Anonymous
03/17/2022 18:01
Subject: Re:latest updates on Woodward
Is there any reason why are people assuming that DCC students will be rezoned only to Woodward, and not to WJ as well? They are going to try to reduce disparities in FARMS rates between neighboring schools as well as they reasonably can, right?
Anonymous
03/17/2022 17:18
Subject: latest updates on Woodward
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is it pretty much assumed that the WJ kids moving will be the kids from Tilden feeder, and maybe some of the KP kids out of NB? Just wondering what is the likely outcome.
I have pretty much zero interest in the performing arts magnet. I feel like it just makes it that much harder for "normal" kids to participate in arts programs--and I feel like the main purpose of arts in public schools is to provide a fun and enriching experience to the widest range of kids. I view arts like I view sports. But I appreciate that my view is not shared by all.
With these "magnets" they provide more teachers and classes for all students.
I think we really need to wait for the 2023 and 2024 enrollment numbers at WJ and Wheaton and Einstein in order to assess whether there would even be room in the Woodward building to add a magnet program there. Remember, they recently had to reduce the overall building capacity down to 2160.
WJ is expected to be about 600 students over capacity and the DCC about 200 over. There'll be a lot of room for a magnet if MCPS wants to do it.
https://gis.mcpsmd.org/cipmasterpdfs/CIP23_Chapter4JohnsonW.pdf
https://gis.mcpsmd.org/cipmasterpdfs/CIP23_Chapter4DowncountyConsortium.pdf
Einstein alone is about 300 students over capacity this year, and is estimated to be about 500 over capacity by the time Woodward opens in 2025.
And their goal will be to get all of the overcapacity schools further down to 80-90% if possible, not to leave them at 100% without any room to grow. So they will likely rezone more than the bare minimum number of students.
Right now, the "wisdom" is that they'll take the Tilden feeders and send to Woodward and leave the NB feeders at WJ. But that means neither will have a full HS complement -- WJ will have about 1600 and Woodward about 1300. If they're doing a magnet at Woodward, of say 100 per year (so 400 total) that leaves about 500 seats. But then what about WJ? At 1600, they're about 250 short of 80% capacity.
And that doesn’t address the overcrowding issues at Einstein in particular. I don’t think it’s likely that they will send an entire WJ middle school because WJ doesn’t need to halve it’s student body, and Woodward also needs to accommodate some DCC feeders in addition to this potential magnet.
Anonymous
03/17/2022 17:04
Subject: latest updates on Woodward
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is it pretty much assumed that the WJ kids moving will be the kids from Tilden feeder, and maybe some of the KP kids out of NB? Just wondering what is the likely outcome.
I have pretty much zero interest in the performing arts magnet. I feel like it just makes it that much harder for "normal" kids to participate in arts programs--and I feel like the main purpose of arts in public schools is to provide a fun and enriching experience to the widest range of kids. I view arts like I view sports. But I appreciate that my view is not shared by all.
With these "magnets" they provide more teachers and classes for all students.
I think we really need to wait for the 2023 and 2024 enrollment numbers at WJ and Wheaton and Einstein in order to assess whether there would even be room in the Woodward building to add a magnet program there. Remember, they recently had to reduce the overall building capacity down to 2160.
WJ is expected to be about 600 students over capacity and the DCC about 200 over. There'll be a lot of room for a magnet if MCPS wants to do it.
https://gis.mcpsmd.org/cipmasterpdfs/CIP23_Chapter4JohnsonW.pdf
https://gis.mcpsmd.org/cipmasterpdfs/CIP23_Chapter4DowncountyConsortium.pdf
Einstein alone is about 300 students over capacity this year, and is estimated to be about 500 over capacity by the time Woodward opens in 2025.
And their goal will be to get all of the overcapacity schools further down to 80-90% if possible, not to leave them at 100% without any room to grow. So they will likely rezone more than the bare minimum number of students.
Right now, the "wisdom" is that they'll take the Tilden feeders and send to Woodward and leave the NB feeders at WJ. But that means neither will have a full HS complement -- WJ will have about 1600 and Woodward about 1300. If they're doing a magnet at Woodward, of say 100 per year (so 400 total) that leaves about 500 seats. But then what about WJ? At 1600, they're about 250 short of 80% capacity.
Anonymous
03/17/2022 13:10
Subject: latest updates on Woodward
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is it pretty much assumed that the WJ kids moving will be the kids from Tilden feeder, and maybe some of the KP kids out of NB? Just wondering what is the likely outcome.
I have pretty much zero interest in the performing arts magnet. I feel like it just makes it that much harder for "normal" kids to participate in arts programs--and I feel like the main purpose of arts in public schools is to provide a fun and enriching experience to the widest range of kids. I view arts like I view sports. But I appreciate that my view is not shared by all.
With these "magnets" they provide more teachers and classes for all students.
I think we really need to wait for the 2023 and 2024 enrollment numbers at WJ and Wheaton and Einstein in order to assess whether there would even be room in the Woodward building to add a magnet program there. Remember, they recently had to reduce the overall building capacity down to 2160.
WJ is expected to be about 600 students over capacity and the DCC about 200 over. There'll be a lot of room for a magnet if MCPS wants to do it.
https://gis.mcpsmd.org/cipmasterpdfs/CIP23_Chapter4JohnsonW.pdf
https://gis.mcpsmd.org/cipmasterpdfs/CIP23_Chapter4DowncountyConsortium.pdf
Einstein alone is about 300 students over capacity this year, and is estimated to be about 500 over capacity by the time Woodward opens in 2025.
And their goal will be to get all of the overcapacity schools further down to 80-90% if possible, not to leave them at 100% without any room to grow. So they will likely rezone more than the bare minimum number of students.
Anonymous
03/17/2022 12:56
Subject: latest updates on Woodward
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is it pretty much assumed that the WJ kids moving will be the kids from Tilden feeder, and maybe some of the KP kids out of NB? Just wondering what is the likely outcome.
I have pretty much zero interest in the performing arts magnet. I feel like it just makes it that much harder for "normal" kids to participate in arts programs--and I feel like the main purpose of arts in public schools is to provide a fun and enriching experience to the widest range of kids. I view arts like I view sports. But I appreciate that my view is not shared by all.
With these "magnets" they provide more teachers and classes for all students.
I think we really need to wait for the 2023 and 2024 enrollment numbers at WJ and Wheaton and Einstein in order to assess whether there would even be room in the Woodward building to add a magnet program there. Remember, they recently had to reduce the overall building capacity down to 2160.
WJ is expected to be about 600 students over capacity and the DCC about 200 over. There'll be a lot of room for a magnet if MCPS wants to do it.
https://gis.mcpsmd.org/cipmasterpdfs/CIP23_Chapter4JohnsonW.pdf
https://gis.mcpsmd.org/cipmasterpdfs/CIP23_Chapter4DowncountyConsortium.pdf
Einstein alone is about 300 students over capacity this year, and is estimated to be about 500 over capacity by the time Woodward opens in 2025.
Anonymous
03/17/2022 09:49
Subject: latest updates on Woodward
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is it pretty much assumed that the WJ kids moving will be the kids from Tilden feeder, and maybe some of the KP kids out of NB? Just wondering what is the likely outcome.
I have pretty much zero interest in the performing arts magnet. I feel like it just makes it that much harder for "normal" kids to participate in arts programs--and I feel like the main purpose of arts in public schools is to provide a fun and enriching experience to the widest range of kids. I view arts like I view sports. But I appreciate that my view is not shared by all.
With these "magnets" they provide more teachers and classes for all students.
I think we really need to wait for the 2023 and 2024 enrollment numbers at WJ and Wheaton and Einstein in order to assess whether there would even be room in the Woodward building to add a magnet program there. Remember, they recently had to reduce the overall building capacity down to 2160.
WJ is expected to be about 600 students over capacity and the DCC about 200 over. There'll be a lot of room for a magnet if MCPS wants to do it.
https://gis.mcpsmd.org/cipmasterpdfs/CIP23_Chapter4JohnsonW.pdf
https://gis.mcpsmd.org/cipmasterpdfs/CIP23_Chapter4DowncountyConsortium.pdf
Anonymous
03/17/2022 09:44
Subject: latest updates on Woodward
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is it pretty much assumed that the WJ kids moving will be the kids from Tilden feeder, and maybe some of the KP kids out of NB? Just wondering what is the likely outcome.
I have pretty much zero interest in the performing arts magnet. I feel like it just makes it that much harder for "normal" kids to participate in arts programs--and I feel like the main purpose of arts in public schools is to provide a fun and enriching experience to the widest range of kids. I view arts like I view sports. But I appreciate that my view is not shared by all.
With these "magnets" they provide more teachers and classes for all students.
I think we really need to wait for the 2023 and 2024 enrollment numbers at WJ and Wheaton and Einstein in order to assess whether there would even be room in the Woodward building to add a magnet program there. Remember, they recently had to reduce the overall building capacity down to 2160.
How many students would make up a magnet corhort?
Anonymous
03/17/2022 08:06
Subject: latest updates on Woodward
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is it pretty much assumed that the WJ kids moving will be the kids from Tilden feeder, and maybe some of the KP kids out of NB? Just wondering what is the likely outcome.
I have pretty much zero interest in the performing arts magnet. I feel like it just makes it that much harder for "normal" kids to participate in arts programs--and I feel like the main purpose of arts in public schools is to provide a fun and enriching experience to the widest range of kids. I view arts like I view sports. But I appreciate that my view is not shared by all.
With these "magnets" they provide more teachers and classes for all students.
I think we really need to wait for the 2023 and 2024 enrollment numbers at WJ and Wheaton and Einstein in order to assess whether there would even be room in the Woodward building to add a magnet program there. Remember, they recently had to reduce the overall building capacity down to 2160.
Anonymous
03/17/2022 01:43
Subject: latest updates on Woodward
Anonymous wrote:Is it pretty much assumed that the WJ kids moving will be the kids from Tilden feeder, and maybe some of the KP kids out of NB? Just wondering what is the likely outcome.
I have pretty much zero interest in the performing arts magnet. I feel like it just makes it that much harder for "normal" kids to participate in arts programs--and I feel like the main purpose of arts in public schools is to provide a fun and enriching experience to the widest range of kids. I view arts like I view sports. But I appreciate that my view is not shared by all.
With these "magnets" they provide more teachers and classes for all students.
Anonymous
03/16/2022 22:31
Subject: latest updates on Woodward
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is it pretty much assumed that the WJ kids moving will be the kids from Tilden feeder, and maybe some of the KP kids out of NB? Just wondering what is the likely outcome.
I have pretty much zero interest in the performing arts magnet. I feel like it just makes it that much harder for "normal" kids to participate in arts programs--and I feel like the main purpose of arts in public schools is to provide a fun and enriching experience to the widest range of kids. I view arts like I view sports. But I appreciate that my view is not shared by all.
It’s not really about you though, is it?
Well, we are one of the families potentially affected, so it’s a little bit about me. I was offering my view, but also acknowledging that people have different viewpoints. My guess is you have a different point of view!
Anonymous
03/16/2022 19:15
Subject: latest updates on Woodward
Anonymous wrote:Is it pretty much assumed that the WJ kids moving will be the kids from Tilden feeder, and maybe some of the KP kids out of NB? Just wondering what is the likely outcome.
I have pretty much zero interest in the performing arts magnet. I feel like it just makes it that much harder for "normal" kids to participate in arts programs--and I feel like the main purpose of arts in public schools is to provide a fun and enriching experience to the widest range of kids. I view arts like I view sports. But I appreciate that my view is not shared by all.
It’s not really about you though, is it?
Anonymous
03/16/2022 18:20
Subject: latest updates on Woodward
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is it pretty much assumed that the WJ kids moving will be the kids from Tilden feeder, and maybe some of the KP kids out of NB? Just wondering what is the likely outcome.
I have pretty much zero interest in the performing arts magnet. I feel like it just makes it that much harder for "normal" kids to participate in arts programs--and I feel like the main purpose of arts in public schools is to provide a fun and enriching experience to the widest range of kids. I view arts like I view sports. But I appreciate that my view is not shared by all.
That is what I assume too, but what do any of us know? At this point, it is just too early to say what will happen.
When they start the boundary study the numbers will be clearer. Not sure that WJ needs a 50% reduction, but who knows...
Anonymous
03/16/2022 17:54
Subject: latest updates on Woodward
Anonymous wrote:Is it pretty much assumed that the WJ kids moving will be the kids from Tilden feeder, and maybe some of the KP kids out of NB? Just wondering what is the likely outcome.
I have pretty much zero interest in the performing arts magnet. I feel like it just makes it that much harder for "normal" kids to participate in arts programs--and I feel like the main purpose of arts in public schools is to provide a fun and enriching experience to the widest range of kids. I view arts like I view sports. But I appreciate that my view is not shared by all.
That is what I assume too, but what do any of us know? At this point, it is just too early to say what will happen.
Anonymous
03/16/2022 17:39
Subject: latest updates on Woodward
Anonymous wrote:Is it pretty much assumed that the WJ kids moving will be the kids from Tilden feeder, and maybe some of the KP kids out of NB? Just wondering what is the likely outcome.
I have pretty much zero interest in the performing arts magnet. I feel like it just makes it that much harder for "normal" kids to participate in arts programs--and I feel like the main purpose of arts in public schools is to provide a fun and enriching experience to the widest range of kids. I view arts like I view sports. But I appreciate that my view is not shared by all.
Interesting point - there is already a lot of competition for the shows ...
Anonymous
03/16/2022 16:27
Subject: latest updates on Woodward
Is it pretty much assumed that the WJ kids moving will be the kids from Tilden feeder, and maybe some of the KP kids out of NB? Just wondering what is the likely outcome.
I have pretty much zero interest in the performing arts magnet. I feel like it just makes it that much harder for "normal" kids to participate in arts programs--and I feel like the main purpose of arts in public schools is to provide a fun and enriching experience to the widest range of kids. I view arts like I view sports. But I appreciate that my view is not shared by all.
I have pretty much zero interest in the performing arts magnet. I feel like it just makes it that much harder for "normal" kids to participate in arts programs--and I feel like the main purpose of arts in public schools is to provide a fun and enriching experience to the widest range of kids. I view arts like I view sports. But I appreciate that my view is not shared by all.