Anonymous wrote:I actually enjoyed watching Sienna Miller. She was poised but not zen nor complacent. They slept in the same bed but didn't have any physical contact after the revelation. She gets lots of criticism because she's gorgeous and IMO many people can't accept that a beautiful woman can also be great at her job.

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Anonymous wrote:Sienna Miller’s performance is terrible. She’s downright zen and pleasant in the face of betrayal? Ridiculous.

Agree!! Actually, both of them - Sophie and her philandering husband. He's so matter-of-fact about cheating on his wife for FIVE months, and she's upset, yes, but mostly very zen, as you said. So weird.

I love shows like this, that take us into the beautiful homes (and clothes) of the very wealthy. It reminds me a lot of The Undoing with Nicole Kidman and Hugh Grant. I've only seen the first episode, so I hope I continue to enjoy it.

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Anonymous wrote:Sienna Miller’s performance is terrible. She’s downright zen and pleasant in the face of betrayal? Ridiculous.

hello?
did you miss her VOMITING in the sink?



Nothing zen about that.

DP. Yes - that one scene showed how completely distressed she was. But she got over it and moved on pretty rapidly. I didn't find that realistic at all.

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Anonymous wrote:Sienna Miller’s performance is terrible. She’s downright zen and pleasant in the face of betrayal? Ridiculous.

hello?
did you miss her VOMITING in the sink?



Nothing zen about that.

Anonymous wrote:Sienna Miller’s performance is terrible. She’s downright zen and pleasant in the face of betrayal? Ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:I binged it yesterday and loved it!

SPOILER ALERT

I loved that Sophie didn’t turn Kate in! She learned about her own privilege as well as her husbands. I do wish they’d included one scene about Olivia’s reaction to the verdict.


But all in all, an excellent short series. I wish the US would start making more short series.

There are tons of US mini series. Also this was done by an American and Candadian.

Not good ones and none I can think of recently.

Nicole Kidman alone has several in the last few years. Yes, she’s not American but the series have been.
The Undoing
Nine Perfect Strangers

Then there’s:
Queens Gambit
Dopesick
The Dropout
Unbelievable
Little Fires Everywhere
Safe
When They See Us
What/If
Seven Seconds
Inventing Anna
Godless
The Girl From Plainville
The Thing About Pam

And so so many more…

Funny that you missed Big Little Lies, also a David E Kelly special

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Anonymous wrote:I binged it yesterday and loved it!

SPOILER ALERT

I loved that Sophie didn’t turn Kate in! She learned about her own privilege as well as her husbands. I do wish they’d included one scene about Olivia’s reaction to the verdict.


But all in all, an excellent short series. I wish the US would start making more short series.

There are tons of US mini series. Also this was done by an American and Candadian.

Not good ones and none I can think of recently.

Nicole Kidman alone has several in the last few years. Yes, she’s not American but the series have been.
The Undoing
Nine Perfect Strangers

Then there’s:
Queens Gambit
Dopesick
The Dropout
Unbelievable
Little Fires Everywhere
Safe
When They See Us
What/If
Seven Seconds
Inventing Anna
Godless
The Girl From Plainville
The Thing About Pam

And so so many more…

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Anonymous wrote:***SPOILERS***

I liked the series. I thought every actor was great. I think Sienna Miller is a timeless beauty. I am a woman. However, I am struggling with the way people are blatantly referring to both scenarios as rape. I think both scenarios are quite grey. I wanted there to be a definitive “no” uttered from both women but there wasn’t. It was hard to despise James because neither women uttered “no” or “stop”. And yes, in fact, Olivia did say she said not here which to me does imply “yes, I wanna bone you but not right here in the elevator.”

I am all about believing women but if we continue to put out narratives like this as being definitive rape, we are setting ourselves up for failure. I have a son and a daughter. I want my son to know about consent just as much as I want my daughter to use her voice and state definitively when she’s not comfortable in a situation. Yell loudly, “no! Stop! Rape!” So there can be no uncertainty from anyone.

While I’m on it, and expect to be flamed, I’m also unsure why James was being carted off by police at the end. Sure running away when your friend jumps to his death could “maybe” be a crime (failure to report?) but I don’t see what the charge would be, especially 20 years later with no eyewitnesses. Same goes for the Prime Minister. Again, I wanted to hate them both. The Libertine scenes screamed of images from Kavanaugh high school and college days. I just wanted it to be more black and white.

The Prime Minister bought the heroine. And James lied and coveted for him as well as disposed of the leftover heroin.

I understand. Again, 20 years ago with no witnesses. I’m sure there are statute of limitations for buying heroine and running from a scene of a crime charges (again, there would still need to be witnesses or any evidence other than hearsay). It just made the whole series unbelievable to me. It should have ended with just a tabloid publication. That’s enough scandal.

+1

The only clear crime was the one by the prosecutor.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I binged it yesterday and loved it!

SPOILER ALERT

I loved that Sophie didn’t turn Kate in! She learned about her own privilege as well as her husbands. I do wish they’d included one scene about Olivia’s reaction to the verdict.


But all in all, an excellent short series. I wish the US would start making more short series.

There are tons of US mini series. Also this was done by an American and Candadian.

Not good ones and none I can think of recently.

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Anonymous wrote:***SPOILERS***

I liked the series. I thought every actor was great. I think Sienna Miller is a timeless beauty. I am a woman. However, I am struggling with the way people are blatantly referring to both scenarios as rape. I think both scenarios are quite grey. I wanted there to be a definitive “no” uttered from both women but there wasn’t. It was hard to despise James because neither women uttered “no” or “stop”. And yes, in fact, Olivia did say she said not here which to me does imply “yes, I wanna bone you but not right here in the elevator.”

I am all about believing women but if we continue to put out narratives like this as being definitive rape, we are setting ourselves up for failure. I have a son and a daughter. I want my son to know about consent just as much as I want my daughter to use her voice and state definitively when she’s not comfortable in a situation. Yell loudly, “no! Stop! Rape!” So there can be no uncertainty from anyone.

While I’m on it, and expect to be flamed, I’m also unsure why James was being carted off by police at the end. Sure running away when your friend jumps to his death could “maybe” be a crime (failure to report?) but I don’t see what the charge would be, especially 20 years later with no eyewitnesses. Same goes for the Prime Minister. Again, I wanted to hate them both. The Libertine scenes screamed of images from Kavanaugh high school and college days. I just wanted it to be more black and white.

The Prime Minister bought the heroine. And James lied and coveted for him as well as disposed of the leftover heroin.

I understand. Again, 20 years ago with no witnesses. I’m sure there are statute of limitations for buying heroine and running from a scene of a crime charges (again, there would still need to be witnesses or any evidence other than hearsay). It just made the whole series unbelievable to me. It should have ended with just a tabloid publication. That’s enough scandal.

+1

The only clear crime was the one by the prosecutor.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:***SPOILERS***

I liked the series. I thought every actor was great. I think Sienna Miller is a timeless beauty. I am a woman. However, I am struggling with the way people are blatantly referring to both scenarios as rape. I think both scenarios are quite grey. I wanted there to be a definitive “no” uttered from both women but there wasn’t. It was hard to despise James because neither women uttered “no” or “stop”. And yes, in fact, Olivia did say she said not here which to me does imply “yes, I wanna bone you but not right here in the elevator.”

I am all about believing women but if we continue to put out narratives like this as being definitive rape, we are setting ourselves up for failure. I have a son and a daughter. I want my son to know about consent just as much as I want my daughter to use her voice and state definitively when she’s not comfortable in a situation. Yell loudly, “no! Stop! Rape!” So there can be no uncertainty from anyone.

While I’m on it, and expect to be flamed, I’m also unsure why James was being carted off by police at the end. Sure running away when your friend jumps to his death could “maybe” be a crime (failure to report?) but I don’t see what the charge would be, especially 20 years later with no eyewitnesses. Same goes for the Prime Minister. Again, I wanted to hate them both. The Libertine scenes screamed of images from Kavanaugh high school and college days. I just wanted it to be more black and white.

The Prime Minister bought the heroine. And James lied and coveted for him as well as disposed of the leftover heroin.

I understand. Again, 20 years ago with no witnesses. I’m sure there are statute of limitations for buying heroine and running from a scene of a crime charges (again, there would still need to be witnesses or any evidence other than hearsay). It just made the whole series unbelievable to me. It should have ended with just a tabloid publication. That’s enough scandal.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:***SPOILERS***

I liked the series. I thought every actor was great. I think Sienna Miller is a timeless beauty. I am a woman. However, I am struggling with the way people are blatantly referring to both scenarios as rape. I think both scenarios are quite grey. I wanted there to be a definitive “no” uttered from both women but there wasn’t. It was hard to despise James because neither women uttered “no” or “stop”. And yes, in fact, Olivia did say she said not here which to me does imply “yes, I wanna bone you but not right here in the elevator.”

I am all about believing women but if we continue to put out narratives like this as being definitive rape, we are setting ourselves up for failure. I have a son and a daughter. I want my son to know about consent just as much as I want my daughter to use her voice and state definitively when she’s not comfortable in a situation. Yell loudly, “no! Stop! Rape!” So there can be no uncertainty from anyone.

While I’m on it, and expect to be flamed, I’m also unsure why James was being carted off by police at the end. Sure running away when your friend jumps to his death could “maybe” be a crime (failure to report?) but I don’t see what the charge would be, especially 20 years later with no eyewitnesses. Same goes for the Prime Minister. Again, I wanted to hate them both. The Libertine scenes screamed of images from Kavanaugh high school and college days. I just wanted it to be more black and white.

To me it wasn't Kavanaugh. It was the societies at Cambridge, Oxford, etc that were being referenced.

Not everything is about US politics.