Anonymous wrote:OP, you are the one living this, not us. You don’t need anyone here to tell you his behavior is abusive, and shouldn’t listen to anyone who tries to tell you that you should continue to tolerate abusive behavior.
Your husband has no intention of changing, and his behavior will likely get worse and your child get older and he has less control over them. It is time to get out. PP’s suggestion of talking to a lawyer to understand how to protect yourself legally for he divorce and a therapist to help you make a safe exit plan and put supports in place for you and your kids after you leave him is exactly right.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think this is abusive. It's just totally unnecessary and not good parenting.
He sounds like an immature ass and a terrible dad, but I wouldn't call these examples abusive.
I also wouldn't stay in a relationship like this. Behavior doesn't have to be abuse to be unacceptable.
A lot of people don’t understand what emotional abuse is. It can be hard to define. But maybe you should read about it and try to understand it before deciding that OP’s examples aren’t abusive which you obviously don’t know what you’re talking about.
I run cold. If DH opened all the windows on a cold day and I went around shutting them and then he called me abusive for it, I'd laugh myself silly. I have to tell my DD(3) multiple times a day that I can't do things with her because I have to work, and it bums her out, but it's also true. If she were older I would make the connection between my working and us having a house - that's not abusive it's reality.
The point is the worst examples OP can come up with (shutting windows, not leaving work early for a sport event) just aren't that big of a deal. It's not clear whether her DH is trying to joke or trying to frighten his kids, and the kids' reactions seem over the top, and that OTT-ness seems to be actively encouraged by OP.
Like I said: I wouldn't be in a relationship like this. But the way you guys sling "abuse" around OP's DH could come here with the same facts and tell a story about how his spouse is ignoring his temperature requests and hyping up the kids to guilt him about having to work at a job, and if he gender-flipped the post you'd tell him he was being abused and gaslighted too.
Anonymous wrote:This is a dysfunctional family. I don't know if the mother is contributing to the disfunction but the father certainly is.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think this is abusive. It's just totally unnecessary and not good parenting.
+1. Also, OPs post is dripping with resentment so it’s hard to get a read on whether he’s just making bad swing-and-a-miss dad jokes or actually being sincere.
You wouldn’t resent someone who repeatedly treats you and your kids like this?
Would the husband be wrong for resenting and rejecting guilt trips from someone who catastrophizes about shutting windows in FEBRUARY as abuse?
You seem really incapable of reading comprehension.
The problem wasn't the closing of windows. The problem was the slamming them shut and then threatening to move out of the house in front of a little kid, who clearly took it seriously.
You seem intent on indulging the children (tweens, not “little kids”) in the same catastrophizing they have learned from their mother, whereas the father is not. It’s a wreck on all sides.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think this is abusive. It's just totally unnecessary and not good parenting.
+1. Also, OPs post is dripping with resentment so it’s hard to get a read on whether he’s just making bad swing-and-a-miss dad jokes or actually being sincere.
You wouldn’t resent someone who repeatedly treats you and your kids like this?
Would the husband be wrong for resenting and rejecting guilt trips from someone who catastrophizes about shutting windows in FEBRUARY as abuse?
You seem really incapable of reading comprehension.
The problem wasn't the closing of windows. The problem was the slamming them shut and then threatening to move out of the house in front of a little kid, who clearly took it seriously.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think this is abusive. It's just totally unnecessary and not good parenting.
+1. Also, OPs post is dripping with resentment so it’s hard to get a read on whether he’s just making bad swing-and-a-miss dad jokes or actually being sincere.
You wouldn’t resent someone who repeatedly treats you and your kids like this?
Would the husband be wrong for resenting and rejecting guilt trips from someone who catastrophizes about shutting windows in FEBRUARY as abuse?
Anonymous wrote:I don't think this is abusive. It's just totally unnecessary and not good parenting.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think this is abusive. It's just totally unnecessary and not good parenting.
He sounds like an immature ass and a terrible dad, but I wouldn't call these examples abusive.
I also wouldn't stay in a relationship like this. Behavior doesn't have to be abuse to be unacceptable.
A lot of people don’t understand what emotional abuse is. It can be hard to define. But maybe you should read about it and try to understand it before deciding that OP’s examples aren’t abusive which you obviously don’t know what you’re talking about.
I run cold. If DH opened all the windows on a cold day and I went around shutting them and then he called me abusive for it, I'd laugh myself silly. I have to tell my DD(3) multiple times a day that I can't do things with her because I have to work, and it bums her out, but it's also true. If she were older I would make the connection between my working and us having a house - that's not abusive it's reality.
The point is the worst examples OP can come up with (shutting windows, not leaving work early for a sport event) just aren't that big of a deal. It's not clear whether her DH is trying to joke or trying to frighten his kids, and the kids' reactions seem over the top, and that OTT-ness seems to be actively encouraged by OP.
Like I said: I wouldn't be in a relationship like this. But the way you guys sling "abuse" around OP's DH could come here with the same facts and tell a story about how his spouse is ignoring his temperature requests and hyping up the kids to guilt him about having to work at a job, and if he gender-flipped the post you'd tell him he was being abused and gaslighted too.
Wow you really don’t understand what emotional abuse is…maybe go read about it. It’s not at all the same as you just going around shutting windows on a cold day. That’s not what this is about. It’s about how OP’s husband is trying to undermine his kids’ sense of safety and well being by making them fear he’ll lose his job and they’ll be homeless. If you think they’re overreacting then you’ve never witnessed or experienced someone you care deeply about showing such contempt and disregard for you like OP and her kids clearly have. Lucky you.
I stand by what I said: using this standard, OP's DH could describe the exact same events and you would call OP abusive from his POV as long as he flipped the genders.
I feel sorry for you that you don’t have the capacity to understand this or care enough to learn more about it.
You're attempting to use your emotions to manipulate me and invalidate my perspective. Gaslighting.