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Anonymous wrote:I am not Asian but I hope they fight back. In my city, our number 1 magnet has a high Asian population. Similar things are happening with the admissions process. However, a large percentage of the Asian population have parents who are poor immigrants. People keep throwing the word "privilege" around. I am mot sure how being a poor immigrant and probably a high percentage are not documented make you privileged.

Agree 100%.

The left - on every level - has increasingly fostered a hatred towards Asian people.

Their motive seems to be that the Asian experience in the United States simply obliterates the left’s narrative about “privilege.”

For example, the left pushes this idea:

- “the idea that hard work alone leads to success is a racist micro-aggression”. (implying you are a racist if you say, teach your kids, or even think this is true).

Tired of it, and not following the democrats BS any longer. Completely done with that party, and I am officially an independent now.

FYP. My view is that the racist micro-aggression is the implication that the certain groups (URM, ED, etc.) aren't attaining success simply because they don't work hard. On the other hand, there's nothing racist about acknowledging that hard work is often one component of success (though for some who are very advantaged, it isn't necessarily a requirement either). That may seem like a subtle distinction to you, but it's an absolutely critical one... if you overindex just on "hard work" and believe in the oxymoronic platitude that anyone can just "pull themselves up by their bootstraps" if they simply have the will, etc. then yeah, that's ignoring a ton of structural and other factors, many/most of which have racist elements to them, and hence is an overall racist idea (even if that racism is born out of ignorance and oversimplification, rather than outright intent or contempt).

As an ivy-league educated African-American, I'd said that admissions to elite high schools are the least of our concerns...or at least should be.

Most of us are much more focused on getting black and brown kids to read and perform math at somewhere close to grade level...the numbers are abysmal (though quite mediocre for white kids as well). A world where 50% of black kids read and perform math at grade level is a world transformed---more meaningfully transformed than a world with a few more black kids at TJ, Lowell, or Stuyvesant.

Once we get a critical mass of our kids to grade level, we can then work on cultivating an advanced crew that operates 2-3 years above grade level (which seems to be about avg among Asians or at least certain sub-categories thereof).

At that point, we can begin to have a discussion about elite school admissions and putting in place the requisite prep systems -- which really need to start around 3rd grade...right? My understanding is that Asian parents are working toward schools like TJ for years before taking the test.

To the extent Asian kids are "privileged", it's because they have parents and a community that are truly committed to academic excellence BEYOND what the public school is offering, and they seem to have developed an academic acceleration eco-system to support it. That is a real privilege for kids with access to those (often ethnic) eco-systems, but one that "we" should seek to emulate, not punish.

Funny thing is, most normal black folks (i.e., black folks you'd meet in the barbershop) would agree with all of the above. These school boards need to spend more time on "the street" vs. carousing with white liberals and activists black folks with agendas far removed from the people for whom they purport to speak.

Va. committee passes bill banning admissions discrimination
The Associated Press

“The bottom line is the (TJ) policy was adopted in order to, frankly, reduce the number of Asian Americans that were attending Thomas Jefferson,” Petersen said. “And all you have to do is look at all the public comments that were being made at the time.”

This passed House already and Governor said he will sign so just have to pass the Senate.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not Asian but I hope they fight back. In my city, our number 1 magnet has a high Asian population. Similar things are happening with the admissions process. However, a large percentage of the Asian population have parents who are poor immigrants. People keep throwing the word "privilege" around. I am mot sure how being a poor immigrant and probably a high percentage are not documented make you privileged.

Agree 100%.

The left - on every level - has increasingly fostered a hatred towards Asian people.

Their motive seems to be that the Asian experience in the United States simply obliterates the left’s narrative about “privilege.”

For example, the left pushes this idea:

- “the idea that hard work leads to success is a racist micro-aggression”. (implying you are a racist if you say, teach your kids, or even think this is true).

Tired of it, and not following the democrats BS any longer. Completely done with that party, and I am officially an independent now.

The entire fcps board members will be obliterated next year if they have managed to stay out of prison that long for what they did.

Anonymous wrote:I am not Asian but I hope they fight back. In my city, our number 1 magnet has a high Asian population. Similar things are happening with the admissions process. However, a large percentage of the Asian population have parents who are poor immigrants. People keep throwing the word "privilege" around. I am mot sure how being a poor immigrant and probably a high percentage are not documented make you privileged.

Agree 100%.

The left - on every level - has increasingly fostered a hatred towards Asian people.

Their motive seems to be that the Asian experience in the United States simply obliterates the left’s narrative about “privilege.”

For example, the left pushes this idea:

- “the idea that hard work leads to success is a racist micro-aggression”. (implying you are a racist if you say, teach your kids, or even think this is true).

Tired of it, and not following the democrats BS any longer. Completely done with that party, and I am officially an independent now.

Looking at numbers…

From class of 2024 to class of 2025…
+142 from underrepresented MSs
-36 private school
-42 well-represented MSs

+135 economically disadvantaged
-71 not economically disadvantaged

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Anonymous wrote:I am not Asian but I hope they fight back. In my city, our number 1 magnet has a high Asian population. Similar things are happening with the admissions process. However, a large percentage of the Asian population have parents who are poor immigrants. People keep throwing the word "privilege" around. I am mot sure how being a poor immigrant and probably a high percentage are not documented make you privileged.

Privilege doesn’t only refer to the amount of money someone has. There are lots of ways to be advantaged that don’t involve money at all. Kids have no say in what family they are born to and shouldn’t be penalized for that fact.

Don’t black parents at least speak English? She me Asian parents are not fluent in English so that would put them at a disadvantage.

Why does that matter? If the kid speaks fluent English, it's a non-issue. It's the kid who is applying, not the parent.

Because the entire argument for changing the admissions system at TJ was that Asian parents were privileged and URM parents were not privileged. That’s why.

But the evidence demonstrated that the board's goal was actually to increase *racial* diversity, not socio -economic diversity. ALL this equity bullshit would do better to frame all their standards as socio-economic. They'd suffer much less pushback AND actual stand a chance of being constitutional in their actions.

That’s not “the entire argument”. That’s not part of the argument at all. The argument was only a handful of black, Hispanic, and economically-disadvantaged kids were getting in each year.

What about economically-disadvantaged and English-learning Asian students? They benefit from the new admissions process.

The Asian American community is an incredibly diverse group, and the revised admissions process benefits all students, including Asian American students who are low-income or English language learners, a fact that the Coalition for TJ ignores,” said Niyati Shah, AAAJ (Asian Americans Advancing Justice).

If you go beyond the comments and look at the actual process, it has the largest impact on students from low-income families (of all races).

Applicants get bonus “points” for being low-income, English learners, and coming from unrepresented middle schools. And seats are set aside for all middle schools - even the poor ones.

They also added more seats this year to open up to more kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not Asian but I hope they fight back. In my city, our number 1 magnet has a high Asian population. Similar things are happening with the admissions process. However, a large percentage of the Asian population have parents who are poor immigrants. People keep throwing the word "privilege" around. I am mot sure how being a poor immigrant and probably a high percentage are not documented make you privileged.

What do you think about giving economically-disadvantaged students a little boost in admissions?

I have no problem with that. My point is that many Asian students in my city are disadvantaged. They have poor immigrant families. Many are not documented. I do not think it is fair to try to cut them off from admissions into top schools just because they are Asian

The new TJ admissions process opens admissions to all middle schools in FCPS, not just a handful of rich MSs.

And they give bonus “points” for economically-disadvantaged and English learning students.

So the new process should help poor immigrants of all backgrounds.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not Asian but I hope they fight back. In my city, our number 1 magnet has a high Asian population. Similar things are happening with the admissions process. However, a large percentage of the Asian population have parents who are poor immigrants. People keep throwing the word "privilege" around. I am mot sure how being a poor immigrant and probably a high percentage are not documented make you privileged.

What do you think about giving economically-disadvantaged students a little boost in admissions?

I have no problem with that. My point is that many Asian students in my city are disadvantaged. They have poor immigrant families. Many are not documented. I do not think it is fair to try to cut them off from admissions into top schools just because they are Asian

I don't support Anti-Asian discrimination in admissions

-Black American

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Anonymous wrote:I am not Asian but I hope they fight back. In my city, our number 1 magnet has a high Asian population. Similar things are happening with the admissions process. However, a large percentage of the Asian population have parents who are poor immigrants. People keep throwing the word "privilege" around. I am mot sure how being a poor immigrant and probably a high percentage are not documented make you privileged.

Privilege doesn’t only refer to the amount of money someone has. There are lots of ways to be advantaged that don’t involve money at all. Kids have no say in what family they are born to and shouldn’t be penalized for that fact.

Don’t black parents at least speak English? She me Asian parents are not fluent in English so that would put them at a disadvantage.

Why does that matter? If the kid speaks fluent English, it's a non-issue. It's the kid who is applying, not the parent.

Because the entire argument for changing the admissions system at TJ was that Asian parents were privileged and URM parents were not privileged. That’s why.

But the evidence demonstrated that the board's goal was actually to increase *racial* diversity, not socio -economic diversity. ALL this equity bullshit would do better to frame all their standards as socio-economic. They'd suffer much less pushback AND actual stand a chance of being constitutional in their actions.

That’s not “the entire argument”. That’s not part of the argument at all. The argument was only a handful of black, Hispanic, and economically-disadvantaged kids were getting in each year.

What about economically-disadvantaged and English-learning Asian students? They benefit from the new admissions process.

The Asian American community is an incredibly diverse group, and the revised admissions process benefits all students, including Asian American students who are low-income or English language learners, a fact that the Coalition for TJ ignores,” said Niyati Shah, AAAJ (Asian Americans Advancing Justice).

Enough with the lies. Federal judge recently ruled Asian applicants’ constitutional rights were violated and they were discriminated because they were Asians. Judge also enjoined fcps from using the current admissions system.

The fcps board members and Brabrand are facing massive liability exposure. Class action lawsuit against tcps is being discussed and possible complain to the Justice Department for potential violation of civil rights which a federal judge already found in the recent summary judgment ruling. This is a huge mess for fcps.