Anonymous
02/15/2022 10:07
Subject: Stoicism and Jordan Peterson popularity with young men
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:His opinion should not be allowed.
This is exactly the problem with Leftists. Can't handle differing opinions and so they must be cancelled. Grow up
Imagine being so dumb that you respond to trolls posting the most provocative thing possible. And imagine being even dumber that you try to attribute a political ideology to such trolls.
Wow how do you even look in the mirror, PP?
Anonymous
02/15/2022 10:02
Subject: Stoicism and Jordan Peterson popularity with young men
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know a lot of young guys into stoicism and I’m not a fan. Instead of actually dealing with their feelings, emotions, and problems, they just stuff it down and get worse and worse. From my observations they just further isolate themselves, get more depressed, and start searching for answers in more extreme things like drugs, casual sex, isolation, etc.
I think it would be far better for men to embrace the so-called “feminine” aspects of being human - crying, expressing sadness, talking to people, helping others, listening to others, developing deep and loving relationships with both men and women, expressing love, being vulnerable, seeking connection beyond superficial things like sex or just hanging out with the bros.
Stoicism as practiced by Seneca and Marcus Aurelius doesn’t mean to hold in your feelings. That’s just not it.
This
Anonymous
02/15/2022 10:00
Subject: Stoicism and Jordan Peterson popularity with young men
If you’ve ever watched Peterson being interviewed or participating in a debate then you’d know he’s sharp as a tack and can back up his ideas with facts. He’s a courageous man who hasn’t shoes away from thorny issues and isn’t afraid of resisting the woke bullshit. I don’t necessarily agree with him on all things but he’s a valuable voice in the discussion. And he makes many people on the ideological left uncomfortable because he lays bare their groupthink idiocy.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 09:56
Subject: Stoicism and Jordan Peterson popularity with young men
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:His opinion should not be allowed.
This is exactly the problem with Leftists. Can't handle differing opinions and so they must be cancelled. Grow up
This is a massive problem for the left. If you don’t like what Jordan Peterson says, don’t listen.
Really?
Read this and then tell us if you still agree:
https://humanevents.com/2021/09/28/nearly-25-of-college-students-say-its-acceptable-to-use-violence-to-shut-down-controversial-speakers/
NP. I’m not sure I understand your point with this article. Doesn’t that just confirm what pp said about people on the left not being able to handle hearing opposing viewpoints?
Yes it does.
Cancel-culture is real. And it is a huge problem for our future.
It needs to stop.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 09:46
Subject: Stoicism and Jordan Peterson popularity with young men
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:His opinion should not be allowed.
This is exactly the problem with Leftists. Can't handle differing opinions and so they must be cancelled. Grow up
This is a massive problem for the left. If you don’t like what Jordan Peterson says, don’t listen.
Really?
Read this and then tell us if you still agree:
https://humanevents.com/2021/09/28/nearly-25-of-college-students-say-its-acceptable-to-use-violence-to-shut-down-controversial-speakers/
NP. I’m not sure I understand your point with this article. Doesn’t that just confirm what pp said about people on the left not being able to handle hearing opposing viewpoints?
Right? How is it acceptable to use violence to shut down opposing views? I know there is a movement on the left to broadly ban hate speech because the argument is that words can actually cause physical harm, but that comes directly into collision with the first amendment. All it indicates to me is the left is becoming increasingly intolerant and enraptured with safe spaces and so forth. If you want to see how that whole thing played out, historically, look to countries that had mass purges and genocides. This is America friends. We can say what the fk we want here. Sorry you’re offended.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 09:43
Subject: Re:Stoicism and Jordan Peterson popularity with young men
Anonymous wrote:https://modernstoicism.com/nope-jordan-peterson-aint-no-stoic-by-massimo-pigliucci/
I suspect this informs where OP is coming from
Thanks, PP, this cleared up a few things for me. I used to read a blog by a guy who was writing a book on stoicism and occasionally blogged about the philosophy. It wasn’t at all what I assumed from the modern meaning of the word “stoic,” it sounded much more well-rounded and humane. But then I’ve been confused lately by both the sudden interest and increase in references to stoicism and the way those mentions don’t seem to comport with the small understanding I got a few years ago. This explains a lot.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 09:37
Subject: Stoicism and Jordan Peterson popularity with young men
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:His opinion should not be allowed.
This is exactly the problem with Leftists. Can't handle differing opinions and so they must be cancelled. Grow up
This is a massive problem for the left. If you don’t like what Jordan Peterson says, don’t listen.
Really?
Read this and then tell us if you still agree:
https://humanevents.com/2021/09/28/nearly-25-of-college-students-say-its-acceptable-to-use-violence-to-shut-down-controversial-speakers/
NP. I’m not sure I understand your point with this article. Doesn’t that just confirm what pp said about people on the left not being able to handle hearing opposing viewpoints?
Anonymous
02/15/2022 09:21
Subject: Stoicism and Jordan Peterson popularity with young men
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:His opinion should not be allowed.
This is exactly the problem with Leftists. Can't handle differing opinions and so they must be cancelled. Grow up
This is a massive problem for the left. If you don’t like what Jordan Peterson says, don’t listen.
Really?
Read this and then tell us if you still agree:
https://humanevents.com/2021/09/28/nearly-25-of-college-students-say-its-acceptable-to-use-violence-to-shut-down-controversial-speakers/
Anonymous
02/15/2022 09:21
Subject: Stoicism and Jordan Peterson popularity with young men
Stoicism isn’t a new thing.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 09:15
Subject: Stoicism and Jordan Peterson popularity with young men
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:His opinion should not be allowed.
This is exactly the problem with Leftists. Can't handle differing opinions and so they must be cancelled. Grow up
This is a massive problem for the left. If you don’t like what Jordan Peterson says, don’t listen.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 09:14
Subject: Stoicism and Jordan Peterson popularity with young men
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Raising feminist boys to become feminist men does not begin with letting them listen to anything from Jordan Peterson.
Imagine your main goal in life being to raise a feminist boy lol
Dear God, please let the boys make their own choices or you’ll stifle their true nature. Guide them towards goodness, but please don’t foist your own persona on theirs.
Yeah, I have two boys. People are individuals. I'm raising them to treat individuals fairly, regardless of their gender.
??? What???
You think it’s okay to raise anybody that thinks women are not equal and should not be viewed as equal?
This type of strawman argument is where employing the tools of stoicism would be useful. Where did that poster say women should not be equal? Please don’t respond unless you’re doing so in good faith.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 08:59
Subject: Stoicism and Jordan Peterson popularity with young men
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Raising feminist boys to become feminist men does not begin with letting them listen to anything from Jordan Peterson.
Imagine your main goal in life being to raise a feminist boy lol
Dear God, please let the boys make their own choices or you’ll stifle their true nature. Guide them towards goodness, but please don’t foist your own persona on theirs.
Yeah, I have two boys. People are individuals. I'm raising them to treat individuals fairly, regardless of their gender.
??? What???
You think it’s okay to raise anybody that thinks women are not equal and should not be viewed as equal?
I didn't say anything about equals. Where did that come into it? That's not even a conversation anymore. Of course men and women are equal.
And the other genders too.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 08:42
Subject: Stoicism and Jordan Peterson popularity with young men
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Raising feminist boys to become feminist men does not begin with letting them listen to anything from Jordan Peterson.
Imagine your main goal in life being to raise a feminist boy lol
Dear God, please let the boys make their own choices or you’ll stifle their true nature. Guide them towards goodness, but please don’t foist your own persona on theirs.
Yeah, I have two boys. People are individuals. I'm raising them to treat individuals fairly, regardless of their gender.
??? What???
You think it’s okay to raise anybody that thinks women are not equal and should not be viewed as equal?
I didn't say anything about equals. Where did that come into it? That's not even a conversation anymore. Of course men and women are equal.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 08:41
Subject: Stoicism and Jordan Peterson popularity with young men
Anonymous wrote:His opinion should not be allowed.
This is exactly the problem with Leftists. Can't handle differing opinions and so they must be cancelled. Grow up
Anonymous
02/15/2022 08:39
Subject: Stoicism and Jordan Peterson popularity with young men
Anonymous wrote:Raising feminist boys to become feminist men does not begin with letting them listen to anything from Jordan Peterson.
Listening to Jordan Peterson is a reasonable IQ test.