This thread is a reason I don't mind gas prices going up. With them being so incredibly low, there's no market incentive to improve efficiency.

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Anonymous wrote:No. I drive so rarely these days working from home. When I average 1 fill up every 3-4 weeks or so an EV will never payoff. My wife actually got a new car (gasoline powered) in December and is still on her second tank of gas.

And that's also a winning response to high gas prices - just don't drive so much!

DP.. the OP asked generic question to "anyone", and for many, they don't plan on buying an EV because they aren't driving much.

I'm one of those. I've always wfh. I did buy a new car pre-pandemic that has better gas mileage than my previous car, though. But, I still don't drive it much.

Anonymous wrote:No. I drive so rarely these days working from home. When I average 1 fill up every 3-4 weeks or so an EV will never payoff. My wife actually got a new car (gasoline powered) in December and is still on her second tank of gas.

And that's also a winning response to high gas prices - just don't drive so much!

No. I drive so rarely these days working from home. When I average 1 fill up every 3-4 weeks or so an EV will never payoff. My wife actually got a new car (gasoline powered) in December and is still on her second tank of gas.

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Anonymous wrote:I actually ran the numbers this morning and I would have to drive an EV 176,000 miles to make up for the difference in cost when trading in my existing car. Oh well…

+1 the math does not check out here.

$5 gallon gas
Current car gets 24 mpg
0.23 c per mile
$21k trade in value

EV
55k - 21k trade in = 34000k
$9 charge for 210 miles
4.3c per mile

34,000/19 c difference between cost per mile = 178,000
And yes, I did not calculate the savings in maintenance but I also didn’t add the costs to add a charger to my garage.

If you do add the costs for a charger in your garage, don't forget to take the tax incentives for it into account -- between federal and D.C. credits, we only had to pay 20 percent of the costs of buying and installing a charger. Also, are you accounting for the $7,500 federal tax credit for the EV purchase?

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Anonymous wrote:I actually ran the numbers this morning and I would have to drive an EV 176,000 miles to make up for the difference in cost when trading in my existing car. Oh well…

+1 the math does not check out here.

$5 gallon gas
Current car gets 24 mpg
0.23 c per mile
$21k trade in value

EV
55k - 21k trade in = 34000k
$9 charge for 210 miles
4.3c per mile

34,000/19 c difference between cost per mile = 178,000
And yes, I did not calculate the savings in maintenance but I also didn’t add the costs to add a charger to my garage.

I was agreeing with you

I'm sure the next car will be EV but I'd like to see more options before I commit to one.

Right now I drive a Subaru outback 2017 and there's no point trading it in. A full tank is costing me $65 at the moment but I also only fill up every three weeks.

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Anonymous wrote:We switched to hybrid a few years ago. I wasn’t sure about all electric yet. Waiting for those to really become more main stream. The hybrid has saved us a lot already. I got it used to Carmax and it was a pretty decent deal. Three year old car

They are pretty mainstream at this point - they are about 5% of US sales and rising rapidly though there are some supply constraints.

And Nissan and Tesla have been selling EV's for 10 years now - Nissan has never had any issues with their batteries.

Nissan has a recall on the leaf for battery issues and is suing a battery supplier for other issues.

Weird - Google doesn't turn up any stories on this.

I don't think there were any recalls. Our early leaf just had a shitty battery to start with.

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Anonymous wrote:Nope. Not until the technology is better. I wanna be able to drive to at least NYC in one charge. I’ll wait until the range is better.

Since it is 230 miles to NYC except for the Leaf I believe all EV's on the market can make it to NYC no problem.

Practically speaking, you'd want to stop once along the road in any ev. Or any gas car, if only to pee. And with an EV because you don't want to arrive in NYC empty untless you're parking in a friend's driveway in queens and can plug in overnight. NYC charging infrastructure sucks.

Turnpike charging, otoh is plentiful. Twenty minutes charging and then back on the road.

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Anonymous wrote:We switched to hybrid a few years ago. I wasn’t sure about all electric yet. Waiting for those to really become more main stream. The hybrid has saved us a lot already. I got it used to Carmax and it was a pretty decent deal. Three year old car

They are pretty mainstream at this point - they are about 5% of US sales and rising rapidly though there are some supply constraints.

And Nissan and Tesla have been selling EV's for 10 years now - Nissan has never had any issues with their batteries.

Nissan has a recall on the leaf for battery issues and is suing a battery supplier for other issues.

Weird - Google doesn't turn up any stories on this.

She means Chevrolet. And they won the case. The second gen Leaf is actually a really reliable car.

Already have one; not using the old gas guzzler right now.

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Anonymous wrote:Nope. Not until the technology is better. I wanna be able to drive to at least NYC in one charge. I’ll wait until the range is better.

I'm pretty sure the Lucid air goes over 500 miles on a charge plus they give you 2-3 years of free charging upon purchase.

They should for those prices!

Anonymous wrote:Nope. Not until the technology is better. I wanna be able to drive to at least NYC in one charge. I’ll wait until the range is better.

I'm pretty sure the Lucid air goes over 500 miles on a charge plus they give you 2-3 years of free charging upon purchase.

Anonymous wrote:Nope, just don't know how to come up with 60,000+ for a car, not going to happen especially with all the other costs of living expenses going through the roof. This is some cr p Biden has gotten us into. And no, Joe, I don't blame Putin. This is on your buddy.

What do you drive now, make and model?
Not all EVs cost $60,000+.

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Anonymous wrote:We switched to hybrid a few years ago. I wasn’t sure about all electric yet. Waiting for those to really become more main stream. The hybrid has saved us a lot already. I got it used to Carmax and it was a pretty decent deal. Three year old car

They are pretty mainstream at this point - they are about 5% of US sales and rising rapidly though there are some supply constraints.

And Nissan and Tesla have been selling EV's for 10 years now - Nissan has never had any issues with their batteries.

Nissan has a recall on the leaf for battery issues and is suing a battery supplier for other issues.

Weird - Google doesn't turn up any stories on this.