Anonymous
Post 02/15/2022 23:41     Subject: I want transparency and accountability from UVA
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:and as my mother always said…people in hell want ice water


Thanks for making me laugh! My mom always said this also


Why are you comparing UVA to hell? It is not funny
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2022 23:07     Subject: I want transparency and accountability from UVA
Anonymous wrote:and as my mother always said…people in hell want ice water


Thanks for making me laugh! My mom always said this also
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2022 23:04     Subject: Re:I want transparency and accountability from UVA
It’s the rigor that kills me most. Top 5% at Langley is what a 4.8 and 15 APs? But if you’re in rural western Virginia, a 4.0 and 3 APs will do it? The FCPS curriculum is the same so it seems beneficial to go to the lowest performing high school with the bonus of cheaper housing.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2022 23:04     Subject: I want transparency and accountability from UVA
Anonymous wrote:This is what we foreigners have been saying for years, OP. In the rest of the world, there is a formula, or at least much more of one than here. You have the grades, you get in, is what it essentially boils down to.

Here admissions committees are allowed to be racist, discriminatory, and they openly favor children of alumni, children of billionaire donors, and children with no particular academic strength who happen to be good at sports.

It's disgusting, and yet, the brain-washed American people continue to believe it's a great "holistic" system and they beggar themselves or their children to get in, instead of voting for politicians who might make university low-cost, like in other developed countries.




You have this backward. Kind of completely. Holistic allows in more URMs. A numbers game and the school would be 100% Asian and White. That is the racist system. As for the other things you mention -- if you think kids of the rich and powerful are not getting into European Universities because they tested low or had low grades you are crazy.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2022 23:00     Subject: I want transparency and accountability from UVA
Anonymous wrote:I don’t want Dean J’s cute little videos about their holistic approach and how they want to see this and that from a student. I don’t need dean j at all. For in state admissions I want a formula. Kid took these classes, got these grades, got that SAT, then guaranteed admission to UVA or WM or Vtech or whatever other VA state school, end of story. Otherwise you are not getting my tax dollars.


This is not the way any college selects students. Why would you want that. There is no formula.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2022 22:50     Subject: I want transparency and accountability from UVA
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is what we foreigners have been saying for years, OP. In the rest of the world, there is a formula, or at least much more of one than here. You have the grades, you get in, is what it essentially boils down to.

Here admissions committees are allowed to be racist, discriminatory, and they openly favor children of alumni, children of billionaire donors, and children with no particular academic strength who happen to be good at sports.

It's disgusting, and yet, the brain-washed American people continue to believe it's a great "holistic" system and they beggar themselves or their children to get in, instead of voting for politicians who might make university low-cost, like in other developed countries.




Agree


The difference is the other countries have national curriculum so the GPAs are more comparable. Here, each district is different.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2022 21:53     Subject: I want transparency and accountability from UVA
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:SCHEV has been around since 1956. It makes everything in VA very transparents. If your college counselor hasn't told you about this resource they aren't doing their job. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Council_of_Higher_Education_for_Virginia


Yep. I think the VA schools are pretty clear. UVA pretty much a solid chance as long as you are top 5% in your class. VT is actually more problematic since they seemed to yield protect a lot more last year, although a lot of those kids eventually got offered spots off the waitlist.


Totally agree. UVA is pretty easy to predict. Top 5% in your class, you're in. Top 10% and you ED with strong scores, and everything else, probably in.

VA Tech is way harder to predict. Lots of head scratching.




How would you know if you were top 5% in your class if the school doesn’t do school rank?
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2022 19:39     Subject: Re:I want transparency and accountability from UVA
Anonymous wrote:
Totally agree. UVA is pretty easy to predict. Top 5% in your class, you're in. Top 10% and you ED with strong scores, and everything else, probably in.


Hasn't worked (yet) for my kid, who was deferred after applying EA, is easily in the top 5% of his class with high rigor, has a 35 ACT score, and is completely surrounded by green on the Naviance scattergrams. We'll see what happens when RD comes out in the spring, but his deferral was definitely a headscratcher for me (and him!)


Same happened to my DC (Presidential scholar candidate, NMF,, GPA above their 75% percentile, fabulous EC, blah blah blah) but ultimately got in RD. Some people said it was yield protection, which may be true because DC ended up elsewhere.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2022 19:34     Subject: I want transparency and accountability from UVA
Anonymous wrote:This is what we foreigners have been saying for years, OP. In the rest of the world, there is a formula, or at least much more of one than here. You have the grades, you get in, is what it essentially boils down to.

Here admissions committees are allowed to be racist, discriminatory, and they openly favor children of alumni, children of billionaire donors, and children with no particular academic strength who happen to be good at sports.

It's disgusting, and yet, the brain-washed American people continue to believe it's a great "holistic" system and they beggar themselves or their children to get in, instead of voting for politicians who might make university low-cost, like in other developed countries.




Agree
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2022 19:31     Subject: I want transparency and accountability from UVA
I want a pony.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2022 19:30     Subject: Re:I want transparency and accountability from UVA
Anonymous wrote:So roughly the top 3 percent of 400 got in?


Most of the top 5% got in but not all. DD's best friend who was top 5% was waitlisted or deferred (I forget which) during EA and ended up going somewhere else and withdrew her app. My DD who was top 7% got in but also did ED whereas the others ranked higher than her that did not get in, did not do ED.



Anonymous
Post 02/15/2022 18:50     Subject: I want transparency and accountability from UVA
I understand OP. It's frustrating that you pay a lot in taxes, and your kid can't even go to the state flagship.

And your friends/family in other states ask "Well why don't they just got to UVA?" when you tell them the other school (private, out of state, or other Virginia public university) your kid goes to...
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2022 18:49     Subject: Re:I want transparency and accountability from UVA
Totally agree. UVA is pretty easy to predict. Top 5% in your class, you're in. Top 10% and you ED with strong scores, and everything else, probably in.


Hasn't worked (yet) for my kid, who was deferred after applying EA, is easily in the top 5% of his class with high rigor, has a 35 ACT score, and is completely surrounded by green on the Naviance scattergrams. We'll see what happens when RD comes out in the spring, but his deferral was definitely a headscratcher for me (and him!)
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2022 18:36     Subject: Re:I want transparency and accountability from UVA
So roughly the top 3 percent of 400 got in?
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2022 18:32     Subject: I want transparency and accountability from UVA
+1