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Anonymous wrote:I remember hearing Harvard admissions people saying the single biggest thing you can do to help your kid get into Harvard is to move to Alabama. I'm sure that is true. The court case about Harvard admissions that isn't going to the supreme court has revealed how much geographic diversity helps (interestingly it helps more or less depending on race - Asian applicants get fewer geographic diversity points because Harvard says they aren't "really" from there - but that is another topic).

Geographic diversity helps a lot but it isn't a slam dunk. My friend does alumni interviewing in a rural state and she is surprised about the kids she interviews who seem impressive and don't get in.

As an Asian person born and raised in an underrepresented state (and raising my kids in a different underrepresented state), I know this is true, and it makes me angry, and I hope this lawsuit finally does something about it. Of course, my multiracial kids won't be checking the Asian box, but-- how many generations do we have to live here to be considered Real Americans?

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Anonymous wrote:I remember hearing Harvard admissions people saying the single biggest thing you can do to help your kid get into Harvard is to move to Alabama. I'm sure that is true. The court case about Harvard admissions that isn't going to the supreme court has revealed how much geographic diversity helps (interestingly it helps more or less depending on race - Asian applicants get fewer geographic diversity points because Harvard says they aren't "really" from there - but that is another topic).

Geographic diversity helps a lot but it isn't a slam dunk. My friend does alumni interviewing in a rural state and she is surprised about the kids she interviews who seem impressive and don't get in.

That’s crazy. Larlo Smith who moved to Huntsville 3 years ago because his dad is a scientist isn’t “from there” either.

Anonymous wrote:I remember hearing Harvard admissions people saying the single biggest thing you can do to help your kid get into Harvard is to move to Alabama. I'm sure that is true. The court case about Harvard admissions that isn't going to the supreme court has revealed how much geographic diversity helps (interestingly it helps more or less depending on race - Asian applicants get fewer geographic diversity points because Harvard says they aren't "really" from there - but that is another topic).

Geographic diversity helps a lot but it isn't a slam dunk. My friend does alumni interviewing in a rural state and she is surprised about the kids she interviews who seem impressive and don't get in.

Anonymous wrote:I remember hearing Harvard admissions people saying the single biggest thing you can do to help your kid get into Harvard is to move to Alabama. I'm sure that is true. The court case about Harvard admissions that isn't going to the supreme court has revealed how much geographic diversity helps (interestingly it helps more or less depending on race - Asian applicants get fewer geographic diversity points because Harvard says they aren't "really" from there - but that is another topic).

Geographic diversity helps a lot but it isn't a slam dunk. My friend does alumni interviewing in a rural state and she is surprised about the kids she interviews who seem impressive and don't get in.

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Anonymous wrote:what state is middle of no where rural America? From what I gather it seems to be more about state than "middle of no where." Colleges love to be able to say stuff like "we have students from all 50 states and 200 countries"...if it's middle of no where Ohio or Illinois or Minnesota (among others) I would say no because those states have large metro areas that will produce a lot of well-qualified competitive applicants from good publics or private schools so colleges have their pick of a large group of who they want to admit from that state. now, if we're talking Wyoming or North Dakota...those states have much lower population and not really that many competitive high schools/kids gunning for competitive colleges so there would be fewer applicants so more likely to be admitted to get that geographic diversity.

Rural southern Utah - city of 80k but hours from anywhere else. My sister is a physician and her husband a surgeon, so they are not under privileged by any means.

St. George isn't rural

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Anonymous wrote:what state is middle of no where rural America? From what I gather it seems to be more about state than "middle of no where." Colleges love to be able to say stuff like "we have students from all 50 states and 200 countries"...if it's middle of no where Ohio or Illinois or Minnesota (among others) I would say no because those states have large metro areas that will produce a lot of well-qualified competitive applicants from good publics or private schools so colleges have their pick of a large group of who they want to admit from that state. now, if we're talking Wyoming or North Dakota...those states have much lower population and not really that many competitive high schools/kids gunning for competitive colleges so there would be fewer applicants so more likely to be admitted to get that geographic diversity.

Rural southern Utah - city of 80k but hours from anywhere else. My sister is a physician and her husband a surgeon, so they are not under privileged by any means.

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Anonymous wrote:You sound jealous, OP.

Yes, I am. My nephew for example is the oldest and with his stats, really similar to my kid, I think he is in the top few kids at his school. It also just seems easier for him in terms of stress and competition versus the close in dmv schools. It also is just so different culturally… where most kids in my child’s peer group are wanting to go to these top most selective schools my nephews peer group is mostly aspiring to go to Ute, byu, Arizona or maybe one of the uc schools.

So? I bet your nephews friends are great kids who will all do well in life. Does that annoy you too?

Different poster - WTF is wrong with you? OP is reasonably concerned realizing her kids are facing an unfair disadvantage. I have come to some of the same realization over the past year - that we may not have done our HS kids any favors locating in this area. There are probably mean, taunting people like you in other areas but somehow these large, hypercompetitive areas also seem to really aggravate and inflame jerks like you.

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Anonymous wrote:You sound jealous, OP.

Yes, I am. My nephew for example is the oldest and with his stats, really similar to my kid, I think he is in the top few kids at his school. It also just seems easier for him in terms of stress and competition versus the close in dmv schools. It also is just so different culturally… where most kids in my child’s peer group are wanting to go to these top most selective schools my nephews peer group is mostly aspiring to go to Ute, byu, Arizona or maybe one of the uc schools.