Anonymous
05/08/2022 16:54
Subject: APS Gifted Referral Parent Input
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s nonsense. They use the scores. You can’t lobby for your kid to be gifted. It’s very frustrating to the gifted administrators because that’s exactly what many parents do. Buy the scores are the scores.
Actually, you can lobby for it. Parents can initiate the process. But that isn’t what OP is asking. OP, I don’t know how much they look at the parental input, but probably not much? I would write something, though.
ASFS is famous for letting kids in if their parents lobby hard
Anonymous
05/07/2022 11:36
Subject: APS Gifted Referral Parent Input
Anonymous wrote:Where are the COGAT scores posted anyway? I looked in Parentvue but did not see them.
I think I found them under documents in parentvue.
Anonymous
05/06/2022 17:30
Subject: APS Gifted Referral Parent Input
Where are the COGAT scores posted anyway? I looked in Parentvue but did not see them.
Anonymous
05/06/2022 10:29
Subject: APS Gifted Referral Parent Input
Anonymous wrote:My daughter's elementary school still does pull outs with the gifted teacher. My daughter wasn't identified as gifted in 2nd, but is included in the pull out. She is advanced and appreciates the extra challenge. I think it's roughly every other week during math.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:APS is pretty much cogat score.
We have a super high gifted student and their younger sibling aps put in the program at 3rd grade. I guess they assumed they would follow the older child. Until our youngest took cogat; and scores were average. Aps dropped them like a mask at a Trump rally.
They are still kind of bothered by being out of the program- but I could write a letter everyday to aps and it would not make a difference; nor should it IMO.
So, they put the kid in gifted them took them out? Was this recent? I was told once you’re in, you’re in.
Yes: they were officially removed and our child knew it as they were no longer pulled out with other kids.
Which school in APS still does pull out for gifted?
Same with our school. Seems to be weekly pullouts for math and every other week for… language arts, I guess. I know at least some of the kids aren’t officially “gifted” yet. In fact, I doubt they identified many kids during the virtual year, so probably most are just now being identified.
Anonymous
05/06/2022 09:57
Subject: APS Gifted Referral Parent Input
Anonymous wrote:My daughter's elementary school still does pull outs with the gifted teacher. My daughter wasn't identified as gifted in 2nd, but is included in the pull out. She is advanced and appreciates the extra challenge. I think it's roughly every other week during math.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:APS is pretty much cogat score.
We have a super high gifted student and their younger sibling aps put in the program at 3rd grade. I guess they assumed they would follow the older child. Until our youngest took cogat; and scores were average. Aps dropped them like a mask at a Trump rally.
They are still kind of bothered by being out of the program- but I could write a letter everyday to aps and it would not make a difference; nor should it IMO.
So, they put the kid in gifted them took them out? Was this recent? I was told once you’re in, you’re in.
Yes: they were officially removed and our child knew it as they were no longer pulled out with other kids.
Which school in APS still does pull out for gifted?
My kid would have really appreciated this. As far as I can tell, the gifted designation has been the equivalent of a pat on the head at our school.
Anonymous
05/06/2022 09:29
Subject: APS Gifted Referral Parent Input
My daughter's elementary school still does pull outs with the gifted teacher. My daughter wasn't identified as gifted in 2nd, but is included in the pull out. She is advanced and appreciates the extra challenge. I think it's roughly every other week during math.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:APS is pretty much cogat score.
We have a super high gifted student and their younger sibling aps put in the program at 3rd grade. I guess they assumed they would follow the older child. Until our youngest took cogat; and scores were average. Aps dropped them like a mask at a Trump rally.
They are still kind of bothered by being out of the program- but I could write a letter everyday to aps and it would not make a difference; nor should it IMO.
So, they put the kid in gifted them took them out? Was this recent? I was told once you’re in, you’re in.
Yes: they were officially removed and our child knew it as they were no longer pulled out with other kids.
Which school in APS still does pull out for gifted?
Anonymous
05/05/2022 10:43
Subject: APS Gifted Referral Parent Input
We haven’t heard anything back either, but with my older child, we didn’t get that confirmation until June, just before school ended.
Anonymous
05/05/2022 09:23
Subject: APS Gifted Referral Parent Input
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:APS is pretty much cogat score.
We have a super high gifted student and their younger sibling aps put in the program at 3rd grade. I guess they assumed they would follow the older child. Until our youngest took cogat; and scores were average. Aps dropped them like a mask at a Trump rally.
They are still kind of bothered by being out of the program- but I could write a letter everyday to aps and it would not make a difference; nor should it IMO.
So, they put the kid in gifted them took them out? Was this recent? I was told once you’re in, you’re in.
Yes, once you’re in you’re in, all the way through. It doesn’t mean anything in high school, though- there is a range of differentiated classes to choose from, for anyone.
Anonymous
05/05/2022 09:18
Subject: APS Gifted Referral Parent Input
Anonymous wrote:Has anyone heard back about the program for next school year? We submitted the parent input requested by our elementary and the reply said we would hear in 90 days. I don’t want to bug anyone at the school. My husband thinks we should check in and I think we should just wait.
Every school and timeline will be different, but we got that final confirmation letter at the very end of school a few years ago- the last week, or maybe even the last day.
Anonymous
05/05/2022 08:27
Subject: Re:APS Gifted Referral Parent Input
We got the notice that my kid was referred in mid-Jan and we would hear in 90 days but haven't heard anything. I'm wondering now if it's 90 business days (which wouldn't be until June with spring break and all of the religious holidays).
Anonymous
05/04/2022 23:04
Subject: APS Gifted Referral Parent Input
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:APS is pretty much cogat score.
We have a super high gifted student and their younger sibling aps put in the program at 3rd grade. I guess they assumed they would follow the older child. Until our youngest took cogat; and scores were average. Aps dropped them like a mask at a Trump rally.
They are still kind of bothered by being out of the program- but I could write a letter everyday to aps and it would not make a difference; nor should it IMO.
So, they put the kid in gifted them took them out? Was this recent? I was told once you’re in, you’re in.
Yes: they were officially removed and our child knew it as they were no longer pulled out with other kids.
Which school in APS still does pull out for gifted?
Does your student know the RTG?
Anonymous
05/04/2022 14:40
Subject: APS Gifted Referral Parent Input
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:APS is pretty much cogat score.
We have a super high gifted student and their younger sibling aps put in the program at 3rd grade. I guess they assumed they would follow the older child. Until our youngest took cogat; and scores were average. Aps dropped them like a mask at a Trump rally.
They are still kind of bothered by being out of the program- but I could write a letter everyday to aps and it would not make a difference; nor should it IMO.
So, they put the kid in gifted them took them out? Was this recent? I was told once you’re in, you’re in.
Yes: they were officially removed and our child knew it as they were no longer pulled out with other kids.
Which school in APS still does pull out for gifted?
Anonymous
05/04/2022 14:26
Subject: APS Gifted Referral Parent Input
Has anyone heard back about the program for next school year? We submitted the parent input requested by our elementary and the reply said we would hear in 90 days. I don’t want to bug anyone at the school. My husband thinks we should check in and I think we should just wait.
Anonymous
02/06/2022 22:28
Subject: Re:APS Gifted Referral Parent Input
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My son received his letter the summer after kindergarten. In the referral letter, I provided brief input - such as his PAL scores. I knew the teacher was also going to refer him. It's funny - now that my son is in 5th grade in Fairfax's AAP program, I have no idea how they truly assess 5 year old kids.
They can't. Tracking kids prior to a minimum of 3rd grade is idiotic. Kids in play-based preschools often end up surpassing standards down the road. BUT--kids that were in Kumon preschool and doing worksheets and memorizing facts appear to be 'gifted' MERELY because there were introduced to material earlier.
That is exactly what the principal said when we went on a kindergarten tour in Arlington and a parent asked. She said it is difficult to differentiate between a kid who is precocious and smart from a well resourced home vs. a kid who is gifted and needs extra support. Giftedness is not just doing things ahead of grade level or “not being bored”.
I don't understand this. If a kid is advanced, does it really matter if it's because they're "truly gifted" or just precious and smart? From everything I've seen, in APS and most other areas, the gifted program is just another form of differentiation, not some kind of special curriculum for kids who have fancy brains. And it's not like kids who are "just" precocious don't need coursework advanced enough to not be bored.
Because it evens out and truly gifted kids blow by early identified not truly gifted.
There are also numerous studies that play based preschool ultimately creates more intelligent kids but those gains aren’t seen until post 3rd grade because they start K not prepped and memorized.
This. Our child was not identified until cogat and then testing on some math inventory at 6th grade level while in 3rd grade.
APS put him in gifted, that was a waste as it was no challenge where most in the program were just redshirted kids.
We pulled out of aps after 5th grade, and our child is in 6th grade now doing trigonometry in private.
Anonymous
02/06/2022 22:18
Subject: APS Gifted Referral Parent Input
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:APS is pretty much cogat score.
We have a super high gifted student and their younger sibling aps put in the program at 3rd grade. I guess they assumed they would follow the older child. Until our youngest took cogat; and scores were average. Aps dropped them like a mask at a Trump rally.
They are still kind of bothered by being out of the program- but I could write a letter everyday to aps and it would not make a difference; nor should it IMO.
So, they put the kid in gifted them took them out? Was this recent? I was told once you’re in, you’re in.
Yes: they were officially removed and our child knew it as they were no longer pulled out with other kids.