Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh, FFS, OP.

Not one of the candidates said anything about "overturning" the decision. They did agree it was wrongly decided because of STATES RIGHTS. That is what this is all about.
The same as Roe v Wade. STATES RIGHTS.

This this this. Some of you should not post about legal issues because you lack all understanding.

I'm the OP of this post and I do not lack understanding. I'm a licensed attorney with a deep interest in privacy law. And my seminar paper in law school was on state coercion/control of women's use of contraception through welfare programs and incentives. "States rights" is a convenient and lazy argument for any federal right one opposes. And here the right they don't agree with is your right to privacy in matters of using contraception to prevent pregnancy.

It's frankly sad and backward that we need/needed the US Supreme Court to articulate this as it should be fundamental and not wrapped up in the culture wars. But here we are. My post title stands: Michigan GOP comes out against right to contraception.

You should be more concerned with the government FORCING women to use birth control. Given the state we are currently in........
There is absolutely no fear of restricting birth control.

The US has a significant problem with declining birth rates. We are on a path to become Japan. No one would artificially lower US births.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh, FFS, OP.

Not one of the candidates said anything about "overturning" the decision. They did agree it was wrongly decided because of STATES RIGHTS. That is what this is all about.
The same as Roe v Wade. STATES RIGHTS.

Don’t waste your time. They won’t listen.

The only ones not listening are people like you. Whether you’re a raging forced birther or whether you’re a pro choicer who likes to feel moderate, the GOP is SHOUTING that they hate women. You are actively arguing that birth control should be kicked back to the states? GTFO and go back to the 1800s where you belong.

+1. Especially since things like the pill are regulated by the FDA and are used for things besides contraception. MNy non-sexually active women take birth control pills for period pain and dysregulation. Some must be on good contraception to take other medication, like Accutane that can cause severe birth defects. These are federal regs, not state. It’s like saying— everyone can take blood pressure medicine— except MI, which has decided it should be illegal.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh, FFS, OP.

Not one of the candidates said anything about "overturning" the decision. They did agree it was wrongly decided because of STATES RIGHTS. That is what this is all about.
The same as Roe v Wade. STATES RIGHTS.

This this this. Some of you should not post about legal issues because you lack all understanding.

I'm the OP of this post and I do not lack understanding. I'm a licensed attorney with a deep interest in privacy law. And my seminar paper in law school was on state coercion/control of women's use of contraception through welfare programs and incentives. "States rights" is a convenient and lazy argument for any federal right one opposes. And here the right they don't agree with is your right to privacy in matters of using contraception to prevent pregnancy.

It's frankly sad and backward that we need/needed the US Supreme Court to articulate this as it should be fundamental and not wrapped up in the culture wars. But here we are. My post title stands: Michigan GOP comes out against right to contraception.

You should be more concerned with the government FORCING women to use birth control. Given the state we are currently in........
There is absolutely no fear of restricting birth control.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh, FFS, OP.

Not one of the candidates said anything about "overturning" the decision. They did agree it was wrongly decided because of STATES RIGHTS. That is what this is all about.
The same as Roe v Wade. STATES RIGHTS.

Don’t waste your time. They won’t listen.

No. They won’t. Because it’s a dumb argument. State Rights means that states have the right to outlaw contraception. Do you think MI should have that right?

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Anonymous wrote:Nice highly edited video. It would have been more helpful to hear *everything* they said - not just the selections that support a ridiculous narrative.

Post it then.

That's the point - the only version is the edited one. Why might that be? Hmm...

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh, FFS, OP.

Not one of the candidates said anything about "overturning" the decision. They did agree it was wrongly decided because of STATES RIGHTS. That is what this is all about.
The same as Roe v Wade. STATES RIGHTS.

This this this. Some of you should not post about legal issues because you lack all understanding.

Lawyer here. It seems like you are saying states have the right to outlaw contraception. Is that what you are saying? Would that be for everyone? Or could people with a medical need take contraception in MI? Like, say, my teenage DD. Not sexually actively but 2 week periods so heavy she was anemic. Could she use contraception in MI? Or does MI have the right to over-rule the FDA, her doctor— and her parents who helped make this decision? If she could take it out of medical need, what happens when she gets married? She can only take it is her husband approves, or the tell the government they will be abstinent? Or???

Because yelling states rights necessarily means the state can choose to say no. Full stop. And before you’d at they would never, let me introduce you to Alabama and the Deep South.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh, FFS, OP.

Not one of the candidates said anything about "overturning" the decision. They did agree it was wrongly decided because of STATES RIGHTS. That is what this is all about.
The same as Roe v Wade. STATES RIGHTS.

This this this. Some of you should not post about legal issues because you lack all understanding.

So states can mandate vaccines and how your children are educated? Nothing in the constitution about that.

DP. I look forward to the answer to this question.

State don’t mandate how your child is educated. Homeschool, public, private, parochial, virtual. Lots of options out there.

Vaccine are a matter of public health. Unless anyone wants a smallpox or polio resurgence. Anyone? It used to be normal to lose one (or more) children before adulthood. States mandate vaccinations to prevent dead kids. That’s a compelling state interest. In fact it’s a compelling interest, full stop, unless you are a psychopath.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh, FFS, OP.

Not one of the candidates said anything about "overturning" the decision. They did agree it was wrongly decided because of STATES RIGHTS. That is what this is all about.
The same as Roe v Wade. STATES RIGHTS.

This this this. Some of you should not post about legal issues because you lack all understanding.

I'm the OP of this post and I do not lack understanding. I'm a licensed attorney with a deep interest in privacy law. And my seminar paper in law school was on state coercion/control of women's use of contraception through welfare programs and incentives. "States rights" is a convenient and lazy argument for any federal right one opposes. And here the right they don't agree with is your right to privacy in matters of using contraception to prevent pregnancy.

It's frankly sad and backward that we need/needed the US Supreme Court to articulate this as it should be fundamental and not wrapped up in the culture wars. But here we are. My post title stands: Michigan GOP comes out against right to contraception.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh, FFS, OP.

Not one of the candidates said anything about "overturning" the decision. They did agree it was wrongly decided because of STATES RIGHTS. That is what this is all about.
The same as Roe v Wade. STATES RIGHTS.

This this this. Some of you should not post about legal issues because you lack all understanding.

The person who brought this to everyone’s attention is the attorney general of Michigan, who does not lack understanding.

Is she running for re-election? I hope she stays in office.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh, FFS, OP.

Not one of the candidates said anything about "overturning" the decision. They did agree it was wrongly decided because of STATES RIGHTS. That is what this is all about.
The same as Roe v Wade. STATES RIGHTS.

This this this. Some of you should not post about legal issues because you lack all understanding.

The person who brought this to everyone’s attention is the attorney general of Michigan, who does not lack understanding.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh, FFS, OP.

Not one of the candidates said anything about "overturning" the decision. They did agree it was wrongly decided because of STATES RIGHTS. That is what this is all about.
The same as Roe v Wade. STATES RIGHTS.

Don’t waste your time. They won’t listen.

The only ones not listening are people like you. Whether you’re a raging forced birther or whether you’re a pro choicer who likes to feel moderate, the GOP is SHOUTING that they hate women. You are actively arguing that birth control should be kicked back to the states? GTFO and go back to the 1800s where you belong.

Anonymous wrote:Oh, FFS, OP.

Not one of the candidates said anything about "overturning" the decision. They did agree it was wrongly decided because of STATES RIGHTS. That is what this is all about.
The same as Roe v Wade. STATES RIGHTS.

Don’t waste your time. They won’t listen.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh, FFS, OP.

Not one of the candidates said anything about "overturning" the decision. They did agree it was wrongly decided because of STATES RIGHTS. That is what this is all about.
The same as Roe v Wade. STATES RIGHTS.

This this this. Some of you should not post about legal issues because you lack all understanding.

So states can mandate vaccines and how your children are educated? Nothing in the constitution about that.

DP. I look forward to the answer to this question.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh, FFS, OP.

Not one of the candidates said anything about "overturning" the decision. They did agree it was wrongly decided because of STATES RIGHTS. That is what this is all about.
The same as Roe v Wade. STATES RIGHTS.

This this this. Some of you should not post about legal issues because you lack all understanding.

So states can mandate vaccines and how your children are educated? Nothing in the constitution about that.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes.

Republican women are idiots.

The whole leopard eating faces party thing comes to mind.

Being a female alt-right thought leader has its downsides.