Anonymous wrote:This is Northern Virginia! We must have perfection in everything we do. And if little Johnny or Suzzie can't do it themselves, I fully expect you as the parent to do the project or homework for them! Therefore, if you kid is getting 2's they must be flawed in some way.
Stupid is as stupid does!

Seriously. This is elementary school we are talking about. Relax!

This is such a weird perspective--2s mean they need support--so you get support. It has nothing to do with flaws. Why even have an education in the first place if you don't care about providing appropriate support for learning? The skill gap that a 2 in elementary school tells you is easily supported, if you wait for middle school they may have years of struggling to make up.

Anonymous wrote:This is Northern Virginia! We must have perfection in everything we do. And if little Johnny or Suzzie can't do it themselves, I fully expect you as the parent to do the project or homework for them! Therefore, if you kid is getting 2's they must be flawed in some way.
Stupid is as stupid does!

Seriously. This is elementary school we are talking about. Relax!

A 2 indicates that a child is struggling and needs support. It is not about expecting perfection but helping your kid learn foundational material. Some kids might be able to make up missed material in the next grade but many kids can't. A 2 in any subject in first grade means that the child did not understand or learn the material. Since schools don't hold kids back, that child will be sent to second grade having not learned the foundational material in first grade. What do you think is going to happen in second grade? Some kids will be able to make up that gap but many kids won't. And that 2 stays a 2 in that skill or maybe becomes a 1.

By supporting your kid in first grade, you help them develop their foundational skills. You also decrease the likelihood that your child will feel lesser because they are struggling. Helping your child maintain their confidence in school helps your child when they face material that is challenging.

No one is saying "Hire tutors because your kid has a 3 or you don't trust that 4." People are encouraging a parent whose kid has 2s in school to talk to the Teacher and try and figure out what is happening so that the child has a chance to improve their skills.

If you want to wait to HS to deal with C's and D's then more power to you. I would prefer to intervene earlier and help my kid in ES so MS and HS are less likely to be problematic.

This is Northern Virginia! We must have perfection in everything we do. And if little Johnny or Suzzie can't do it themselves, I fully expect you as the parent to do the project or homework for them! Therefore, if you kid is getting 2's they must be flawed in some way.
Stupid is as stupid does!

Seriously. This is elementary school we are talking about. Relax!

If your child has a 2 in anything, its time to request a conference. If it’s a behavioral issue, support your child’s teacher to correct the problem. If it’s a core subject, you may want to hire a tutor to get your child on track so they don’t fall behind. But you won’t know until you talk to your child’s teacher.

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Anonymous wrote:^my other child is in elementary now and always gets 2s in foreign language. They have to take it at her school and she doesn’t like it. Don’t worry over 2s.

I would be a little worried if in math or reading. The kids I give 2s to are not doing well. -ES Teacher

Yes, also, it's a little different this year as kids are trying to catch up after distance learning last year. My 3rd grader typically gets 3s and 4s but has gotten 2 2's (both in writing) this year for the first time and it's because she basically did no writing in 2nd grade after learning about Google's dictation service and doing all of her writing online. She's got a LOT of catching up to do in writing. Her teacher flagged in Q1 and we got a tutor. A 2 should definitely warrant at least an email to the teacher.

Teachers do keep in mind distance learning from last year. Not all kids are behind or getting 2s.

Why didn't you help her with her writing so she wouldn't fall behind?

I think a lot of parents don't realize how badly schools have slipped, and how, even more, things were falling apart while online education was prevalent. And it's not like the schools were willing to admit to parents that online was kind of sucky and that the parents should be spending a lot more time on their kids education, calling in tutors, etc. There was a lot of rah-rah instead. Grades were coming back OK, you're busy, you trust the system. Whoops!

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Anonymous wrote:My son got a handful of 2s in life and citizenship K-4th and he does NOT have ADHD. He just has "self-control" issues when there are friends available. Now as a 12 year old, he has grown out of that. Not every kid who is chatty or needs to move has ADHD.

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Same for my son, he gets super excited if his good friends end up in his class.

My son got spotty 2s in a few of the categories and it was this. My daughter got a few consistent 2s in key citizenship areas and it was ADHD. If the 2 ever changes to a 3 or a 4 over the year it's likely minor behavioral stuff. If the organization/uses time constructively ones are stuck at a 2 over the full year (esp. for more than a year) it's likely a signal to check for ADHD. Of course the teacher isn't insisting that it's ADHD, but they see 30 different kids year after year and they get a feeling for who might need to be screened and they can signal to parents. As a parent I didn't really see much difference between my daughter and my son, but now after treatment for DD it's worlds of difference.

That's fair. I'm the first poster in this chain and my son always got 3s or 4s in the "organization" and "uses time constructively" cateogories. His 2s were in the self-control, follows directions, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:My son got a handful of 2s in life and citizenship K-4th and he does NOT have ADHD. He just has "self-control" issues when there are friends available. Now as a 12 year old, he has grown out of that. Not every kid who is chatty or needs to move has ADHD.

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Same for my son, he gets super excited if his good friends end up in his class.

My son got spotty 2s in a few of the categories and it was this. My daughter got a few consistent 2s in key citizenship areas and it was ADHD. If the 2 ever changes to a 3 or a 4 over the year it's likely minor behavioral stuff. If the organization/uses time constructively ones are stuck at a 2 over the full year (esp. for more than a year) it's likely a signal to check for ADHD. Of course the teacher isn't insisting that it's ADHD, but they see 30 different kids year after year and they get a feeling for who might need to be screened and they can signal to parents. As a parent I didn't really see much difference between my daughter and my son, but now after treatment for DD it's worlds of difference.

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Anonymous wrote:^my other child is in elementary now and always gets 2s in foreign language. They have to take it at her school and she doesn’t like it. Don’t worry over 2s.

I would be a little worried if in math or reading. The kids I give 2s to are not doing well. -ES Teacher

Yes, also, it's a little different this year as kids are trying to catch up after distance learning last year. My 3rd grader typically gets 3s and 4s but has gotten 2 2's (both in writing) this year for the first time and it's because she basically did no writing in 2nd grade after learning about Google's dictation service and doing all of her writing online. She's got a LOT of catching up to do in writing. Her teacher flagged in Q1 and we got a tutor. A 2 should definitely warrant at least an email to the teacher.

Teachers do keep in mind distance learning from last year. Not all kids are behind or getting 2s.

Why didn't you help her with her writing so she wouldn't fall behind?

Strange. I would have told her no.

I think the gist of all of this is 2s in life, citizenship, etc means your kid probably just has some behavioral issues; however a 2 in a core subject like reading or math is something to be concerned about and talk to the school or get tutoring.

My child got a 2 in one reading thing and one math thing, she had low iReady and VGA scores, the school doesn't give a shit because there are other kids that are lower than her, so we are working with tutors to get her up to grade level.

Anonymous wrote:My son got a handful of 2s in life and citizenship K-4th and he does NOT have ADHD. He just has "self-control" issues when there are friends available. Now as a 12 year old, he has grown out of that. Not every kid who is chatty or needs to move has ADHD.

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Same for my son, he gets super excited if his good friends end up in his class.

My son got a handful of 2s in life and citizenship K-4th and he does NOT have ADHD. He just has "self-control" issues when there are friends available. Now as a 12 year old, he has grown out of that. Not every kid who is chatty or needs to move has ADHD.

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Anonymous wrote:^my other child is in elementary now and always gets 2s in foreign language. They have to take it at her school and she doesn’t like it. Don’t worry over 2s.

I would be a little worried if in math or reading. The kids I give 2s to are not doing well. -ES Teacher

It’s Chinese. My child will never take it again after 6th grade so I don’t worry at all about the 2s. I wish we could opt out but all must take it at our elementary school. None of my kids enjoyed it.

Anonymous wrote:Getting 2s on behavior was how my DS teacher conveyed he had ADHD. He was basically getting in trouble every day but only informing us of issues every 3 weeks or so.

Yep (ES Teacher)

Getting 2s on behavior was how my DS teacher conveyed he had ADHD. He was basically getting in trouble every day but only informing us of issues every 3 weeks or so.

2’s can also indicate the child is distracted in class. In Kindergarten my DC got all 2’s in citizenship skill. Her best friend was in her class and all she wanted to do to talk and okay with her in class. That friend didn’t come on her class on 1st and 2nd grade and since then my DC has been consistently getting 4’s with 1 or 2 3’s in citizenship.
I would check to see what’s my child’s distraction, so that you can plan accordingly for the next grade. You want your child to improve, teachers shouldn’t be looking at your child as a troublemaker.