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Anonymous wrote:Why is VT off the table? No like it?
It would be more difficult to qualify for UVA than VT (even in engineering).

My son wasn't fond of Blacksburg, VA and doesn't want to spend 4 years there. So he did not apply. He was accepted to UVA. He was also accepted to UMD but it costs so much more.

It would be crazy to choose UMD over UVA even if both were oos to you, let alone UVA is in state.
The friend circle of UVA CS graduates that I know of all are working at Google, Amazon, Microsoft and Capital One. They got recruited right on campus by those company recruiters.

Anecdotes aren't very useful in making decisions. You might be saying the exact same thing if you'd gone to Maryland. Both schools have great STEM programs.

UVA is not great in STEM. It’s considerably weaker than the other top public universities.

Virginia Tech engineering graduate from way back. I find this statement amusing. The bottom line is, UVA will provide an excellent STEM education to anyone.

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Anonymous wrote:Not for the cognitive science echols to begin with. The flunkies of Comp Sci who REVERTED to BA, yes.

You mean for an Echols scholar doing CS and Cognitive Science? That's a very small subset of kids (200 kids/yr) who sometimes decline Ivies to go to UVA. If comparing across the entire population, the Cognitive science kids make 55K/59K (Avg/Median), 90K/87K (CS - School of Arts/sciences) and 99K/100K (School of Engineering).

Source: https://career.virginia.edu/UniversityofVirginia-Class-2020

You proved my point. The flunkies skew the starting salaries down. Side tangential note: starting salaries don't include zip code. You should always look at percentile (top 99%) for occupation PLUS zip code to see how well you really did.

Wut? The Arts CS grads got a degree in CS. The "flunkies" are not part of that number. How did my data "prove your point"?

Your geography point doesn't make sense either. We are not comparing across schools, we are comparing WITHIN the same school. Are you suggesting that somehow the CS kids graduating from Arts school have a geographic disadvantage compared to CS kids out of Engineering?!? Bring us the data to back your case (like I did to make mine).

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Anonymous wrote:Not for the cognitive science echols to begin with. The flunkies of Comp Sci who REVERTED to BA, yes.

You mean for an Echols scholar doing CS and Cognitive Science? That's a very small subset of kids (200 kids/yr) who sometimes decline Ivies to go to UVA. If comparing across the entire population, the Cognitive science kids make 55K/59K (Avg/Median), 90K/87K (CS - School of Arts/sciences) and 99K/100K (School of Engineering).

Source: https://career.virginia.edu/UniversityofVirginia-Class-2020

You proved my point. The flunkies skew the starting salaries down. Side tangential note: starting salaries don't include zip code. You should always look at percentile (top 99%) for occupation PLUS zip code to see how well you really did.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is VT out?

The UVA name is much more prestigious and your kid may decide after first year engineering and calculus classes that they want to change their major, as ne of my kids did

Kids are stupid I suppose

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Anonymous wrote:Computer Science is not engineering, OP. It's not an engineering discipline.

Do not listen to this poster. Most colleges put CS under the school of engineering. So yes, it is an engineering discipline.

At UVa, the BACS in the College is a WAY BETTER option than the $h!t for brains dept in the E-school. Yes, most colleges consider Comp Sci as Software Engineering, but if the department is weak, enroll in a better dept and just do all the CS electives, join a coding academy, or do MIT's OCW and find some buddies to practice pair programming, code reviews, team work, etc.

How do you then participate in job fairs companies looking for CS majors participate in?

Show up and hand in your resume with a github portfolio.

This. I have a CS degree from UVa. Never had a problem finding a job. Tech folks are much less hung up on where you went to school and much more hung up on what you actually know and can do. I choose UVa over tech schools because I wanted a diverse school academically & socially and wanted options in case.

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Anonymous wrote:Computer Science is not engineering, OP. It's not an engineering discipline.

Do not listen to this poster. Most colleges put CS under the school of engineering. So yes, it is an engineering discipline.

At UVa, the BACS in the College is a WAY BETTER option than the $h!t for brains dept in the E-school. Yes, most colleges consider Comp Sci as Software Engineering, but if the department is weak, enroll in a better dept and just do all the CS electives, join a coding academy, or do MIT's OCW and find some buddies to practice pair programming, code reviews, team work, etc.

No it's not, at least for CS. The salary outcomes of the BACS kids is inferior to Engr. CS kids, albeit marginally.

Not for the cognitive science echols to begin with. The flunkies of Comp Sci who REVERTED to BA, yes.

You mean for an Echols scholar doing CS and Cognitive Science? That's a very small subset of kids (200 kids/yr) who sometimes decline Ivies to go to UVA. If comparing across the entire population, the Cognitive science kids make 55K/59K (Avg/Median), 90K/87K (CS - School of Arts/sciences) and 99K/100K (School of Engineering).

Source: https://career.virginia.edu/UniversityofVirginia-Class-2020

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Anonymous wrote:Computer Science is not engineering, OP. It's not an engineering discipline.

Do not listen to this poster. Most colleges put CS under the school of engineering. So yes, it is an engineering discipline.

CS has overlap with math in the School of Arts and Sciences (or whatever name it's called at a particular university) and overlap with Computer Engineering in the School of Engineering which is why CS is offered at both schools at several Universities. At UIUC for example, it take less that 5 courses to differentiate yourself as a CS vs CE grad. At Michigan, CS and CE are offered by the same department and so closely aligned that you cannot double major in the two. A lot of non-CS engineers on Reddit end up going into coding after Engineering school because the pay is just better. So a kid with an engineering mindset may chose to do CS in Engineering school and supplement that program with his interests - Computer Engineering, Mechanical, Electrical, etc. Kids who have more of an Arts inclination and don't mind doing languages and other subjects should pursue CS through the Arts & Sciences route. In general though, the CS in Engineering school kids end up with higher starting salaries on average relative to the CS in Arts kids. Check the "Outcomes" info. posted by various schools and you'll see for yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:Computer Science is not engineering, OP. It's not an engineering discipline.

Do not listen to this poster. Most colleges put CS under the school of engineering. So yes, it is an engineering discipline.

At UVa, the BACS in the College is a WAY BETTER option than the $h!t for brains dept in the E-school. Yes, most colleges consider Comp Sci as Software Engineering, but if the department is weak, enroll in a better dept and just do all the CS electives, join a coding academy, or do MIT's OCW and find some buddies to practice pair programming, code reviews, team work, etc.

No it's not, at least for CS. The salary outcomes of the BACS kids is inferior to Engr. CS kids, albeit marginally.

Not for the cognitive science echols to begin with. The flunkies of Comp Sci who REVERTED to BA, yes.

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Anonymous wrote:Computer Science is not engineering, OP. It's not an engineering discipline.

Do not listen to this poster. Most colleges put CS under the school of engineering. So yes, it is an engineering discipline.

At UVa, the BACS in the College is a WAY BETTER option than the $h!t for brains dept in the E-school. Yes, most colleges consider Comp Sci as Software Engineering, but if the department is weak, enroll in a better dept and just do all the CS electives, join a coding academy, or do MIT's OCW and find some buddies to practice pair programming, code reviews, team work, etc.

How do you then participate in job fairs companies looking for CS majors participate in?

Show up and hand in your resume with a github portfolio.

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Anonymous wrote:Computer Science is not engineering, OP. It's not an engineering discipline.

Do not listen to this poster. Most colleges put CS under the school of engineering. So yes, it is an engineering discipline.

At UVa, the BACS in the College is a WAY BETTER option than the $h!t for brains dept in the E-school. Yes, most colleges consider Comp Sci as Software Engineering, but if the department is weak, enroll in a better dept and just do all the CS electives, join a coding academy, or do MIT's OCW and find some buddies to practice pair programming, code reviews, team work, etc.

No it's not, at least for CS. The salary outcomes of the BACS kids is inferior to Engr. CS kids, albeit marginally.

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Anonymous wrote:Computer Science is not engineering, OP. It's not an engineering discipline.

Do not listen to this poster. Most colleges put CS under the school of engineering. So yes, it is an engineering discipline.

At UVa, the BACS in the College is a WAY BETTER option than the $h!t for brains dept in the E-school. Yes, most colleges consider Comp Sci as Software Engineering, but if the department is weak, enroll in a better dept and just do all the CS electives, join a coding academy, or do MIT's OCW and find some buddies to practice pair programming, code reviews, team work, etc.

How do you then participate in job fairs companies looking for CS majors participate in?

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Anonymous wrote:Computer Science is not engineering, OP. It's not an engineering discipline.

Do not listen to this poster. Most colleges put CS under the school of engineering. So yes, it is an engineering discipline.

At UVa, the BACS in the College is a WAY BETTER option than the $h!t for brains dept in the E-school. Yes, most colleges consider Comp Sci as Software Engineering, but if the department is weak, enroll in a better dept and just do all the CS electives, join a coding academy, or do MIT's OCW and find some buddies to practice pair programming, code reviews, team work, etc.

Anonymous wrote:Computer Science is not engineering, OP. It's not an engineering discipline.

Do not listen to this poster. Most colleges put CS under the school of engineering. So yes, it is an engineering discipline.