Anonymous
Post 02/23/2022 22:22     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering
Voters “privilege is showing” because they object to unethical political tactics and gerrymandering?
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2022 20:28     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Creating smaller groups is not what is motivating these unprecedented changes. That’s just spin. Developers want to develop and maximize profit. Wealthy young white collar professionals want convenience at their fingertips in their ten story complexes for a few years before they move off the Connecticut Ave corridor for a better school district and a backyard. But other neighbors a couple blocks off Connecticut or between Wisconsin and Reno will still be here in 30 years contributing to their community. They care as much about what happens in their neighborhood and will be living with it much longer.


So the single family homeowner is more important than the condo or rental resident.

Got it.


In terms of the property taxes that fund all this crap, whaddaya think?

As a human no


Renters and condo owners pay property taxes either directly or indirectly.
They also pay sales tax, income tax and all sort of other taxes.

So....your entitlement is showing again.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2022 11:01     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering
Of course not. And the apartment dwellers are no more important than the single family home owners and renters. We all live in one neighborhood. We care about similar issues -affordable housing, public transportation, traffic, equity and inclusion, the environment, schools, crime, opportunity, reasonable development. You all are spending a lot of time and energy carving our neighborhoods in two because you don't like opinions of some single family home owners - anyone who has what you assume to be a different opinion from your own or who you think will get in the way of developers as they build up the main arteries and side streets in Ward 3.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2022 10:56     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Creating smaller groups is not what is motivating these unprecedented changes. That’s just spin. Developers want to develop and maximize profit. Wealthy young white collar professionals want convenience at their fingertips in their ten story complexes for a few years before they move off the Connecticut Ave corridor for a better school district and a backyard. But other neighbors a couple blocks off Connecticut or between Wisconsin and Reno will still be here in 30 years contributing to their community. They care as much about what happens in their neighborhood and will be living with it much longer.


So the single family homeowner is more important than the condo or rental resident.

Got it.


In terms of the property taxes that fund all this crap, whaddaya think?

As a human no
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2022 10:45     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s blatant gerrymandering to cut out the voices- voters and ANC reps - who are interested in more reasonable growth in Cleveland Park. Members of the Task Force have not been shy about sharing their pro-development agendas and undermining historic preservation in Cleveland Park for years. People whose views differ volunteered for the Task Force and were rejected. The folks behind the gerrymandering don’t like the opinions held by many of the voters who live in homes between Wisconsin and Connecticut so their solution is to cut half of them out of having any say about what happens in Cleveland Park below Reno Toad/34th St. It doesn’t seem to bother the Task Force members that citizens being cut out send their kids to the public school on 34th St and will no longer have an ANC rep who has a vote over what happens at the school, or the traffic surrounding the school. (The Task Force member who lives in Cleveland Park sends his kids to private school). The Cleveland Park citizens being cut out rely on the fire station and Metro on Connecticut Ave and frequent the stores and restaurants in Connecticut Ave. The Task Force is severing a long established and cohesive neighborhood for their own selfish political agenda. Sheer stupidity.


From what I’ve seen the “voices who are interested in more reasonable growth in Cleveland Park” will make it so that there aren’t any more stores and restaurants on Connecticut Avenue to frequent, if they haven’t already.


I sympathize to some extent with the argument that the division doesn't make sense. As a CP resident just west of Reno/34th, I do not relish the thought of having to pay attention to/attend two sets of ANC meetings to know what's going on in the neighborhood. I do care about what's happening two blocks away from me on the other side of 34th, and I care about the commercial corridor on Connecticut that I walk to frequently. That said, if Cleveland Park hadn't been such a PIA about every little detail of the Cathedral Commons development, maybe there wouldn't be so much ill will and backlash. Those buildings sat vacant for years! while the neighborhood fought and fought. And guess what, Cathedral Commons in pretty nice, with more than adequate parking. I'll bet those same folks are now eating at all those nice restaurants regularly and find themselves in that spacious Giant garage a couple of times a week.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2022 10:30     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering
Anonymous wrote:Creating smaller groups is not what is motivating these unprecedented changes. That’s just spin. Developers want to develop and maximize profit. Wealthy young white collar professionals want convenience at their fingertips in their ten story complexes for a few years before they move off the Connecticut Ave corridor for a better school district and a backyard. But other neighbors a couple blocks off Connecticut or between Wisconsin and Reno will still be here in 30 years contributing to their community. They care as much about what happens in their neighborhood and will be living with it much longer.


So the single family homeowner is more important than the condo or rental resident.

Got it.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2022 10:11     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering
Creating smaller groups is not what is motivating these unprecedented changes. That’s just spin. Developers want to develop and maximize profit. Wealthy young white collar professionals want convenience at their fingertips in their ten story complexes for a few years before they move off the Connecticut Ave corridor for a better school district and a backyard. But other neighbors a couple blocks off Connecticut or between Wisconsin and Reno will still be here in 30 years contributing to their community. They care as much about what happens in their neighborhood and will be living with it much longer.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2022 08:23     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Gerrymandering means manipulating the boundaries of an electoral constituency to favor one group. Exactly what’s happening here.


What group is getting favored?

Seems to me having smaller areas with more oversight is a good result.


People who disagree with the OP.

Anonymous
Post 02/22/2022 23:09     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering
Anonymous wrote:Gerrymandering means manipulating the boundaries of an electoral constituency to favor one group. Exactly what’s happening here.


What group is getting favored?

Seems to me having smaller areas with more oversight is a good result.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2022 22:35     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering
Gerrymandering means manipulating the boundaries of an electoral constituency to favor one group. Exactly what’s happening here.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2022 19:46     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering
"Gerrymandering" doesn't mean drawing a line where someone doesn't like
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2022 18:28     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering
Where did OP say that? OP commented on Trump-like tactics, gerrymandering, and the background of one of the redistricting task force members:

“One even has a professional background working for anti-democratic candidates, as a GOP operative who worked with Paul Manafort in Ukraine to help a Putin ally stage a comeback to Ukraine's presidency and as a founder and business partner in Trump's national polling firm. At a time when the Trump wing of the GOP is using extreme tactics to shape elections in 2022 and 2022, why is Cheh allowing a small group to apply GOP gerrymandering to reshape our local ANC districts? The agenda seems clear: to be elect more ANC commissioners who will support an agenda for tall and dense development in Ward 3 and to squeeze out commissioners who want more balanced growth.”
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2022 15:37     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering
OP may be onto something.

OP, come back and walk me through how Trump is influencing elections through DC ANCs. I need to know more.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2022 14:45     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering
Seems like a majority of the ANC Commissioners are new, inexperienced, and in the Smart Growth camp, no? Or maybe it’s just the most vocal ones. Have not been impressed.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2022 14:39     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering
Lol. If the ANC representation was really worth so little we wouldn’t be seeing the Smart Growth tools battling so hard to control the ANC representation and now carve up the neighborhood. Turns out they gaslight too.