I’m a much better teacher now that I can spend more time after hours on preparing.
I’m a much better teacher now that I can spend more time after hours on preparing.
Anonymous
04/25/2022 15:40
Subject: Re:Teachers with 2 or more job s
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is VERY common for teachers to have second or third jobs. Have you seen the pay scale? They start in the 40s. You try finding a decent 1-bedroom apartment at that salary. Let alone buy a car, pay for insurance, pay for food AND pay off student loans... All for a thankless job where we're attacked at every turn. I used to tell people I was a teacher, and I said it with pride. Now I just make up something.
Puleeezze. The average individual income for PW is $48,000. The average PWCP school teacher is $57,000. Stop it with the slave wages bullshit.
When would a first year teacher ever be paid the "average"? It is a pay scale. You start at the bottom and hopefully move up year by year through the steps.
Sounds like you are a prime example of why we need teachers. That and your nasty potty mouth. What an ugly person you are, PP. No wonder people don't want to be teachers anymore if they have to deal with people like you.
Nope, my brother is a 4th grade teacher and is 29 years old making $100K at with mcps. My child’s tutor at 34 is making $120K in DC.
The MCPS payscales are public. Even with a Masters, he’s not making 100k at 29.
Oh yes he is
The pay scales are online. Your brother is lying to you or you are lying to everyone else.
I am a teacher and I actually don’t think the compensation is as awful as what people make it out to be. I have very good benefits, am on the VRS, and have job security. A lot of my friends who wanted “do gooder” jobs or creative jobs have it worse. But 100k at 29 is simply false. The tutor may pull in 120k in hourly billing I guess.
I also don’t think our compensation is that bad. I started following an Instagram account called Salary Transparent Street where people share their jobs and salaries and many of them make the same or less than teachers. I think many teachers get locked into the idea that everyone makes more money than them and it’s just not true. I think my job is hard but decently compensated.
Thank you for saying this. I have worked in NGOs and in policy fields and new college grads typically make around 50k - not that much more than new teachers, and with no pension, no 8 week breaks in the summer, and with much less stability. All jobs have pros and cons.
Anonymous
04/25/2022 12:08
Subject: Re:Teachers with 2 or more job s
I am a speech pathologist but we are paid on the T-Scale just like teachers. I have always seen private clients to supplement my school salary. It's not that I couldn't make ends meet without doing that but I would basically have no savings if I didn't do it. This area is so expensive. I am able to save about $35k per year by working an extra 9 hours a week. Its really worth it to me!
Anonymous
04/25/2022 06:49
Subject: Re:Teachers with 2 or more job s
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is VERY common for teachers to have second or third jobs. Have you seen the pay scale? They start in the 40s. You try finding a decent 1-bedroom apartment at that salary. Let alone buy a car, pay for insurance, pay for food AND pay off student loans... All for a thankless job where we're attacked at every turn. I used to tell people I was a teacher, and I said it with pride. Now I just make up something.
Puleeezze. The average individual income for PW is $48,000. The average PWCP school teacher is $57,000. Stop it with the slave wages bullshit.
When would a first year teacher ever be paid the "average"? It is a pay scale. You start at the bottom and hopefully move up year by year through the steps.
Sounds like you are a prime example of why we need teachers. That and your nasty potty mouth. What an ugly person you are, PP. No wonder people don't want to be teachers anymore if they have to deal with people like you.
Nope, my brother is a 4th grade teacher and is 29 years old making $100K at with mcps. My child’s tutor at 34 is making $120K in DC.
The MCPS payscales are public. Even with a Masters, he’s not making 100k at 29.
Oh yes he is
The pay scales are online. Your brother is lying to you or you are lying to everyone else.
I am a teacher and I actually don’t think the compensation is as awful as what people make it out to be. I have very good benefits, am on the VRS, and have job security. A lot of my friends who wanted “do gooder” jobs or creative jobs have it worse. But 100k at 29 is simply false. The tutor may pull in 120k in hourly billing I guess.
I also don’t think our compensation is that bad. I started following an Instagram account called Salary Transparent Street where people share their jobs and salaries and many of them make the same or less than teachers. I think many teachers get locked into the idea that everyone makes more money than them and it’s just not true. I think my job is hard but decently compensated.
Anonymous
04/25/2022 06:15
Subject: Re:Teachers with 2 or more job s
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is VERY common for teachers to have second or third jobs. Have you seen the pay scale? They start in the 40s. You try finding a decent 1-bedroom apartment at that salary. Let alone buy a car, pay for insurance, pay for food AND pay off student loans... All for a thankless job where we're attacked at every turn. I used to tell people I was a teacher, and I said it with pride. Now I just make up something.
Puleeezze. The average individual income for PW is $48,000. The average PWCP school teacher is $57,000. Stop it with the slave wages bullshit.
When would a first year teacher ever be paid the "average"? It is a pay scale. You start at the bottom and hopefully move up year by year through the steps.
Sounds like you are a prime example of why we need teachers. That and your nasty potty mouth. What an ugly person you are, PP. No wonder people don't want to be teachers anymore if they have to deal with people like you.
Nope, my brother is a 4th grade teacher and is 29 years old making $100K at with mcps. My child’s tutor at 34 is making $120K in DC.
Nope. I’m a master’s + 30, and I’ve been teaching 15 years. I have yet to make $100K. He’s probably doing extra stuff- coaching, summer school. In DC, she deserves what they pay her. Why else would she work there?