Anonymous
Post 01/29/2022 11:50     Subject: Are seed oils the worst culprit in our processed food addiction?
I read somewhere else on this site that seed oils change your DNA and also cause glaucoma. Is that true?
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2022 11:39     Subject: Are seed oils the worst culprit in our processed food addiction?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I found a video by a woman now living in Germany. Her eating habits have not changed since moving, still eating processed foods like sugar cereal and hot pockets, yet she lost 15 pounds.

She contributes it to the lack of additives and chemicals in their food compared to US food. She posted the box nutrition info for a sugar cereal found there and the US and the ingredients there was very short compared to the huge list on the US box.


I'm European, I went home last summer and the regular bread at the supermarket has a much shorter list of ingredients, with no gums, fillers, modified starches etc. Also milka has only natural ingredients, in US it has artificial ones.


I am German and recently spent several months back in my home country. Germans have an infinite selection of processed foods in their supermarkets, and the number of products that contain MSG is huge. I'm agnostic on how harmful MSG really is, but I was surprised to see it being used that widely, when here it seems widely maligned. I did not get the impression that Germans are particularly opposed to processed convenience foods and additives.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2022 11:06     Subject: Are seed oils the worst culprit in our processed food addiction?
Just about everything in the grocery stores that isn’t fresh fruits and vegetables, is loaded with this crap.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2022 10:16     Subject: Re:Are seed oils the worst culprit in our processed food addiction?
Anonymous wrote:The oils we use are safflower, olive oil, avocado oil. Are any of these the "bad" ones? I guess I'm mainly not sure about safflower oil, but it is affordable and has a high heat point. Olive oil can't be used in the same way.


I like safflower oil. It’s not genetically modified unlike canola. It’s been used in Europe too for a long time. I use it for frying too or when I don’t want to use olive oil.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2022 10:09     Subject: Re:Are seed oils the worst culprit in our processed food addiction?
The oils we use are safflower, olive oil, avocado oil. Are any of these the "bad" ones? I guess I'm mainly not sure about safflower oil, but it is affordable and has a high heat point. Olive oil can't be used in the same way.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2022 09:46     Subject: Are seed oils the worst culprit in our processed food addiction?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I found a video by a woman now living in Germany. Her eating habits have not changed since moving, still eating processed foods like sugar cereal and hot pockets, yet she lost 15 pounds.

She contributes it to the lack of additives and chemicals in their food compared to US food. She posted the box nutrition info for a sugar cereal found there and the US and the ingredients there was very short compared to the huge list on the US box.


I am more inclined to agree with her than this oils theory.

Though I've long believed based on the experiences of my large extended family that one of the key factors in obesity and obesity-related health problems is stress and trauma. There has been some research around this but it doesn't get talked about because it's much harder to address than identifying a few ingredients in foot that you can simply avoid. The research on stress and trauma is like "If you experienced a certain number of childhood traumas, you need years of therapy and anti-depressants and you might successfully avoid getting heart disease and diabetes."

It's much easier to say 'the problem is canola oil."


Stress is not the reason why there’s an obesity epidemic in America. That’s silly. It’s food. The crap we eat. Are Haitians obese? They have more stress and trauma than anyone.

Exactly.
YouTube “Tucker Goodrich” for some excellent research about how the seed oils are the most egregious substance driving us into chronic diseases of all kinds. We need to learn about this...
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2022 09:41     Subject: Are seed oils the worst culprit in our processed food addiction?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I found a video by a woman now living in Germany. Her eating habits have not changed since moving, still eating processed foods like sugar cereal and hot pockets, yet she lost 15 pounds.

She contributes it to the lack of additives and chemicals in their food compared to US food. She posted the box nutrition info for a sugar cereal found there and the US and the ingredients there was very short compared to the huge list on the US box.


I am more inclined to agree with her than this oils theory.

Though I've long believed based on the experiences of my large extended family that one of the key factors in obesity and obesity-related health problems is stress and trauma. There has been some research around this but it doesn't get talked about because it's much harder to address than identifying a few ingredients in foot that you can simply avoid. The research on stress and trauma is like "If you experienced a certain number of childhood traumas, you need years of therapy and anti-depressants and you might successfully avoid getting heart disease and diabetes."

It's much easier to say 'the problem is canola oil."


Stress is not the reason why there’s an obesity epidemic in America. That’s silly. It’s food. The crap we eat. Are Haitians obese? They have more stress and trauma than anyone.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2022 09:37     Subject: Re:Are seed oils the worst culprit in our processed food addiction?
I think the trauma factor needs to be explored for sure. But my one question is—How do you explain Europe? Pretty high levels of trauma there due WWII and aftermath.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2022 09:34     Subject: Are seed oils the worst culprit in our processed food addiction?
Anonymous wrote:I found a video by a woman now living in Germany. Her eating habits have not changed since moving, still eating processed foods like sugar cereal and hot pockets, yet she lost 15 pounds.

She contributes it to the lack of additives and chemicals in their food compared to US food. She posted the box nutrition info for a sugar cereal found there and the US and the ingredients there was very short compared to the huge list on the US box.


I am more inclined to agree with her than this oils theory.

Though I've long believed based on the experiences of my large extended family that one of the key factors in obesity and obesity-related health problems is stress and trauma. There has been some research around this but it doesn't get talked about because it's much harder to address than identifying a few ingredients in foot that you can simply avoid. The research on stress and trauma is like "If you experienced a certain number of childhood traumas, you need years of therapy and anti-depressants and you might successfully avoid getting heart disease and diabetes."

It's much easier to say 'the problem is canola oil."
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2022 09:28     Subject: Re:Are seed oils the worst culprit in our processed food addiction?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Had no idea.

I thought canola oil was good for us. We were told it was the healthy oil the way we're now being told olive oil is healthy.


Olive oil has been used since 3500 BC so they've always known it's safe. But it's $$$. The modern oils are an invention of the mechanization in agriculture. You cannot naturally squeeze oil out of canola. It's a modern absurdity.


Canola oil is a big scam. Highly processed and genetically modified to optimize profit. I don’t touch soy or corn oil either. If those “vegetable” oil are so much healthier how come the US has such disproportionate rates of heart disease compared with other countries where people use olive oil very liberally including for frying (Spain), or other oils such as sunflower, rapeseed, safflower, even ghee, palm or coconut oil. Additionally, in the US few people make their own vinaigrette daily like tons of people do in Europe. That’s a great way to consuming beneficial oils with a good omega profile to help balance everything out.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2022 09:24     Subject: Are seed oils the worst culprit in our processed food addiction?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I found a video by a woman now living in Germany. Her eating habits have not changed since moving, still eating processed foods like sugar cereal and hot pockets, yet she lost 15 pounds.

She contributes it to the lack of additives and chemicals in their food compared to US food. She posted the box nutrition info for a sugar cereal found there and the US and the ingredients there was very short compared to the huge list on the US box.


I'm European, I went home last summer and the regular bread at the supermarket has a much shorter list of ingredients, with no gums, fillers, modified starches etc. Also milka has only natural ingredients, in US it has artificial ones.

I think most of the toxic processed “food” ingredients used here, are actually illegal in Europe - where chronic illnesses are not big business.

American Corporations control the FDA, imo. And NIH, for that matter.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2022 09:19     Subject: Re:Are seed oils the worst culprit in our processed food addiction?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Had no idea.

I thought canola oil was good for us. We were told it was the healthy oil the way we're now being told olive oil is healthy.


According to my dad’s cardiologist, coconut oil is the worst. She tells all her patients to avoid it in all forms.


They are doing studies now that prove the opposite

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/02/150209171317.htm

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/11/151118125325.htm

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/07/150722144640.htm

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/09/120902222459.htm

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/06/180620130008.htm



Anonymous
Post 01/29/2022 09:12     Subject: Re:Are seed oils the worst culprit in our processed food addiction?
Anonymous wrote:Had no idea.

I thought canola oil was good for us. We were told it was the healthy oil the way we're now being told olive oil is healthy.


Olive oil has been used since 3500 BC so they've always known it's safe. But it's $$$. The modern oils are an invention of the mechanization in agriculture. You cannot naturally squeeze oil out of canola. It's a modern absurdity.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2022 09:08     Subject: Are seed oils the worst culprit in our processed food addiction?
Anonymous wrote:Other than avocado oil, is there another good substitute for canola oil for baking? We use it maybe a couple times a month making things like brownies, and maybe once a year or so if I make homemade donuts or frybread.
I guess the bigger problem is all the packaged snacks my kids get every day at lunch.


Coconut.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2022 09:08     Subject: Are seed oils the worst culprit in our processed food addiction?
Anonymous wrote:I found a video by a woman now living in Germany. Her eating habits have not changed since moving, still eating processed foods like sugar cereal and hot pockets, yet she lost 15 pounds.

She contributes it to the lack of additives and chemicals in their food compared to US food. She posted the box nutrition info for a sugar cereal found there and the US and the ingredients there was very short compared to the huge list on the US box.


I'm European, I went home last summer and the regular bread at the supermarket has a much shorter list of ingredients, with no gums, fillers, modified starches etc. Also milka has only natural ingredients, in US it has artificial ones.