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Anonymous wrote:I’m Catholic, and I have been told that there is only one person that we can be certain is not in Heaven, and that is Judas, and I have been told that there is no one we can be certain is not in Heaven.

There are many people that the Catholic Church recognizes as saints who have died and gone to Heaven, but I have never heard of the opposite of that, namely people we know for sure are not in Heaven.

So, while baptism places a mark on your soul that you are part of the Church, it doesn’t mean that you are bound for Heaven or that others are not. There is no way to know that.

There is no way to know almost everything about religion. It is a question of belief.

I personally view baptism as a symbolic expression- much like all of the sacraments. Baptism is a symbolic expression of joining a faith and dedicating oneself (or a parent dedicating the baby to it I guess). The same goes with marriage and communion.

None of them are determinative regarding salvation or "getting into heaven."

So then there’s really no importance attached to being “saved”?

Yeah, now I'm confused too. So is getting into "heaven" different from having "eternal life?" Cuz that's what John 3:16 says you'll have if you believeth in Him.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m Catholic, and I have been told that there is only one person that we can be certain is not in Heaven, and that is Judas, and I have been told that there is no one we can be certain is not in Heaven.

There are many people that the Catholic Church recognizes as saints who have died and gone to Heaven, but I have never heard of the opposite of that, namely people we know for sure are not in Heaven.

So, while baptism places a mark on your soul that you are part of the Church, it doesn’t mean that you are bound for Heaven or that others are not. There is no way to know that.

There is no way to know almost everything about religion. It is a question of belief.

I personally view baptism as a symbolic expression- much like all of the sacraments. Baptism is a symbolic expression of joining a faith and dedicating oneself (or a parent dedicating the baby to it I guess). The same goes with marriage and communion.

None of them are determinative regarding salvation or "getting into heaven."

So then there’s really no importance attached to being “saved”?

Yeah, now I'm confused too. So is getting into "heaven" different from having "eternal life?" Cuz that's what John 3:16 says you'll have if you believeth in Him.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m Catholic, and I have been told that there is only one person that we can be certain is not in Heaven, and that is Judas, and I have been told that there is no one we can be certain is not in Heaven.

There are many people that the Catholic Church recognizes as saints who have died and gone to Heaven, but I have never heard of the opposite of that, namely people we know for sure are not in Heaven.

So, while baptism places a mark on your soul that you are part of the Church, it doesn’t mean that you are bound for Heaven or that others are not. There is no way to know that.

There is no way to know almost everything about religion. It is a question of belief.

I personally view baptism as a symbolic expression- much like all of the sacraments. Baptism is a symbolic expression of joining a faith and dedicating oneself (or a parent dedicating the baby to it I guess). The same goes with marriage and communion.

None of them are determinative regarding salvation or "getting into heaven."

So then there’s really no importance attached to being “saved”?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m Catholic, and I have been told that there is only one person that we can be certain is not in Heaven, and that is Judas, and I have been told that there is no one we can be certain is not in Heaven.

There are many people that the Catholic Church recognizes as saints who have died and gone to Heaven, but I have never heard of the opposite of that, namely people we know for sure are not in Heaven.

So, while baptism places a mark on your soul that you are part of the Church, it doesn’t mean that you are bound for Heaven or that others are not. There is no way to know that.

There is no way to know almost everything about religion. It is a question of belief.

I personally view baptism as a symbolic expression- much like all of the sacraments. Baptism is a symbolic expression of joining a faith and dedicating oneself (or a parent dedicating the baby to it I guess). The same goes with marriage and communion.

None of them are determinative regarding salvation or "getting into heaven."

So then there’s really no importance attached to being “saved”?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m Catholic, and I have been told that there is only one person that we can be certain is not in Heaven, and that is Judas, and I have been told that there is no one we can be certain is not in Heaven.

There are many people that the Catholic Church recognizes as saints who have died and gone to Heaven, but I have never heard of the opposite of that, namely people we know for sure are not in Heaven.

So, while baptism places a mark on your soul that you are part of the Church, it doesn’t mean that you are bound for Heaven or that others are not. There is no way to know that.

There is no way to know almost everything about religion. It is a question of belief.

I personally view baptism as a symbolic expression- much like all of the sacraments. Baptism is a symbolic expression of joining a faith and dedicating oneself (or a parent dedicating the baby to it I guess). The same goes with marriage and communion.

None of them are determinative regarding salvation or "getting into heaven."

Anonymous wrote:I’m Catholic, and I have been told that there is only one person that we can be certain is not in Heaven, and that is Judas, and I have been told that there is no one we can be certain is not in Heaven.

There are many people that the Catholic Church recognizes as saints who have died and gone to Heaven, but I have never heard of the opposite of that, namely people we know for sure are not in Heaven.

So, while baptism places a mark on your soul that you are part of the Church, it doesn’t mean that you are bound for Heaven or that others are not. There is no way to know that.

Anonymous[b wrote:]All these questions can be googled for an answer, or op could speak with a member of clergy.
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It’s clear that anti-religion posters pose questions to make religion seem cruel, then flee and watch as people comment on their fake dilemma.

op won’t answer what religion she is. once the question has been posted, op rarely shows up again.

God isn’t bound by sacraments, and desires His children be saved.

Anonymous wrote:All these questions can be googled for an answer, or op could speak with a member of clergy.

It’s clear that anti-religion posters pose questions to make religion seem cruel, then flee and watch as people comment on their fake dilemma.

op won’t answer what religion she is. once the question has been posted, op rarely shows up again.

God isn’t bound by sacraments, and desires His children be saved.

Anonymous wrote:All these questions can be googled for an answer, or op could speak with a member of clergy.

It’s clear that anti-religion posters pose questions to make religion seem cruel, then flee and watch as people comment on their fake dilemma.

op won’t answer what religion she is. once the question has been posted, op rarely shows up again.

God isn’t bound by sacraments, and desires His children be saved.

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t have to be baptized in any religion I know of you “go to heaven.”

op: what religion are you? Your religion states a person must be baptized to go to heaven?

Not OP, but isn’t that inherent in Christianity?

No, that’s why I was asking what religion op was. No religion I know of in Christianity states you must be baptized to go to heaven. There could be some religions or denominations I don’t know of that believe that baptism is necessary to go to heaven.

e.g., Roman Catholicism

God is not bound by sacraments.

According to some religions, you can't get to heaven if you have sinned by breaking a sacrament, e.g., missing mass on Sunday if you're Catholic. That's assuming that you don't confess the sin and receive forgiveness from a priest.


Unless you are o member of a religion that believes in sacraments.

No matter the religion: God is not bound by sacraments. That is what op should remember.

Anonymous wrote:I’m Catholic, and I have been told that there is only one person that we can be certain is not in Heaven, and that is Judas, and I have been told that there is no one we can be certain is not in Heaven.

There are many people that the Catholic Church recognizes as saints who have died and gone to Heaven, but I have never heard of the opposite of that, namely people we know for sure are not in Heaven.

So, while baptism places a mark on your soul that you are part of the Church, it doesn’t mean that you are bound for Heaven or that others are not. There is no way to know that.

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t have to be baptized in any religion I know of you “go to heaven.”

op: what religion are you? Your religion states a person must be baptized to go to heaven?

Not OP, but isn’t that inherent in Christianity?

No, that’s why I was asking what religion op was. No religion I know of in Christianity states you must be baptized to go to heaven. There could be some religions or denominations I don’t know of that believe that baptism is necessary to go to heaven.

e.g., Roman Catholicism

God is not bound by sacraments.

Unless you are o member of a religion that believes in sacraments.